Walker Injury Thread 2009

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:27 pm

sandsmere wrote:

Whoever did Cloke's shoulder did OK .
I hope thats where Walker is going .

Andrew answered to a reporter about his procedure, and that it would be the same type of surgery Cloke has had. Giving him a better chance for the shoulder socket to remain tight. Not sure if it involved intrusive grinding of bone. Andrew announced the name of the procedure, but heck how we remember what he said is any guess. Hope DOA comes here to give us a better understanding of how everything went and what they did (Surgeons).

Top Up Player Joined: Apr 10, 2009 Posts: 6

"Walker and Jamison see Surgeon"

Well at least their vision is still all good!

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:55 pm

Blue Walker aiming to return in eight weeks

Quote:

"This stupid right shoulder of mine, it just wouldn't stay in, but the surgeon has told me that you'd basically need a tractor to pull the thing out now," Walker told carltonfc.com.au.

An end to all his shoulder worries is VERY good news.

Quote:

"I'm only about two weeks off training again which is great. I'd like to be back playing in two or three weeks, but I know the doctors won't let me do that.

"Worst-case scenario it's probably eight weeks which is a lot sooner than was first thought."

Getting Walker back in 8 weeks would be a nice bonus to add to our late season charge up the ladder.

Quote:

"They try the cartilage anchoring first because you can get a full range of motion back, but this operation does restrict you a little bit which is why I haven't had it done before."

Walker, one of Carlton’s fittest players, began running just over three weeks after the operation and reported no major drop-off in fitness. In further good news he hasn't experienced any noticeable change in his range of motion in the joint either.

Bonus good news here. Not only does it seem relatively impossible to reinjure it, but there has been none of the expected negatives that go along with it.

cheers

About time Tex had some good news. Very Happy

Peter 'The Buzz' Bosustow Joined: Nov 01, 2006 Posts: 1438

lets just hope the 'no noticeable drop off' in his range of motion doesn't mean the Doc hasn't locked it down hard enough.

this is his last chance to get it right i would think.

Ern Henfry Joined: Oct 18, 2007 Posts: 4083

Bentley or Walker ? HHHmmmm let me think

This kid in this side now would be an absolute world beater and would certainly reduce our list of 6 ordinary (i think its only 3) by at least one..

Peter 'The Buzz' Bosustow Joined: Sep 13, 2005 Posts: 1499

Excellent news fromm Walkers surgeon stating 'you'd need a tractor to pull it out this time' referring to his shoulder. Greg Hoy is the best in the biz and did Shane Warne's finger (along with my bicep) so he has the runs ont he board in my book Laughing

. If his shoulder stay stable he will be an absolute bonus for us in the latter half of the season!!

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:39 pm

It's great that you would need a tractor to pull his shoulder out now, but in all honesty, and please, do not think I am being a wet blanket, but why didn't they have it operated on like that when he originally had shoulder trouble?
I know it restricts him, but he probably would have been out on the park a lot more if it was done this way originally. There is an old saying 'An imperfect plan on time is better than a perfect plan too late'.

Great news though, and he is coming at a time when we will need him- the later half of the season in the push for September.

On the other hand, maybe it isn't such a bad thing that we have had to wait a little longer than expected for Walks. If we are playing good footy now, I cannot wait to see what we are like with Walks back in! Very Happy

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:59 pm

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

It's great that you would need a tractor to pull his shoulder out now, but in all honesty, and please, do not think I am being a wet blanket, but why didn't they have it operated on like that when he originally had shoulder trouble?

Whats the rush? Why risk limiting his movement for the next 10 years on something that may get you the same results otherwise?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:00 pm

What is perhaps the most positive part of this is that he's still only 22 ! Only just about the enter the prime years of his career as a top level footballer. if he's had all his bad luck injury wise now & he can have a free run over the next 6-7 years...what sort of prospect will that be !

Much like Tarkyn Lockyer, had a horrible run with injury there for a couple of years, but once everything was dealt with, I don't reckon he's missed many games at all in the last 6-7 years & has become one of the most consistant playes going round.

Go AW !

cheers

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:00 pm

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

It's great that you would need a tractor to pull his shoulder out now, but in all honesty, and please, do not think I am being a wet blanket, but why didn't they have it operated on like that when he originally had shoulder trouble?

Whats the rush? Why risk limiting his movement for the next 10 years on something that may get you the same results otherwise?

Why have him re-injuring his shoulder time and time again, causing more pain?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:10 pm

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

It's great that you would need a tractor to pull his shoulder out now, but in all honesty, and please, do not think I am being a wet blanket, but why didn't they have it operated on like that when he originally had shoulder trouble?

Whats the rush? Why risk limiting his movement for the next 10 years on something that may get you the same results otherwise?

Why have him re-injuring his shoulder time and time again, causing more pain?

Because hindsight is 20-20 dumbar$e. Rolling Eyes

Obviously if they knew he would reinjure it they wouldn't have done it. They miscalculated, big woop.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:13 pm

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

It's great that you would need a tractor to pull his shoulder out now, but in all honesty, and please, do not think I am being a wet blanket, but why didn't they have it operated on like that when he originally had shoulder trouble?

Whats the rush? Why risk limiting his movement for the next 10 years on something that may get you the same results otherwise?

Why have him re-injuring his shoulder time and time again, causing more pain?

Because hindsight is 20-20 dumbar$e. Rolling Eyes

FWIW, there is absolutely NO NEED to resort to childish name-calling there, Kruddler. If I have a different opinion to yours, then so be it. No need to abuse me at all.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:25 pm

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

It's great that you would need a tractor to pull his shoulder out now, but in all honesty, and please, do not think I am being a wet blanket, but why didn't they have it operated on like that when he originally had shoulder trouble?

Whats the rush? Why risk limiting his movement for the next 10 years on something that may get you the same results otherwise?

Why have him re-injuring his shoulder time and time again, causing more pain?

Because hindsight is 20-20 dumbar$e. Rolling Eyes

FWIW, there is absolutely NO NEED to resort to childish name-calling there, Kruddler. If I have a different opinion to yours, then so be it. No need to abuse me at all.

If you are genuinly hurt by that comment (i seriously doubt it) than i apoligise.

But...ask a stupid question...

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:35 pm

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

It's great that you would need a tractor to pull his shoulder out now, but in all honesty, and please, do not think I am being a wet blanket, but why didn't they have it operated on like that when he originally had shoulder trouble?

Whats the rush? Why risk limiting his movement for the next 10 years on something that may get you the same results otherwise?

Why have him re-injuring his shoulder time and time again, causing more pain?

Because hindsight is 20-20 dumbar$e. Rolling Eyes

FWIW, there is absolutely NO NEED to resort to childish name-calling there, Kruddler. If I have a different opinion to yours, then so be it. No need to abuse me at all.

If you are genuinly hurt by that comment (i seriously doubt it) than i apoligise.

But...ask a stupid question...

Couldn't resist that last line, could you?
In saying that, you are virtually saying that any opinions that conflict with yours and/or the majority will not be accepted..
I suppose that is generally it anyway..

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:40 pm

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

In saying that, you are virtually saying that any opinions that conflict with yours and/or the majority will not be accepted..
I suppose that is generally it anyway..

No, what i am saying you conveniently left out of the quote.

Quote:

Obviously if they knew he would reinjure it they wouldn't have done it. They miscalculated, big woop.

Thats not my opinion, its fact.

If you are suggesting that they went through with it knowing that it would 100% happen again then you're insane.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:40 pm

Now, now kiddies, play nice! Razz

Hey guys, slightly different story on the club site. Great news for 1AW. Check this out too:

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/season2008/newsarticle/tabid/4311/newsid/76471/default.aspx

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:40 pm

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

It's great that you would need a tractor to pull his shoulder out now, but in all honesty, and please, do not think I am being a wet blanket, but why didn't they have it operated on like that when he originally had shoulder trouble?

Whats the rush? Why risk limiting his movement for the next 10 years on something that may get you the same results otherwise?

Why have him re-injuring his shoulder time and time again, causing more pain?

Because hindsight is 20-20 dumbar$e. Rolling Eyes

Obviously if they knew he would reinjure it they wouldn't have done it. They miscalculated, big woop.

Come on boys, be nice. Keep it civilized.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:51 pm

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

In saying that, you are virtually saying that any opinions that conflict with yours and/or the majority will not be accepted..
I suppose that is generally it anyway..

No, what i am saying you conveniently left out of the quote.

Quote:

Obviously if they knew he would reinjure it they wouldn't have done it. They miscalculated, big woop.

Thats not my opinion, its fact.

If you are suggesting that they went through with it knowing that it would 100% happen again then you're insane.

Not suggesting that at all...
Just wondering as to why the surgery wasn't done earlier to prevent anymore potential problems.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:58 pm

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

In saying that, you are virtually saying that any opinions that conflict with yours and/or the majority will not be accepted..
I suppose that is generally it anyway..

No, what i am saying you conveniently left out of the quote.

Quote:

Obviously if they knew he would reinjure it they wouldn't have done it. They miscalculated, big woop.

Thats not my opinion, its fact.

If you are suggesting that they went through with it knowing that it would 100% happen again then you're insane.

Not suggesting that at all...
Just wondering as to why the surgery wasn't done earlier to prevent anymore potential problems.

Daniel Chick. Name ring a bell?

Similar situation here.

a) Have surgery on a dodgy finger tendon and it should be alright and get you back playing within a certain amount of time....but there is a risk it wont help or may get reinjured.

OR

b) Cut off part of your finger and eliminate that problem for good.....but throw up a few more problems in the meantime.

Walker essentially went for the least dramatic, least amount of risk option....a)

Chick, went directly for the most dramatic option...b. An option that has changed his life forever.

Why would a 22yo kid take a dramatic risk that could change his life forever (limit the amount of things he can do with his shoulder) when he doesn't have too? Especially when there is another option available.

Furthermore, by trying option a first, you are still able to try option b later....not so in reverse.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:00 pm

Pardon my ignorance of these surgical matters but what is actually done to ensure that a tractor could not now pull it out?

I have visions of a huge stainless steel wrench being used to torque in a large rose joint implanted into the shoulder. Confused

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:01 pm

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

kruddler wrote:

Captain_Carlton25 wrote:

In saying that, you are virtually saying that any opinions that conflict with yours and/or the majority will not be accepted..
I suppose that is generally it anyway..

No, what i am saying you conveniently left out of the quote.

Quote:

Obviously if they knew he would reinjure it they wouldn't have done it. They miscalculated, big woop.

Thats not my opinion, its fact.

If you are suggesting that they went through with it knowing that it would 100% happen again then you're insane.

Not suggesting that at all...
Just wondering as to why the surgery wasn't done earlier to prevent anymore potential problems.

Surgery is always something that is easy to suggest in hindsight. I could have suggested it to Sexton a few years back.
However, there are always risks and unintended consequences. Surgeons often try all sorts of things before they commit to grabbing their knives (I've had plenty of experience to know about it).
The LAST bout of surgery, last year, was supposed to remove this issue by fixing up his shoulder. However, it didn't work out. I am not privy to know why. This time I hope the job was done better, so there is no chance of his shoulder popping out again.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:02 pm

Krudds, whats going on ya dumbarse? Nice win in BT too ya arrogant sod.
Wink

Anyway,
I hope he doesnt rush back, plenty of time, get it right, even play in the ressies a few games to make sure. I say this because I seriously think this is his last chance. Skill he does have, but if he aint on the park, not much point.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:55 pm

It's Friday. Relax and have a beer lads (and ladies?)

Great news for 1AW and DOA.

A fit and firing Walker could be the difference between winning and losing a final (fingers crossed we get there).

Good luck to young Andrew. Still reckon he'll be a better player than Cooney!

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:14 pm

flyboy77 wrote:

It's Friday. Relax and have a beer lads (and ladies?)

Great news for 1AW and DOA.

A fit and firing Walker could be the difference between winning and losing a final (fingers crossed we get there).

Good luck to young Andrew. Still reckon he'll be a better player than Cooney!

I hear you and agree fully. Just keep him away from any tractors or any other heavy farming machinery too. Can't wait to see him back on the park. Will definately add some grunt to the playing squad. Wink

Senior Player Joined: Oct 07, 2006 Posts: 314

We really could have done with his grunt against Freo tonight. He and Grigg will be massive returns for us when they are fit again. We could really do with their muscle around the ball. Great news that Walks could be back so soon.