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Offline kruddler

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #465 on: November 16, 2017, 07:00:18 PM »
Just quoting myself here... ;)
The regionality of the plebiscite seems to have had a big influence of our perceptions of how it would turn out.

I thought Kruddler was being wildly optimistic with some of his predictions but he was probably in one of those high '80+' Yes electorates.
My own electorate was about the 60-40.
The Labor folk I referenced above were from the Liverpool region where strong Labor electorates voted emphatically NO

I was in a 65% electorate as it turns out, but my 'network' i guess was spread far and wide across multiple electorates interestingly the next electorate a just a malcolm blight torpedo away and was 53%....but Melbourne was a clear 83.7%.




Offline PaulP

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #466 on: December 07, 2017, 06:51:04 PM »
2010, 2011 HAPPENED !
2014, 2015 HAPPENED !
2013 WAS NOT MERIT BASED !

Offline PaulP

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #467 on: December 07, 2017, 07:38:10 PM »
I wonder why Abbott abstained ?
2010, 2011 HAPPENED !
2014, 2015 HAPPENED !
2013 WAS NOT MERIT BASED !

Offline Bear

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #468 on: December 07, 2017, 08:16:48 PM »
I wonder why Abbott abstained ?

Because he is a weak pr!ck?

Offline PaulP

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #469 on: December 07, 2017, 08:31:53 PM »
Because he is a weak pr!ck?

One possibility among many, no doubt.
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2014, 2015 HAPPENED !
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Online DJC

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #470 on: December 07, 2017, 11:20:07 PM »
I wonder why Abbott abstained ?

The same reason the conservative Libs kept proposing amendments knowing that they would be voted down.

Apparently Abbott did have the main proponents of the bill in his office to help empty his bar ... and he did make a comment about his sister now being able to marry her partner.

I can't believe I'm defending Abbott.

Anyway it's done and dusted after far too much angst, unnecessary debate, time wasting and wasting public money. Perhaps our politicians might start thinking about important policy issues now  :-\
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be . . .

Offline sandsmere

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #471 on: December 08, 2017, 06:23:35 AM »


Anyway it's done and dusted after far too much angst, unnecessary debate, time wasting and wasting public money. Perhaps our politicians might start thinking about important policy issues now  :-\

Exactly.
The latest estimate is between 140 and 160 million dollars wasted.
The biggest non event in our parliaments history.
I spent most of my money on Women and grog.
The rest I just wasted.

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #472 on: December 08, 2017, 08:41:14 AM »
...........and now for the dual citizenship issue.  ::)

Offline Baggers

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #473 on: December 08, 2017, 08:45:08 AM »
The same reason the conservative Libs kept proposing amendments knowing that they would be voted down.

Apparently Abbott did have the main proponents of the bill in his office to help empty his bar ... and he did make a comment about his sister now being able to marry her partner.

I can't believe I'm defending Abbott.

Anyway it's done and dusted after far too much angst, unnecessary debate, time wasting and wasting public money. Perhaps our politicians might start thinking about important policy issues now  :-\

You nailed it right there, DJC Old Son. So many put through so much so unnecessarily at ridiculous cost - psychological, spiritual and financial cost that is.
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Offline Lods

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #474 on: December 08, 2017, 10:02:36 AM »
You nailed it right there, DJC Old Son. So many put through so much so unnecessarily at ridiculous cost - psychological, spiritual and financial cost that is.

I'm one who was very critical of the plebiscite (postal survey).
I still regard it as a waste of money given that a same sex marriage bill would have passed through parliament anyway.

Watching the debate yesterday though I do wonder whether some of the amendments proposed would have passed if there had been no emphatic plebiscite YES vote.

We still would have had the legislation but in maybe a slightly different form.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 10:35:35 AM by Lods »

Online DJC

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #475 on: December 08, 2017, 07:34:12 PM »
Apparently the ABS managed to conduct the same sex marriage opinion poll for $80M or thereabouts.  Well done ABS, but it's still $80M that could have been put to better use.
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be . . .

Offline kruddler

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #476 on: December 08, 2017, 09:21:24 PM »
I'm one who was very critical of the plebiscite (postal survey).
I still regard it as a waste of money given that a same sex marriage bill would have passed through parliament anyway.

Watching the debate yesterday though I do wonder whether some of the amendments proposed would have passed if there had been no emphatic plebiscite YES vote.


We still would have had the legislation but in maybe a slightly different form.

Yeah, i think that is the main thing to come from the vote, the finer details of it all.

Who can say what kind of bastardised version of SSM would have been passed if the general public had not have essentially forced their hand.



Offline madbluboy

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #477 on: December 09, 2017, 08:31:45 AM »
Apparently the ABS managed to conduct the same sex marriage opinion poll for $80M or thereabouts.  Well done ABS, but it's still $80M that could have been put to better use.

Agreed but at least we got something out of it not like the $1b spent on not building the East West link.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Offline Gointocarlton

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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #478 on: December 09, 2017, 11:42:36 AM »
Agreed but at least we got something out of it not like the $1b spent on not building the East West link.
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Re: SSM Plebiscite
« Reply #479 on: December 09, 2017, 07:59:33 PM »
Well, after all that..........

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/samesex-marriage-legalised-in-australia-as-parliament-passes-historic-law-20171206-h00cdj.html

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