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Reply #270 –
Thanks for your work on this lods. Time to put the feet up for a while.

No need to start one next season. We'll be implementing phase 2 of Bolton's master plan, so we'll be aiming for 20 goals per match, just like Mark Williams in his PA coaching days.

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Reply #271 –
Quote from: Lods on
There is a chance we could lose both Casboult and Gibbs from that top 5.

You would hope McKay comes on for at least a 20+ total (hopefully more) but if we lose a few that's extra we have to make up.
To make finals we probably need about 280-290 goals in the regular season.

Every year recently, we've lost players from this category :-[

Seriously need to get in and develop goalkicking. Which I realize means quality mids as much as fwds.
I think Levi's improvement has been solid and is a credit to him and coaching staff. Young Jack and Charlie, and Pickett too, show promise. I hope we can develop them without over relying on them.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

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Reply #272 –
Quote from: Lods on
We slipped back below Fremantle in the final round for "Points For"

...to be dead last.

The only team we were above last year was that half an essendon side.

Not rocket science. If you have the worst forwardline in the league, and don't do anything to address it in the off-season, you are going to have the worst forwardline in the league again.

Can only hope we've learned our lesson in the upcoming off-season.

There is only so much we can expect from young Harry in 2018.
Curnowfides will come on further, but with or without Casboult, that is still not enough.

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Reply #273 –
Quote from: kruddler on
...to be dead last.

The only team we were above last year was that half an essendon side.

Not rocket science. If you have the worst forwardline in the league, and don't do anything to address it in the off-season, you are going to have the worst forwardline in the league again.

Can only hope we've learned our lesson in the upcoming off-season.

There is only so much we can expect from young Harry in 2018.
Curnowfides will come on further, but with or without Casboult, that is still not enough.

Yes - 18th in points for and 13th in points against. This speaks of a specific mindset / approach to footy, and a lopsided list. I can't see how we can continue to play this way next season, irrespective of what additions we make or don't make to our forwards. Bolton has to try something. We simply can't expect to restrict every team to 60-70 points.

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Reply #274 –
Quote from: kruddler on
...to be dead last.

The only team we were above last year was that half an essendon side.

Not rocket science. If you have the worst forwardline in the league, and don't do anything to address it in the off-season, you are going to have the worst forwardline in the league again.

Can only hope we've learned our lesson in the upcoming off-season.

There is only so much we can expect from young Harry in 2018.
Curnowfides will come on further, but with or without Casboult, that is still not enough.

Wont fix the forward line this trade or draft period with instant fixes....there isnt any available, its going to be 2019 and messiah Tom Lynch descending from the summit..well the Gold Coast in his case.
With the midfield and Forward line both needing work its probably the midfield that is the priority and this upcoming draft has little in the way of KP Forwards so you will be looking at State Leagues if you want
any Forward fixes and hoping you can snag the next Ben Brown and maybe a Ben Saunders who can give you something to aim at...

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Reply #275 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Wont fix the forward line this trade or draft period with instant fixes....there isnt any available, its going to be 2019 and messiah Tom Lynch descending from the summit..well the Gold Coast in his case.
With the midfield and Forward line both needing work its probably the midfield that is the priority and this upcoming draft has little in the way of KP Forwards so you will be looking at State Leagues if you want
any Forward fixes and hoping you can snag the next Ben Brown and maybe a Ben Saunders who can give you something to aim at...

I dont necessarily want an instant fix, but ignoring it completely wont fix it.

Been saying that KPPs take longer and we need to draft them BEFORE we do mids so that they come on at the same time. Yet....donuts.

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Reply #276 –
No doubt the list is still massively unbalanced at the moment and we are underweight KPF's, and medium sized goal kickers.

We have a plethora of small forwards [Pickett, Sumner, LeBois, Galluci, Fisher, Wright] but only one them has shown consistent goal scoring ability [Wright].

Our medium sized forward stocks are also very thin [SOJ, Lamb]. We then have 3 KPF's - Charlie, Kerr, McKay and 3 Forward/Ruck - Cas, Jaksch & Gorringe.

So that's 15 players in a squad of 44, which sounds about right. But in all likelihood 5 might go - Sumner, LeBois, Galluci, Jaksch & Gorringe. Given this, and the uncertainty around so many of the 10 remaining, you would think that we might need to recruit 7-8 forwards. Of these you would hope at least 2 have some level of AFL experience. It's still a huge turnover.

The sins of the 2010-2014 drafting disaster are really being felt now, and SOS still has a huge amount of work to do to establish a list that can actually challenge for the 8, and build an AFL quality forwardline.

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Reply #277 –
Quote from: sydneybluesfan on
No doubt the list is still massively unbalanced at the moment and we are underweight KPF's, and medium sized goal kickers.

We have a plethora of small forwards [Pickett, Sumner, LeBois, Galluci, Fisher, Wright] but only one them has shown consistent goal scoring ability [Wright].

Our medium sized forward stocks are also very thin [SOJ, Lamb]. We then have 3 KPF's - Charlie, Kerr, McKay and 3 Forward/Ruck - Cas, Jaksch & Gorringe.

So that's 15 players in a squad of 44, which sounds about right. But in all likelihood 5 might go - Sumner, LeBois, Galluci, Jaksch & Gorringe. Given this, and the uncertainty around so many of the 10 remaining, you would think that we might need to recruit 7-8 forwards. Of these you would hope at least 2 have some level of AFL experience. It's still a huge turnover.

The sins of the 2010-2014 drafting disaster are really being felt now, and SOS still has a huge amount of work to do to establish a list that can actually challenge for the 8, and build an AFL quality forwardline.

Agree with all of that...Fisher is a midfielder by trade as well...its slim pickings with what we have in terms of goalkickers......have the feeling the Weitering experiment will be back on next season
when all our tall  defenders are back.

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Reply #278 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Agree with all of that...Fisher is a midfielder by trade as well...its slim pickings with what we have in terms of goalkickers......have the feeling the Weitering experiment will be back on next season
when all our tall  defenders are back.

Think that could well happen EB. Not keen on it myself but depending on how things pan out we may not have too many other options.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #279 –
ACoS forward?
Finals, then 4 in a row!

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Reply #281 –
Quote from: Lods on

Why not
Give Williamson, Marchbank, Plowman and Macreadie some games forward too... otherwise we'll have some really good defenders in the VFL

Marchbank who is a strong mark I would try forward....Plowman and Macreadie are more traditional lock down types IMO ..
Williamson I would play on the wing and have him providing more forward entries with his nice kicking...a leftie on the wing is a must IMO..
I think Patrick Kerr has to be given games early next season...

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Reply #282 –
Maybe now that Liam has seen what it takes against buddy he can have another look forward next year.
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