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Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #90 –
Quote from: Baggers on
If BB is fair dinkum about only selecting blokes 'on form', then no way Casboult and LeBois would be included... likewise, Polson.  :o ::) :-\

I think we may be reaching the point of selecting blokes who are "available" Baggers.  ;)
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #91 –
Quote from: Baggers on
If BB is fair dinkum about only selecting blokes 'on form', then no way Casboult and LeBois would be included... likewise, Polson.  :o ::) :-\

Polson should be persevered with.  I reckon he shows a bit of spirit and running around in the NBs won’t help him to cope with AFL pace and pressure.

Bolts was quite expansive about selecting Harry McKay and form in the NBs wasn’t really a huge factor.  Consistency and effort on the training track was.  However, Fraser’s assessment of Casboult and LeBois was positive (not that he is ever overly critical of his players).

Perhaps Bolts would just prefer to see Levi taking ruck contests in preference to Kennedy, Cripps and Charlie ... I certainly would  :)
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #92 –
If LeBois gets a game, can I have one too?
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #93 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
I think we may be reaching the point of selecting blokes who are "available" Baggers.  ;)

Exactly what i was going to say.

Who is 'available' and NOT included in the 25 man squad? Maybe a handful??

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #94 –
Quote from: Professer E on
If LeBois gets a game, can I have one too?
To say we are due for a debutant to tear it up in a game is an understatement. I hope LeBois does but I doubt he will. You never know, he is playing for his AFL life I would have thought. Good luck if you get in the 22.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #95 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
To say we are due for a debutant to tear it up in a game is an understatement. I hope The Prof does but I doubt he will. You never know, he is playing for his AFL life I would have thought. Good luck if you get in the 22.

Edited for the Professor

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #96 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
To say we are due for a debutant to tear it up in a game is an understatement. I hope LeBois does but I doubt he will. You never know, he is playing for his AFL life I would have thought. Good luck if you get in the 22.

Think Le Bois has only just returned from a long injury break. Hard to see him playing unless they're just looking to give him a taste of senior experience.

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #97 –
Quote from: laj on
Think Le Bois has only just returned from a long injury break. Hard to see him playing unless they're just looking to give him a taste of senior experience.

A last ditch effort to see if he demands a spot on the list next year.

Which he doesn't....and he won't get a game anyway.

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #98 –
He's played about eight VFL games in two years,  and probably finished maybe 4 of those uninjured.   He won't play.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #99 –
Quote from: Professer E on
He's played about eight VFL games in two years,  and probably finished maybe 4 of those uninjured.   He won't play.

Agree....ins will be Lobbe and Wright IMO......
LeBois has done nothing to earn a spot...can remember when Gary Buckenara lauded him as the best in his draft year.......been disappointing with injury and form.

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #100 –
CARLTON
B: Kade Simpson, Jacob Weitering, Matt Shaw
HB: Dale Thomas, Liam Jones, Ed Curnow
C: Caleb Marchbank, Patrick Cripps, Lochie O'Brien
HF: Cameron Polson, Charlie Curnow, Zac Fisher
F: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Matthew Kennedy, Jarrod Pickett
R: Harry McKay, Marc Murphy, Paddy Dow
Int: Levi Casboult, Jarrod Garlett, Nick Graham, Kym Lebois, Matthew Lobbe, Sam Rowe, Jack Silvagni, Matthew Wright (Four to be omitted)

IN: Jacob Weitering, Levi Casboult, Nick Graham, Kym Lebois, Matthew Lobbe, Matthew Wright

OUT: Matthew Kreuzer (Managed), Jed Lamb (Suspension)

NEW: Kym Lebois, Matthew Lobbe

I'm surprised to be LeBois in. Only once has he had more than 10 possessions in a VFL game. The Match Committee must see more in him than I have seen so far.
I only saw him once in his draft year and he wasn't bad against other kids. But he isn't as quick as he thinks he is. He gets out-bodied far too easily and he doesn't get the ball enough for me. He can kick a goal out of nowhere.

I think Lobbe has to play: we need a specialist ruckman. I think I would prefer de Koning, but he is only just coming back from injury anyway.
I don't think Levi has done enough to get a recall yet, but the MC may think we need his strength and his ability to do some ruck work.
We are really at rock bottom with this side.

HAWTHORN
B: Ryan Burton, James Frawley, Ben Stratton
HB: Kaiden Brand, Jack Gunston, Blake Hardwick
C: Ricky Henderson, Tom Mitchell, Isaac Smith
HF: Jarman Impey, Ryan Schoenmakers, Harry Morrison
F: Luke Breust, Jarryd Roughead, Paul Puopolo
R: Jonathon Ceglar, Daniel Howe, Liam Shiels
Int: Teia Miles, James Worpel, Jaeger O'Meara, Brendan Whitecross, Marc Pittonet, Taylor Duryea, Conor Glass, Jonathan O'Rourke (Four to be omitted)

IN: Kaiden Brand, Ryan Schoenmakers, James Worpel, Marc Pittonet, Conor Glass, Jonathan O'Rourke

OUT: Tim O'Brien (Omitted), James Sicily (Injured)

If we had some guys available, instead of a Northern Blues selection, I'd be confident of beating this mob. This side does not look impressive, especially in defence. But we are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Ceglar usually plays well against us, but his form has not been so good. So maybe there is some hope.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #101 –
Have we ever selected a smaller forward line?

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #102 –
Team looks 1000% better when Marchbank is on the wing, even though there is no way the rest of the team lines up like that!

There are a few of things I want to see this week;

Casboult stays out of McKay's way.
McKay plays more like Ben Brown than Eddie Betts.
Charlie isn't killed by Levi jumping into his back.
Lobbe shows he isn't done.
Weitering and Jones taking some marks.
SPS continues his improvement.
The Force Awakens!

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #103 –
Sunday Etihad, dry ideal conditions 15°C.

Dawks have named a small mobile F50, best have our D50 marking faces on!
The Force Awakens!