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Title: Movie & TV thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 12, 2021, 08:13:05 pm
I don't know if you're into sci-fi, K, but if you or anyone could recommend a good sci-fi from Netflix it'd be much appreciated. Not into hairy monsters, green blood, exploding heads (though loved Mars Attacks), fancy killing devices, death and killing but rather a sci-fi with at least a modicum of intelligence (loved 2001, Contact, Solaris (both versions), interstellar...).

@Baggers
Not a lot on Netflix at the moment. Better ones on Stan.

Tau is probably the best one i've come across on Netflix, but again, better ones on Stan.

I'd try and track down Ex Machina if you haven't seen that one. Not sure what platform its on at the moment. EDIT: Its on Stan

I've also watched I Am Mother and Circle. Nothing like 2001 level, but again, Netflix is lacking in that area IMO.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: LP on April 13, 2021, 08:42:17 am
Netflix
Star Trek Discover (Better than I expected)
Blade Runner 2049
The Midnight Sky
Lost in Space (Also better than expected.)
Passengers

Not Netflix
War of the Worlds (SBS On Demand)
Expanse (Use to be Netflix but now Amazon.)
Counterpart (Amazon)
Mandalorian (Disney +)
The Orville (SBS, lighted hearted Star Trek spin-off.)
Raised by Wolves(Binge)

Not SciFi Netflix
Apollo11
The Good Liar
Dead to Me
Grace and Frankie
After Life
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on April 13, 2021, 09:31:00 am
@Baggers
Not a lot on Netflix at the moment. Better ones on Stan.

Tau is probably the best one i've come across on Netflix, but again, better ones on Stan.

I'd try and track down Ex Machina if you haven't seen that one. Not sure what platform its on at the moment. EDIT: Its on Stan

I've also watched I Am Mother and Circle. Nothing like 2001 level, but again, Netflix is lacking in that area IMO.

Thank you, K. Much appreciated... been weighing up for some time now whether to get Stan, seems like the go.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: LP on April 13, 2021, 10:04:18 am
Thank you, K. Much appreciated... been weighing up for some time now whether to get Stan, seems like the go.
If you prefer movies, Disney+ is also good value as you now get Star included, which is basically the full Fox Studio catalogue.

Lately we've also used Apple+, often you can view of a movie quiet cheaply without having a subscription, just $3-$5 which is a cheap night's entertainment.

It pays not to be loyal to these services, there is generally no penalty to start and stop a subscription, when they have nothing for you to watch suspend it.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: madbluboy on April 13, 2021, 10:51:23 am
After the brilliant Interstellar I was excited to watch Ad Astra but sadly like the vaccine it was a complete flop.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Thryleon on April 13, 2021, 11:42:36 am
After the brilliant Interstellar I was excited to watch Ad Astra but sadly like the vaccine it was a complete flop.

Interstellar might be the best film I've seen made in years from a science fiction perspective.

Ive seen a few that are cheesy flops.  Ad astra wasn't so bad, it could have been great but it was very ordinary, but I did like the concepts it touched on.  I thought it touched on some really deep concepts at a shallow level.

The Martian was cool.

I also liked a movie with the bloke from avatar about colonising Neptune and how we experiment with DNA.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: DJC on April 13, 2021, 12:01:28 pm
If you’re interested in a mildly sci-fi, Nordic noir series, have a go at “Beforeigners” on SBS on demand.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 13, 2021, 01:00:53 pm
Thank you, K. Much appreciated... been weighing up for some time now whether to get Stan, seems like the go.
You can usually sign up for a free trial of 2 weeks for most of the streaming services.
It's worth it, binge what you can and cancel it.
Do that over the various platforms and you'll find 100s of new movies that cost you nothing.

I like almost all types of movies and go through stages of what I'll watch. In terms of sci-fi, I tend to stay away from the big budget stuff as it's usually dumbed down and incorrect in terms of its science, but there are exceptions.

Mostly I enjoy little Indie Scifi flicks....a lot of them do have a horror/killing edge to them, but I always have an eye to horror so that suits.

A favourite niche genre is 'enclosed room(s)' films. Circle which I mentioned before is one. Cube is a classic and it's 2 sequels are ok too. There was one called Tangent which was pretty interesting, on disney+ I think, or Amazon prime. Exam is another one, but less Sci fi. Fermat's room...the list goes on.

Anyway, see how you go.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Milhanna13 on April 14, 2021, 04:04:23 pm

Not SciFi Netflix
Apollo11
The Good Liar
Dead to Me
Grace and Frankie
After Life

Just dont watch After Life by yourself, if you are a bit flat.........  funny as fck in some parts, but a tad depressing in others
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: cookie2 on April 14, 2021, 04:36:32 pm
Watching "Sleepers" on SBS OD at the moment. Worthwhile imo, if you don't mind subtitles. Set in Czechoslovakia during the Cold War.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 14, 2021, 04:43:09 pm
Bit like scented gardens for the blind cookie

Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on April 14, 2021, 05:15:10 pm
You can usually sign up for a free trial of 2 weeks for most of the streaming services.
It's worth it, binge what you can and cancel it.
Do that over the various platforms and you'll find 100s of new movies that cost you nothing.

I like almost all types of movies and go through stages of what I'll watch. In terms of sci-fi, I tend to stay away from the big budget stuff as it's usually dumbed down and incorrect in terms of its science, but there are exceptions.

Mostly I enjoy little Indie Scifi flicks....a lot of them do have a horror/killing edge to them, but I always have an eye to horror so that suits.

A favourite niche genre is 'enclosed room(s)' films. Circle which I mentioned before is one. Cube is a classic and it's 2 sequels are ok too. There was one called Tangent which was pretty interesting, on disney+ I think, or Amazon prime. Exam is another one, but less Sci fi. Fermat's room...the list goes on.

Anyway, see how you go.


Huge thanks for going to this trouble, K. Seems our tastes are similar and equally eclectic. Agree re big budget sci fi.

Love a good comedy as well, though the Yank formulaic style is really tired, however I really enjoyed, on Netflix, The Kaminsky Method and Last Vegas.  Also loved Derek (Ricky J) and Paul.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 14, 2021, 06:10:00 pm


Not SciFi Netflix
Apollo11
The Good Liar
Dead to Me
Grace and Frankie
After Life
Pretty funny that one. During lock down, Mrs G2C got into Schitt's Creek, not half bad.
If you like good British stuff (crime/cop related):
Marcella
Body Guard
Broadchurch (I think this is on SBS on demand)
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Klingus on April 14, 2021, 09:03:12 pm
Watch Sunshine 👍. Great movie. Not sure if you can stream it though...
Off topic..., anti-virus software come with VPNs nowdays  😉
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Mav on April 14, 2021, 10:03:56 pm
The Orville (SBS, lighted hearted Star Trek spin-off.)
Rip-off. Definitely not a spin-off.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: cookie2 on April 15, 2021, 06:38:34 am
Bit like scented gardens for the blind cookie

Is that the book by Janet Frame CC? I haven't read it.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 15, 2021, 09:10:34 am
Actually, it's the title of the first album ever released by Dragon in NZ when they were in their infancy and before they emigrated to OZ and hit it big @cookie2 .
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: cookie2 on April 15, 2021, 09:23:02 am
I don't remember it but it's a good title!

Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 15, 2021, 10:30:27 am
It's abysmal .... 
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on April 15, 2021, 10:48:01 am
Darkness was an interesting track from that album... sounded like they didn't know whether to be Genesis, Jethro Tull, Hocus Pocus or Boston! Their first two albums were a far cry from their early hits here in Oz, 'This Time' & 'Sunshine.'
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: cookie2 on April 15, 2021, 10:51:41 am
It's abysmal ....

So you didn't like "The Sleepers"?  :o
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 15, 2021, 10:59:33 am
Darkness was an interesting track from that album... sounded like they didn't know whether to be Genesis, Jethro Tull, Hocus Pocus or Boston! Their first two albums were a far cry from their early hits here in Oz, 'This Time' & 'Sunshine.'

Precisely .... no cohesion.  But at their very best, they were amazing.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 15, 2021, 04:26:13 pm
We are not even 2 pages into this movie thread and half of it is talking about music.  :-[
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Lods on April 15, 2021, 07:05:28 pm
Is anyone else game enough to admit they really enjoyed Kevin Costner's "The Postman"
I did ;D
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on April 15, 2021, 07:29:04 pm
You can usually sign up for a free trial of 2 weeks for most of the streaming services.
It's worth it, binge what you can and cancel it.
Do that over the various platforms and you'll find 100s of new movies that cost you nothing.

I like almost all types of movies and go through stages of what I'll watch. In terms of sci-fi, I tend to stay away from the big budget stuff as it's usually dumbed down and incorrect in terms of its science, but there are exceptions.

Mostly I enjoy little Indie Scifi flicks....a lot of them do have a horror/killing edge to them, but I always have an eye to horror so that suits.

A favourite niche genre is 'enclosed room(s)' films. Circle which I mentioned before is one. Cube is a classic and it's 2 sequels are ok too. There was one called Tangent which was pretty interesting, on disney+ I think, or Amazon prime. Exam is another one, but less Sci fi. Fermat's room...the list goes on.

Anyway, see how you go.


Done. Signed up with Stan's free 30 day thing today, looked through their movies - some good stuff. Especially like the look of the World Movies list...

Any recommendations? Love a good psychological thriller. (no vampires or zombies please  ::) )
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 15, 2021, 07:50:33 pm
Done. Signed up with Stan's free 30 day thing today, looked through their movies - some good stuff. Especially like the look of the World Movies list...

Any recommendations? Love a good psychological thriller. (no vampires or zombies please  ::) )
Start with Ex Machina.....underrated.
Looper as well.

Not sure if you've seen it, but Predestination (i think thats on Netflix) is worth a watch.

Again, not sure whats on what right now but have a look at anything Brit Marling has done. Start with 'The Sound of my Voice', East.....tv series the OA. etc.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 15, 2021, 08:04:02 pm
Is anyone else game enough to admit they really enjoyed Kevin Costner's "The Postman"
I did ;D

Loved it @Lods .... great film !!  Many Costner films are.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Lods on April 15, 2021, 08:37:24 pm
Loved it @Lods .... great film !!  Many Costner films are.

It's funny.
There was a Facebook post I saw about a week back that was basically "Name a film that most folks regard as a stinker but you really liked"...and "The Postman" got quite a few mentions.
If you like a Sports relevant film "Draft Day" is a good watch.
Costner leaves Silvagni for dead. ;D
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 15, 2021, 08:49:38 pm
It's a must see ... and for me, own
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 15, 2021, 09:06:59 pm
It's funny.
There was a Facebook post I saw about a week back that was basically "Name a film that most folks regard as a stinker but you really liked"...and "The Postman" got quite a few mentions.
If you like a Sports relevant film "Draft Day" is a good watch.
Costner leaves Silvagni for dead. ;D
I generally stay clear of Costner films.

I like 2.
Draft Day is definitely one of them.
Tin Cup is the other one.

Never seen the Postman......and don't really want too. Not my cup of tea.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 15, 2021, 09:31:51 pm
You never saw JFK?
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Professer E on April 16, 2021, 07:32:18 am
Bubbahotep. Now there's one that won't get a Palm d'Or.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 16, 2021, 08:05:38 am
You never saw JFK?
Nope
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on April 16, 2021, 08:26:00 am
Start with Ex Machina.....underrated.
Looper as well.

Not sure if you've seen it, but Predestination (i think thats on Netflix) is worth a watch.

Again, not sure whats on what right now but have a look at anything Brit Marling has done. Start with 'The Sound of my Voice', East.....tv series the OA. etc.


Thank you, K.

Loved Predestination. Great concept and really, really well acted. Will start checking out the others on the w/e.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 16, 2021, 08:47:10 am
Nope

Donald Sutherland gave the best performance by any supporting actor in any film I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on April 16, 2021, 10:01:20 am
Donald Sutherland gave the best performance by any supporting actor in any film I've ever seen.

Loved Donald S in JFK... his 2nd best performance, come on CC... He made the role of Sgt Oddball in Kelly's Heroes an icon!
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Milhanna13 on April 16, 2021, 10:58:29 am
I generally stay clear of Costner films.

I like 2.
Draft Day is definitely one of them.
Tin Cup is the other one.

Never seen the Postman......and don't really want too. Not my cup of tea.

Tin Cup is fantastic
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 16, 2021, 11:29:39 am
.... and dances with wolves of course
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 16, 2021, 12:09:11 pm
.... and dances with wolves of course
The Untouchables was a good movie back in the day.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Lods on April 16, 2021, 04:51:20 pm
I think it's a very personal thing, what appeals to each of us....and while we're all different, in this thread we'll find others with similar tastes.
I'm not real fussed about modern/crime/drug movies.
Although the Godfather (well 1 & 2) are amongst my favourites.

My favourite movie of all time is probably John Wayne's 'The Searchers'.
...and I guess that's why the Costner movies have an appeal.
It' s that expansive, storytelling I enjoy.

.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 16, 2021, 05:19:41 pm
The Untouchables was a good movie back in the day.
Sean Connery nails that movie.

....but that hasn't aged well.

Nobody wants to mention Waterworld?  >:D
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Lods on April 16, 2021, 05:36:19 pm
Nobody wants to mention Waterworld?  >:D

It's OK...
Probably a poor man's Mad Max.
The problem with it was the cost and pre publicity was such that the film was 'talked down' as a box-office flop before it even got going.
It's a bit like the Postman.
It appeals to some.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 16, 2021, 05:45:23 pm
Field of dreams was good on first viewing too.

....but i think thats it. The more you watch his movies (for me at least) the less interesting they become. There is no 'repeat viewing excitement' from majority of his movies for me.

I can watch a Tarantino movie a 100 times.....Kubrik movies 1000 times....and still get something out of it.
I'll watch some movies for specific actors/actresses.....repeat viewings and all....

Costner....barely gets a 2nd viewing. When it does, its almost always disappointing.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 16, 2021, 05:47:03 pm
My favourite movie of all time is probably John Wayne's 'The Searchers'.

Ain't it strange ... I hated it.  "The cowboys" I thought was his best.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Lods on April 16, 2021, 06:02:01 pm
Ain't it strange ... I hated it.  "The cowboys" I thought was his best.

Yep...its like we said before, some we'll find common appeal others we'll disagree upon.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: rocky on April 16, 2021, 08:05:01 pm
Boy, I like this thread. I often ask people their suck-in movie. This is not necessarily their favourite but the one that comes on and keeps you sucked in until the end. Even though you've watched it a zillion times. For me it's Shawshank. I will deliberately avoid the channel it's on for fear of being "sucked in". Love it.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: PaulP on April 16, 2021, 08:16:46 pm
...............I often ask people their suck-in movie. This is not necessarily their favourite but the one that comes on and keeps you sucked in until the end. Even though you've watched it a zillion times. For me it's Shawshank. I will deliberately avoid the channel it's on for fear of being "sucked in". Love it.

I was the same. Having now watched it about 15 times, I think I've finally expunged it from my system.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 16, 2021, 08:17:43 pm
Boy, I like this thread. I often ask people their suck-in movie. This is not necessarily their favourite but the one that comes on and keeps you sucked in until the end. Even though you've watched it a zillion times. For me it's Shawshank. I will deliberately avoid the channel it's on for fear of being "sucked in". Love it.

Shawshank is an easy 'out'.

I'll give you a few....
Seven
Silence of the Lambs
Beverly Hills Cop trilogy (Eddie is so good)
and a more leftfield one....
Before Sunrise.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 16, 2021, 08:54:57 pm
Boy, I like this thread. I often ask people their suck-in movie. This is not necessarily their favourite but the one that comes on and keeps you sucked in until the end. Even though you've watched it a zillion times. For me it's Shawshank. I will deliberately avoid the channel it's on for fear of being "sucked in". Love it.
For me the sucked in movies are:
All the Jason Bourne movies
All the Daniel Craig Bond Movies
Stepbrothers
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 16, 2021, 09:08:23 pm
Boy, I like this thread. I often ask people their suck-in movie. This is not necessarily their favourite but the one that comes on and keeps you sucked in until the end. Even though you've watched it a zillion times. For me it's Shawshank. I will deliberately avoid the channel it's on for fear of being "sucked in". Love it.

The Magnificent Seven .... and James Coburn ("Brit") with his 11 lines in the entire film.

Musta seen it 30 times. 
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Milhanna13 on April 16, 2021, 09:10:16 pm
For me the sucked in movies are:
All the Jason Bourne movies
All the Daniel Craig Bond Movies
Stepbrothers

Ha!  One of these movies is not like the others!!  (And is also from planet bullsht, in the galaxy of this sucks camel ds)
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 16, 2021, 09:16:17 pm
I teabagged your drum set. Your drum set is a whore!
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 16, 2021, 09:53:01 pm
Ha!  One of these movies is not like the others!!  (And is also from planet bullsht, in the galaxy of this sucks camel ds)
Did we just become best friends?
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 21, 2021, 05:12:24 pm
Quote
On another note entirely, K. Loved El Machina. Clever. Great script, mood/setting and acting... and refreshing and bold to have the 3 main characters flawed in each of their own ways but no-one really the out-and-out bad guy... a la Hollywood. Even Nathan, a challenging character, had sharp, honest and poignant viewpoints.
@Baggers

Glad you liked it.

I came across it without really knowing anything about it.

I usually search lists for "best ***** movies of 2019" etc and download/save a heap of movies.....every now and then i go through and watch one without remembering why i got it. This was one of the best 'little finds' i've found from that method.

If you liked that one there is a movie called Morgan that is similar, but not quite up to the same standard....but interesting at least.

Oh....and you must watch Black Mirror, on netflix. Its a series (there is an interactive movie which is ok, but not as good as the series)
Each episode is completely unique. A basic premise is looking at a new form of technology that is almost within grasp of us today....and taking it down a path with unintended consequences. Eye opening and the best thing i've seen since the X-Files.
Some episodes can be a bit much....but stick with it.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Lods on April 21, 2021, 05:20:26 pm
@Baggers

Glad you liked it.

I came across it without really knowing anything about it.

I usually search lists for "best ***** movies of 2019" etc and download/save a heap of movies.....every now and then i go through and watch one without remembering why i got it. This was one of the best 'little finds' i've found from that method.

If you liked that one there is a movie called Morgan that is similar, but not quite up to the same standard....but interesting at least.

Oh....and you must watch Black Mirror, on netflix. Its a series (there is an interactive movie which is ok, but not as good as the series)
Each episode is completely unique. A basic premise is looking at a new form of technology that is almost within grasp of us today....and taking it down a path with unintended consequences. Eye opening and the best thing i've seen since the X-Files.
Some episodes can be a bit much....but stick with it.

Yep
Black Mirror is very good and different...but you're right, there is that occasional episode that doesn't quite come up to the standard of the others.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on April 21, 2021, 06:05:37 pm
@Baggers

Glad you liked it.

I came across it without really knowing anything about it.

I usually search lists for "best ***** movies of 2019" etc and download/save a heap of movies.....every now and then i go through and watch one without remembering why i got it. This was one of the best 'little finds' i've found from that method.

If you liked that one there is a movie called Morgan that is similar, but not quite up to the same standard....but interesting at least.

Oh....and you must watch Black Mirror, on netflix. Its a series (there is an interactive movie which is ok, but not as good as the series)
Each episode is completely unique. A basic premise is looking at a new form of technology that is almost within grasp of us today....and taking it down a path with unintended consequences. Eye opening and the best thing i've seen since the X-Files.
Some episodes can be a bit much....but stick with it.

Huge thanks... Black Mirror starts tonight!

What did you think of Edge of Tomorrow? I loved the concept, but the violence was over the top.

Principal LODS, have you seen Edge of Tomorrow?

I've got the original (B/W) Outer Limits and Twilight Zone on DVD... great to bring out every now and then. Rod Serling was brilliant and something of a social activist, he learned early in his writing career that using sci fi to get across social messages got him into less strife with the censors! Likewise with the original Star Trek series from Gene Roddenberry.

If you can handle old b/w Twilight Zone episodes, Time Element is pretty good and available on YouTube.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Lods on April 21, 2021, 06:12:38 pm
Principal LODS, have you seen Edge of Tomorrow?

Yep.
Quite enjoy those time shift type shows
Watching 'Timeless' on Amazon at the moment.
Time travel.
Lot's of references to significant events and characters in American History.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 21, 2021, 06:14:40 pm
I haven't watched Edge of Tomorrow. It has Tom Cruise in it.
I like him a lot less than Kevin Costner.

I like him in Cocktail. He's good in Rain Man. I only watched Top Gun from start to finish for the first time 2 years ago. I'll put up with him in Eyes Wide Shut because its Kubrick.....but i won't watch much else with him in it.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on April 21, 2021, 06:24:05 pm
I haven't watched Edge of Tomorrow. It has Tom Cruise in it.
I like him a lot less than Kevin Costner.

I like him in Cocktail. He's good in Rain Man. I only watched Top Gun from start to finish for the first time 2 years ago. I'll put up with him in Eyes Wide Shut because its Kubrick.....but i won't watch much else with him in it.

Hey, K, I am on the same page re Cruise... absolute Scientology bozo and if he was any further up himself, he'd turn inside out. He's the reason I resisted Edge of Tomorrow for so long but the story and concept become the main characters after a while.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 21, 2021, 06:36:57 pm
Hey, K, I am on the same page re Cruise... absolute Scientology bozo and if he was any further up himself, he'd turn inside out. He's the reason I resisted Edge of Tomorrow for so long but the story and concept become the main characters after a while.
I'll get to it one day....but its not near the top of my list at this stage.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: rocky on April 21, 2021, 07:11:39 pm
While I also don't get the whole scientology thing with Tom he has made some exceptionally good movies over the years
Liked
American Made
Jerry Maguire (unlucky not to get the best actor academy award on this one and The English Patient beats it for best picture? Pffft)
A Few Good Men
Born On The Fourth Of July
The Firm

And for pure entertainment, All the Mission Impossible and Jack Reachers
All very watchable.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 21, 2021, 07:22:01 pm
While I also don't get the whole scientology thing with Tom he has made some exceptionally good movies over the years
Liked
American Made
Jerry Maguire (unlucky not to get the best actor academy award on this one and The English Patient beats it for best picture? Pffft)
A Few Good Men
Born On The Fourth Of July

The Firm

And for pure entertainment, All the Mission Impossible and Jack Reachers
All very watchable.


Can't do it.
Seen the 3 in bold, thats it.
None of the MI's or JR's....

I'm largely turned off by your typical hollywood movies. Its all too predictable, over the top, unrealistic etc. Tom Cruise epitomises hollywood for mine.

How many little indie films has he made? Its always bigger, better, faster, stronger..... *yawn*
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 21, 2021, 07:34:07 pm
@Baggers
If you like your sci fi, more light hearted and sitcom-y, watch a couple episodes of Red Dwarf on Stan. Started in the 80's, had 8 seasons or so....then a decade+ long break, then came back....went away....came back. 12 seasons all up.

Despite all the levity in the show, the concepts would be very much at home in a Star Trek episode.
First season is a bit slow, but it picks up. Short seasons too.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on April 21, 2021, 07:39:14 pm
Another movie that is on Stan for ya......Splice.

Bit different....might not be your cup of tea. But its well done and could be a Black Mirror episode the way it plays out.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on April 21, 2021, 08:15:47 pm
@Baggers
If you like your sci fi, more light hearted and sitcom-y, watch a couple episodes of Red Dwarf on Stan. Started in the 80's, had 8 seasons or so....then a decade+ long break, then came back....went away....came back. 12 seasons all up.

Despite all the levity in the show, the concepts would be very much at home in a Star Trek episode.
First season is a bit slow, but it picks up. Short seasons too.

Long time fan of Red Dwarf. Love it.

Splice is now on the list. Thank you, K.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on April 21, 2021, 08:18:24 pm
Denzel Washington.  The Equalizers 1 and 2.  Brilliant.

V for Vendetta (Hugo Weaving) just unbelievable
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 19, 2021, 08:38:52 am
Not a movie but a ripper Aussie series on Fox is Mr Inbetween. Very dark and funny at the same time, its the story of a Sydney based hitman. Main character is a no name guy, supported by many well known actors across many episodes. Very easy to watch as episodes are 25min long. Give it crack.
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Post by: Lods on June 19, 2021, 09:51:07 am
Again not movies....
They won't be for everyone's taste but I'm quite partial to some of the Scandanavian TV series of recent times.
Ragnarok (fantasy about Norse Gods and giants in human form) and Occupied (threatened Russian invasion and influence of Norway combined with a strong environmental, energy theme).
The newest one Katla (about a volcano with a bit of a supernatural aspect) looks like it could be a good one too.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on June 19, 2021, 10:05:19 am
Long time fan of Red Dwarf. Love it.

Splice is now on the list. Thank you, K.
Any luck baggers?
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on June 19, 2021, 10:49:34 am
Any luck baggers?

Thank you, K. Great tip... loved it!!!

I'm going to give Tenet a watch tonight (after the game... or earlier if it's looking like a disaster!!). Have you seen it yet? Just released on Netflix.
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Post by: rocky on June 19, 2021, 12:39:23 pm
I'm going to give Tenet a watch tonight (after the game... or earlier if it's looking like a disaster!!). Have you seen it yet? Just released on Netflix.
Watched this one this week. Boy, is it a mind-f$%k or what. Will need to give it another go at some stage. Would suggest watching it without any alcohol influence beforehand.
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Post by: kruddler on June 19, 2021, 04:30:41 pm
Thank you, K. Great tip... loved it!!!

I'm going to give Tenet a watch tonight (after the game... or earlier if it's looking like a disaster!!). Have you seen it yet? Just released on Netflix.
Noticed it was on netflix. Haven't seen it yet.

Glad you enjoyed it.

It can be a bit divisive....as you probably realise.

If you can track it down, watch Cube. College film that is done really well with a somewhat simple plot. Has 2 sequels that are fair too.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on June 21, 2021, 07:06:16 pm
Another movie that is on Stan for ya......Splice.

Bit different....might not be your cup of tea. But its well done and could be a Black Mirror episode the way it plays out.

To add a little more to why I liked Splice - DNA intervention movies, if well acted and even a little plausible, really get me in. And Splice was all of those. The journey that Dren took them on, morally and scientifically, was really well done. Great imagination from the creator/writer. I wrote a novel with a few vaguely similar concepts and all things being equal, it will come out next year... my editor recommended turning it into a screenplay... so I did a screenplay intensive course a few years back - such a different medium. Can't wait to get into it once finishing my present project.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 21, 2021, 07:11:54 pm
To add a little more to why I liked Splice - DNA intervention movies, if well acted and even a little plausible, really get me in. And Splice was all of those. The journey that Dren took them on, morally and scientifically, was really well done. Great imagination from the creator/writer. I wrote a novel with a few vaguely similar concepts and all things being equal, it will come out next year... my editor recommended turning it into a screenplay... so I did a screenplay intensive course a few years back - such a different medium. Can't wait to get into it once finishing my present project.
Well done Baggers Ol Boy, hope its a winner for you.
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Post by: Baggers on June 21, 2021, 07:17:23 pm
Well done Baggers Ol Boy, hope its a winner for you.

Thank you, GTC. A labour of love! Would have had the present project -- biblical supernatural thriller -- finished last year only good old PTSD floored me for a few months. Not complaining, just the way it is... on that, as an aside, helping out the RSL with the veterans suicide prevention task force - another passion.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on June 21, 2021, 07:18:12 pm
To add a little more to why I liked Splice - DNA intervention movies, if well acted and even a little plausible, really get me in. And Splice was all of those. The journey that Dren took them on, morally and scientifically, was really well done. Great imagination from the creator/writer. I wrote a novel with a few vaguely similar concepts and all things being equal, it will come out next year... my editor recommended turning it into a screenplay... so I did a screenplay intensive course a few years back - such a different medium. Can't wait to get into it once finishing my present project.
OK.
Congrats on the novel.

Yeah, i first watched Splice simply for the director, Vincenzo Natali. Saw Splice as part of MIFF and loved it.
Saw it a couple of times since then, and it doesn't have quite the same impact.....but first viewing blew me away.

His movies are worth watching, especially those he has written and directed. Splice, Cube, Nothing.....and i haven't seen his latest one In The Tall Grass yet.

With all that in mind....and along similar lines to Ex Machina you should watch "Morgan". You'll like that one too.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on June 22, 2021, 08:54:52 am
OK.
Congrats on the novel.

Yeah, i first watched Splice simply for the director, Vincenzo Natali. Saw Splice as part of MIFF and loved it.
Saw it a couple of times since then, and it doesn't have quite the same impact.....but first viewing blew me away.

His movies are worth watching, especially those he has written and directed. Splice, Cube, Nothing.....and i haven't seen his latest one In The Tall Grass yet.

With all that in mind....and along similar lines to Ex Machina you should watch "Morgan". You'll like that one too.


Yep, some movies definitely are better left to a single viewing. I recall the scene in Splice ***spoiler alert*** where the two other critters suddenly turned on each other in front of all the investors... but that was the only weakness, IMHO, in the script... though the reason for them suddenly turning on each other was great and plausible - think I might have had a small scene or two that hinted that all was not well with them but our lead characters ignored the warning due to the imperative of funding. Just thoughts.

Where will I find 'Morgan'? Went looking on Stan and Netflix last night but no joy... sounds intriguing.

Splice has been left wide open for a sequel... so many ways it could go!
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 22, 2021, 01:09:42 pm
Thank you, GTC. A labour of love! Would have had the present project -- biblical supernatural thriller -- finished last year only good old PTSD floored me for a few months. Not complaining, just the way it is... on that, as an aside, helping out the RSL with the veterans suicide prevention task force - another passion.
Youre a selfless legend Baggers, chin up always with your battles and remember to take the time for yourself also.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on June 22, 2021, 06:40:15 pm
Where will I find 'Morgan'? Went looking on Stan and Netflix last night but no joy... sounds intriguing.
Its on Disney + at the moment. I think it used to be on Stan, must've just changed.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 12, 2021, 10:29:12 pm
If youre interested in good Aussie drama, give Secret City a bash on Netflix. Great cast, centred around Parliament House Canberra, espionage, military stuff, brilliant.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 12, 2021, 11:15:17 pm
I like " Animal Kingdom" on Netflix....good USA series based on the Aussie Film,.....Bit of a Dexter fan too, new series coming out later in the year with Michael C Hall again in the main role.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 13, 2021, 07:38:16 am
I like " Animal Kingdom" on Netflix....good USA series based on the Aussie Film,.....Bit of a Dexter fan too, new series coming out later in the year with Michael C Hall again in the main role.
Animal Kingdom is excellent, been a Dexter fan since it started and cant wait for the new series. Have you red the books EB?
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 13, 2021, 09:01:39 am
Animal Kingdom is excellent, been a Dexter fan since it started and cant wait for the new series. Have you red the books EB?
GTC.. No I haven't read the books, do they differ much from the TV Series?
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Thryleon on August 13, 2021, 09:47:19 am
May as well call this the netflix in lockdown topic.

Ill add the money heist to this one.  I really enjoyed watching Interstellar and think thats topical given our pandemic plight. 
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 13, 2021, 10:11:13 am
GTC.. No I haven't read the books, do they differ much from the TV Series?
A little different actually, pretty good reads.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: cookie2 on August 13, 2021, 10:22:15 am
Animal Kingdom is excellent, been a Dexter fan since it started and cant wait for the new series. Have you red the books EB?

Dexter was a great show imo. I will be fascinated to see the new series bearing in mind how the last one ended.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on August 13, 2021, 10:27:23 am
I was onto dexter from season 2 when a girl at work said I reminded her of him.... but in a good way.

How can a serial killer be looked at in a good way?  I was intrigued, and watched and got hooked.

For the record, she meant it was that im reserved and never know what I'm actually thinking... which was spot on.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 13, 2021, 10:43:21 am
I was onto dexter from season 2 when a girl at work said I reminded her of him.... but in a good way.

How can a serial killer be looked at in a good way?  I was intrigued, and watched and got hooked.

For the record, she meant it was that im reserved and never know what I'm actually thinking... which was spot on.
You don't own a boat and have rolls of plastic in the garage by any chance ;)
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: LP on August 13, 2021, 10:52:41 am
You don't own a boat and have rolls of plastic in the garage by any chance ;)
Owning a paper recycling factory does just as nicely, puts a whole new spin on your fish-n-chip wrapper or the Daily Rag!

And if you own a newspaper, where is the best place to identify your enemies, in the print of course! ;)

Also puts a whole new spin on the concept of being buried "In a cardboard box!", when they say "In", they really mean "In"!
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on August 13, 2021, 01:41:48 pm
You don't own a boat and have rolls of plastic in the garage by any chance ;)
Got some black plastic,  but no boat..and nowhere near the water
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: shawny on August 14, 2021, 08:49:13 am
Mr inbetween is worth a watch. An aussie series that is a little cringe at times but hooked me in. 

'How ya goin' is his go to opening sentence before he belts the living suitcase out of a crook (well usually a crook) and then returns home to be a decent dad and caring brother to a guy with MND.

I liked it and some of his thoughts as politically incorrect as they were did make a bit of sense the way he put it.        
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Post by: Gointocarlton on August 14, 2021, 01:32:30 pm
Mr inbetween is worth a watch. An aussie series that is a little cringe at times but hooked me in. 

'How ya goin' is his go to opening sentence before he belts the living suitcase out of a crook (well usually a crook) and then returns home to be a decent dad and caring brother to a guy with MND.

I liked it and some of his thoughts as politically incorrect as they were did make a bit of sense the way he put it.        
I mentioned this one a couple of weeks ago, I got hooked on it, loved it but the ending in series 3 is a bit crapola. Scott Ryan who starred as Ray Shoesmith and wrote the show was on Bob and Andy's drive show the other, great to listen to. You'll be happy to know he is a Bluebagger.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: LP on August 21, 2021, 11:16:46 am
This mornings CV debate reminds me of a great Streaming / TV series worth watching.

It stars Mark Strong who I rate as an actor and it is called Deep State.

Strong is also in another series worth watching, Temple.

If you find Temple interesting then you could watch Valkyrien, from NRK.

NRK and the BBC collaborate on some great Real Crime Podcasts as well, one of the best if you like listening to such is Death in Ice Valley.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on August 21, 2021, 01:24:39 pm
This mornings CV debate reminds me of a great Streaming / TV series worth watching.

It stars Mark Strong who I rate as an actor and it is called Deep State.

Strong is also in another series worth watching, Temple.

If you find Temple interesting then you could watch Valkyrien, from NRK.

NRK and the BBC collaborate on some great Real Crime Podcasts as well, one of the best if you like listening to such is Death in Ice Valley.

Thanks for the tips, Spotted One.

Loved Valkryrien.

Big fan of NRK and BBC stuff.

Recently finished watching The Blacklist. Got me in, though being a James Spader admirer helped. The casting of Boone in the role of Agent Keen was a mistake IMHO... needed a far stronger female lead. The overwhelming support and love for her by the cast lacks credibility and hurts the series. Being produced for TV also hurt the credibility. Dialogue lacks punch - no swearing doesn't match the violence. Great concepts though and Spader's acting carries the series.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: LP on August 21, 2021, 02:04:18 pm
Recently finished watching The Blacklist. Got me in, though being a James Spader admirer helped. The casting of Boone in the role of Agent Keen was a mistake IMHO... needed a far stronger female lead. The overwhelming support and love for her by the cast lacks credibility and hurts the series. Being produced for TV also hurt the credibility. Dialogue lacks punch - no swearing doesn't match the violence. Great concepts though and Spader's acting carries the series.
Yes, watched this one to the end. I thought Boone was OK as Keen while Tom was still about, that sort of played off against the rest of the plots. Mr Kaplan was one of the favourite characters.

Hard to see why they are going again after the most recent show ending, I presume to kill off the rest, but I'll watch it because it's there next season!

Spader is a freak, and I believe he picks the music for the show, some of it was outstanding, he has an air of David Lynch without the weird. They just seem to know exactly where you have to put a piece of the puzzle.

Thought the early Blacklist stuff was better than the more recent series, you can see the impact of COVID on all these latest series. Not just this, plenty of other recent series the writing has turned to mush, it just shows video conference isn't a replacement for face to face.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on August 21, 2021, 02:34:49 pm
Yes, watched this one to the end. I thought Boone was OK as Keen while Tom was still about, that sort of played off against the rest of the plots. Mr Kaplan was one of the favourite characters.

Hard to see why they are going again after the most recent show ending, I presume to kill off the rest, but I'll watch it because it's there next season!

Spader is a freak, and I believe he picks the music for the show, some of it was outstanding, he has an air of David Lynch without the weird. They just seem to know exactly where you have to put a piece of the puzzle.

Thought the early Blacklist stuff was better than the more recent series, you can see the impact of COVID on all these latest series. Not just this, plenty of other recent series the writing has turned to mush, it just shows video conference isn't a replacement for face to face.

Like your summary, Spotted One. Agree that Keen was better when Tom was there. Tom's character was strong and believable.

Forgot to mention Mr Kaplan. What a brilliant character... was sorry to see go.

Spader has confessed he is drawn to the unusual... which his movies reflect. Except maybe for Stargate, which he wasn't thrilled with.

Totally agree that after season 5/6 things got too soft.

Also like the character, Dembe... and what a ripper 'Jellybean' was. Sad he passed away (in real life), as did Brian Dennehy... his character was developing nicely.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Milhanna13 on August 21, 2021, 10:47:00 pm
Mr inbetween is worth a watch. An aussie series that is a little cringe at times but hooked me in. 

'How ya goin' is his go to opening sentence before he belts the living suitcase out of a crook (well usually a crook) and then returns home to be a decent dad and caring brother to a guy with MND.

I liked it and some of his thoughts as politically incorrect as they were did make a bit of sense the way he put it.        

It’s a cracker.  His strip-club owning boss is one of the great tv characters
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Post by: kruddler on August 25, 2021, 10:11:41 pm
Good points, K.

Ps Totally off point and as I respect your judgment re movies, etc., do you recommend a series as engaging as Blacklist?
@Baggers ...
Sorry, can't help you with that one. Never watched it personally.

There are so many good TV shows out there (as well as movies) and i simply don't have time to watch all the ones i want too, and certainly not enough time to start some with that many episodes.

So Blacklist? Dunno.
Black Mirror? Definitely!
Don't need a big investment as they are standalone episodes. If you like one, you'll like almost all though and it'll be the best thing you see for a long time.......but they are not for everyone.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: LP on August 27, 2021, 02:18:41 pm
Read a review in The Rage today reminded me of Deadwood.

Deadwood is worth a watch if anyone is looking for a series, sort of a Western version of Peaky Blinders, crooks running a town and some of the good and bad that goes with it.

I haven't seen the Deadwood movie from 2019, can anyone offer some feedback?
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Post by: Slowhand on August 27, 2021, 02:20:29 pm
It’s a cracker.  His strip-club owning boss is one of the great tv characters


Brilliant Show….
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Post by: cookie2 on October 25, 2021, 02:03:30 pm
I see shooting has started on the new Alex Baldwin movie.
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Post by: capcom on October 25, 2021, 02:13:10 pm
I see shooting has started on the new Alex Baldwin movie.

Pity there aren't 10 likes for that one cookie  :))  :))  :))
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on October 25, 2021, 02:24:48 pm
I see shooting has started on the new Alex Baldwin movie.
:D  :D
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Post by: Lods on October 25, 2021, 04:25:24 pm
The whole thing is a bit bizarre.

On the face of it it's a terrible accident and the negligence seems to be (or is being blamed ) on the part of the armory crew and the AD  who handed Baldwin the gun and pronounced it 'cold'
Conspiracy theories are starting to take off...Was the gun fiddled with on purpose to make Baldwin look  bad given his anti-gun stance?
The thing I don't get is why the gun was pointed at someone who was not part of the 'acting group'...and the trigger pulled.

Good luck to the authorities trying to make sense of all that.

@ LP re Deadwood...It's been a while so I'm not sure  whether you caught up with the film. If you liked the series you'll probably enjoy the film. It kind of ties up a few things. When the series was cancelled it left everything a bit up in the air.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: LP on October 25, 2021, 05:20:52 pm
The thing I don't get is why the gun was pointed at someone who was not part of the 'acting group'...and the trigger pulled.
Looking straight down the barrel camera shot!

https://youtu.be/Mjkt4UgcTmg?t=123
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: kruddler on October 25, 2021, 05:34:19 pm
I see shooting has started on the new Alex Baldwin movie.

Whats the US take on it? If only the camera crew had guns they could've defended the crew from the bullets?

Been a while since Brandon Lee died in a similar fashion but i remember watching something about how that supopsedly happened.

Apparantly when you shoot blanks, sometimes there is a bit left behind in the gun, so if you reload with another blank round, it fires what was left from the previous round and essentially makes it a bullet. In that case it was deemed an error from the stunt coordinator who failed to check properly.

Not sure if its the same with all guns/blanks but a relatively 'simple' mistake has ruined multiple lives.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: capcom on October 25, 2021, 06:13:50 pm
Ask Dean Cain (ex Superman Character) who's now a real life cop.  He knows this stuff back to front.  You NEVER fire a gun of ANY type on a movie set.  Baldwin's career is now dead.  As is his wealth.  Great !!
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Lods on October 25, 2021, 06:43:14 pm
Looking straight down the barrel camera shot!

https://youtu.be/Mjkt4UgcTmg?t=123

yep
That makes sense.

From the LA times...

"Actor Alec Baldwin was practicing removing a revolver from its holster and aiming toward the camera during rehearsal for the movie “Rust” when director Joel Souza heard “what sounded like a whip and then a loud pop,” according to a search warrant obtained by the Los Angeles Times on Sunday night that also provided grim new details about the final minutes of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins’ life."

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Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on October 25, 2021, 06:52:44 pm
Ask Dean Cain (ex Superman Character) who's now a real life cop.  He knows this stuff back to front.  You NEVER fire a gun of ANY type on a movie set.  Baldwin's career is now dead.  As is his wealth.  Great !!
Did some lighting hoist design/green screen work for a mate who was working at the Docklands studio's and the College of the Arts and watched a few movies being made and its a fairly rigorous process to get a gun on set.The Armourer is the one who will cop it as all the firearm safety stuff falls on their shoulders.
I believe the Armourer involved in the Baldwin film has gone into hiding and with good reason....seems she might have had a few dubious events previously. Even on the student films I watched being made they had the best professionals, its not an area where you take short cuts, all the Armourers I saw were senior gentleman with many years experience not sure this was the case on this film set.
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Post by: Lods on October 25, 2021, 07:04:11 pm
Did some lighting hoist design/green screen work for a mate who was working at the Docklands studio's and the College of the Arts and watched a few movies being made and its a fairly rigorous process to get a gun on set.The Armourer is the one who will cop it as all the firearm safety stuff falls on their shoulders.
I believe the Armourer involved in the Baldwin film has gone into hiding and with good reason....seems she might have had a few dubious events previously. Even on the student films I watched being made they had the best professionals, its not an area where you take short cuts, all the Armourers I saw were senior gentleman with many years experience not sure this was the case on this film set.

Her father is apparently one of the best in the business and she learn't from him....but she had expressed doubts about her own ability with blanks.
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Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on October 25, 2021, 07:18:39 pm
Her father is apparently one of the best in the business and she learn't from him....but she had expressed doubts about her own ability with blanks.
Those doubts would have made me changing armourers...not really a career with much leeway for failure.
Many years ago My sister in laws ex did some pistol training for his security licence and was told the Experienced Instructor who was assigned to them had recently returned to work after accidently shooting himself in the head.
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Post by: DJC on October 25, 2021, 10:02:15 pm
How on earth does a live round find its way on to a movie set and in to a firearm that has been checked by the armourer?  There is no way that anyone with very basic firearms training could mistake a live round for a blank.

There are protocols for firing weapons loaded with blanks in the direction of folk on or off movie sets.  We were permitted to aim rifles and machine guns loaded with blanks directly at the "enemy" provided they were 10m or more away.

Ask Dean Cain (ex Superman Character) who's now a real life cop.  He knows this stuff back to front.  You NEVER fire a gun of ANY type on a movie set.  Baldwin's career is now dead.  As is his wealth.  Great !!

That is a ridiculous statement.  Firearms are routinely discharged on the sets of many movies, and most Hollywood movies.

Baldwin must be devastated but the information released indicates that he was told the firearm was safe.  If anything affects his career, it will be the psychological impact of accidentally taking a life.

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Post by: madbluboy on October 26, 2021, 06:52:48 am
Trump fans and the NRA going to town on him.

"Guns don't kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people"

Pretty stupid when the incident does highlight that guns kill people by accident.
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Post by: capcom on October 26, 2021, 07:43:56 am
That is a ridiculous statement.  Firearms are routinely discharged on the sets of many movies, and most Hollywood movies.

Then talk to Cain about it, not me !!
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Post by: Baggers on October 26, 2021, 09:36:13 am
How on earth does a live round find its way on to a movie set and in to a firearm that has been checked by the armourer?  There is no way that anyone with very basic firearms training could mistake a live round for a blank.

There are protocols for firing weapons loaded with blanks in the direction of folk on or off movie sets.  We were permitted to aim rifles and machine guns loaded with blanks directly at the "enemy" provided they were 10m or more away.

That is a ridiculous statement.  Firearms are routinely discharged on the sets of many movies, and most Hollywood movies.

Baldwin must be devastated but the information released indicates that he was told the firearm was safe.  If anything affects his career, it will be the psychological impact of accidentally taking a life.



Well said, David. Naturally as part of my military training (RAN) we were tirelessly drilled on firearms safety - it was a major part of our training. A 'live' round looks very different to a 'blank' round. Totally different. Only Mr Magoo couldn't tell the difference. My very first question when hearing of this tragedy was 'how the hell did a live round get onto a movie set?'

It was drilled into us even when using blanks, as you rightly pointed out, that the only safe distance was at least 10 yards (in those days)... preferably much further. AND, every firearm after use MUST be cleaned to ensure to ensure a pristine barrel (the infamous 'pull through'). The 3 weapons I personally became pretty proficient with were the Browning 9mm pistol, SLR17 long barrell and even the 50 cal machine gun (a beast of a weapon)... love how Sly Stallone could carry and fire one of those on his own - pure fantasy.

Naturally we all feel for Halyna's loved ones, colleagues and friends... but also Alec Baldwin. He trusted the professionals around him and was tragically let down. The fact he has spent time with Halyna's loved ones shows class and deep remorse.
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Post by: LP on October 26, 2021, 09:45:34 am
My very first question when hearing of this tragedy was 'how the hell did a live round get onto a movie set?'
It doesn't need live rounds on set to kill someone, it can be a Brandon Lee type scenario.

In Lee's case they used dummy shells c/w projectile but no charge for a close up filming of the handgun being loaded, but when they swapped out the dummy rounds for blanks nobody noticed one of the projectiles had come off the shell and was lodged in the barrel. When they fired the blanks at the actor the round left lodged in the barrel killed him!

I believe people have also been killed by the wadding used in some blanks, but this can't be the case given the round went right through the victim and hit the director standing behind.
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Post by: kruddler on October 26, 2021, 06:19:21 pm
It doesn't need live rounds on set to kill someone, it can be a Brandon Lee type scenario.

In Lee's case they used dummy shells c/w projectile but no charge for a close up filming of the handgun being loaded, but when they swapped out the dummy rounds for blanks nobody noticed one of the projectiles had come off the shell and was lodged in the barrel. When they fired the blanks at the actor the round left lodged in the barrel killed him!

I believe people have also been killed by the wadding used in some blanks, but this can't be the case given the round went right through the victim and hit the director standing behind.

re Lee
I basically said the same thing in the 1st post on top of this page.
Title: Re: Movie thread...
Post by: Baggers on October 26, 2021, 07:00:47 pm
It doesn't need live rounds on set to kill someone, it can be a Brandon Lee type scenario.

In Lee's case they used dummy shells c/w projectile but no charge for a close up filming of the handgun being loaded, but when they swapped out the dummy rounds for blanks nobody noticed one of the projectiles had come off the shell and was lodged in the barrel. When they fired the blanks at the actor the round left lodged in the barrel killed him!

I believe people have also been killed by the wadding used in some blanks, but this can't be the case given the round went right through the victim and hit the director standing behind.

If the regime of cleaning a barrel after every use had been adhered to, and is adhered to, then no remaining part from any previous use could still be present in the barrel.
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Post by: DJC on October 26, 2021, 10:31:16 pm
It doesn't need live rounds on set to kill someone, it can be a Brandon Lee type scenario.

In Lee's case they used dummy shells c/w projectile but no charge for a close up filming of the handgun being loaded, but when they swapped out the dummy rounds for blanks nobody noticed one of the projectiles had come off the shell and was lodged in the barrel. When they fired the blanks at the actor the round left lodged in the barrel killed him!

I believe people have also been killed by the wadding used in some blanks, but this can't be the case given the round went right through the victim and hit the director standing behind.

Even the hot gases produced by the firing of a blank cartridge can cause harm, as can solid parts of the blank.  Any such parts are quite small and decelerate quickly, hence the 10 metre rule in the military.

The Brandon Lee scenario may have been slightly more difficult to detect but should have been picked up by a competent armourer.  If anything, the Brandon Lee tragedy should have resulted in more rigorous firearms safety checks. 

Aurangzeb junior is flogging T-shirts mocking Alec Baldwin's part in this tragic loss of life.  I can't help thinking that the world would be a better place if Aurangzeb had been drowned at birth.
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Post by: Mav on October 27, 2021, 09:09:16 am
There was another actor who died from a blank, although not a big name like Brandon Lee. Unfortunately, the guy with the gun was frustrated by delays in filming the scene and joked he was so bored he was going to kill himself. He then pointed the gun at the side of his head and pulled the trigger. The blast sent a piece of his skull through his brain.
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Post by: Mav on October 27, 2021, 09:38:30 am
Alec Baldwin, as an actor, seems to be a victim rather than a perpetrator. It looks like he was told it was a “cold gun” and was practising a scene that required him to shoot directly at camera. But he was also one of the film’s producers, and that means he may well be partly responsible for any laxity in safety protocols. At least the film location wasn’t in Italy: they really sheet home criminal responsibility to management over there.

But I guess it depends on whether this was a vanity credit. Did he have any more control over filming than any other lead actor? Did it just mean he had put money into the production?

Credits don't necessarily mean what they say. Apparently in the music business songwriters are often asked by famous singers' managers to give co-writing credit and a 50% share of the songwriting royalties to the singers as a condition of them recording the song. Dolly Parton refused such a demand from Elvis to sing one of her songs. While it hurt her then, her decision was richly rewarded. The song was "I'll Always Love You" and she has made so much money from Whitney Houston's version and its use in The Bodyguard that she could buy a small country with the proceeds.
 
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Post by: Mav on October 27, 2021, 09:57:23 am
Damn, looks like The Age beat me to it: Potential legal woes for Baldwin grow after ‘Rust’ shooting tragedy (https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/potential-legal-woes-grow-after-rust-shooting-tragedy-20211027-p593h7.html).
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Post by: LP on October 27, 2021, 09:59:55 am
But I guess it depends on whether this was a vanity credit. Did he have any more control over filming than any other lead actor? Did it just mean he had put money into the production?

Credits don't necessarily mean what they say.
Correct, on modern films and production nearly all actors are listed as Producers or Executive Producers, it's a trend which has grown out of DEI requirements studios must meet to receive government funding! (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) It's like naming every employee as a manager with equal rights to decision making, but with that comes liability!
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Post by: dodge on October 28, 2021, 06:17:31 pm
Documentary, rather than movie.  Unfortunately, The Children in the Pictures (on SBS) is on my agenda for the weekend.

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/movie/the-children-in-the-pictures/1957876291797

Human trafficking is in the top three international crimes, along with drugs and weapons - I am wondering how far away cyber crime is to these.  It isn't going to be light viewing.
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Post by: capcom on October 28, 2021, 06:32:25 pm
Documentary, rather than movie.  Unfortunately, The Children in the Pictures (on SBS) is on my agenda for the weekend.

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/movie/the-children-in-the-pictures/1957876291797

Human trafficking is in the top three international crimes, along with drugs and weapons - I am wondering how far away cyber crime is to these.  It isn't going to be light viewing.

Getting to becoming a scourge @dodge ...
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Post by: dodge on October 28, 2021, 09:00:48 pm
Not getting to be - it absolutely is!  I won't hijack the thread, but it is horrible.
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Post by: DJC on October 28, 2021, 11:31:21 pm
My daughter made a couple of trips to Nepal to provide villages with machines that produce sanitary napkins.  It seems that young girls stop going to school when they get their period and lack of education and social isolation/exclusion makes them prime targets for people traffickers.

As part of the fundraising for the sanitary napkin program, my daughter organised a movie night at which the movie "Sold" was shown - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1411956/

It's not a documentary, and has more than it's share of Hollywood actors in cameo roles, but I think that it accurately portrays the trafficking of young Nepalese (and other vulnerable) girls for the sex industry.  I found it pretty confronting but it opened my eyes to something I didn't know existed. 
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Post by: Thryleon on October 29, 2021, 10:51:25 am
^^

Its not solely minorities in countries.  tourists go missing and sold into slavery in the western world too.  The societal issues that Nepal face, are as much to do with socio economics as anything else, but over in europe, there is a mafia element that hooks youngsters on drugs, in order to lure them into the sex slave trade to pay for them.

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Post by: Baggers on October 29, 2021, 05:18:48 pm
Yours truly worked, briefly, with a well known VicPol detective who headed up the Sexual Abuse Task Force in the 90s. A true hero of a bloke. But I had to bow out as the vile realities of what was occurring literally did me in - I saw one photo of one 8 year old girl and what was being done to her and I was deeply traumatized for some time. I ended up needing the support I was offering.

In a nutshell, this horror (paedophilia/sexual abuse of children and teens) has been going on in human civilization since time immemorial. And continues to grow to this day. The brilliant work being done by truly remarkable people in rescuing these kids, globally, is Herculean. But, tragically, their numbers and support/funding is so poor as to be asking firefighters to collectively p1ss on bush fires rather than use appliances.

I've also seen the SBS doco, and others like it. The realities of the sex abuse horrors, and the horrendous numbers, are often simply too much for most members of society to confront, or at times even believe.

To make matters worse, we have to ask ourselves what happens to the kids/teens subjected to such atrocities as they grow up... rescued or not? Then we also have to ask ourselves what happens to the folks pursuing these heinous perpetrators - the burnout/PTSD prevalence of these exceptional folks is, as you could well imagine, very high.
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Post by: capcom on October 29, 2021, 09:21:14 pm
@Baggers ... I'd have no hesitation in shooting them on the spot but if that sh1t got to you, of all people, I'd have lost it far earlier.  You're not even human.  You're dead.
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Post by: DJC on October 29, 2021, 10:59:10 pm
We're getting a bit off topic but there must be a link back to movies somewhere along the line  ::)

Many years ago, I was sent to the Turana Youth Training Centre to sort out their filing.  A few years before this, a couple of mates had "done time" in Turana and to do so was seen as a badge of honour to some of my schoolmates.

After a couple of hours of sorting through the files, it became very obvious that a common thread was sexual abuse at a young age, generally by family members and/or family friends.  Many of the tough kids that we admired/feared had been violated by those who should have been nurturing and protecting them.

Violence and misogyny were common threads in my neighbourhood but I think that it was learned behaviour rather than some innate desire to harm/degrade others.  
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Post by: cookie2 on October 30, 2021, 08:59:25 am
@ DJC
Interesting DJC and without going into too much detail I can support what you are saying. Sexual predation on the young can result in the young even learning from it and becoming predatory themselves, and I have definite knowledge of such in a society that is far away removef from that which you describe. In this case it was what some may call reasonably affluent middle-class. It is a terrible  curse on society for sure.
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Post by: northernblue on October 31, 2021, 12:20:49 am
Something I’ve pondered over the past couple of months is why was the St Kilda and later Carlton little league pedophilla was NOT raised for discussion here ?
As the posts above show, it’s a far reaching issue and I was surprised that it hadn’t featured here…
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Post by: Milhanna13 on October 31, 2021, 01:42:17 am
So.... umm.... top 8 this year for the blues????   (Not wanting to change the subject..... but desperately wanting to change the subject)
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Post by: dodge on October 31, 2021, 10:24:32 am
My fault for the tangent, sorry.  Favourite films in our household at the moment are Frozen, Moana, anything Star wars.  I just go to sleep on the couch.
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Post by: DJC on October 31, 2021, 10:58:46 am
If you're looking for something a little different, try the Ballad of Buster Scruggs on Netflix.  It's a series of short stories rather than a feature film and Tom Waits (on of my all-time heroes) plays one of the main roles.
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Post by: dodge on October 31, 2021, 02:03:42 pm
Love Tom Waits too, but not allowed to watch his films or listen to his music at home while my wife is at home.
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Post by: Baggers on October 31, 2021, 02:32:56 pm
Love Tom Waits too, but not allowed to watch his films or listen to his music at home while my wife is at home.

My late mother introduced me to Tom Waits! Been a fan ever since.
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Post by: dodge on November 01, 2021, 10:39:48 am
I watched The Children in the Frame last night.  It is frightening how many people are members of exploitation/abuse sites there are and the lack of resources that are given to them.  It is also frightening how this is one only one element - the trafficking of children for sex, slavery, bonded labour are a few other elements.

To those that work on the frontline combatting this - you are amazing.

Tonight's viewing might be something a little lighter.

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Post by: RiverRat on November 02, 2021, 06:39:22 pm
Long time fan of Red Dwarf. Love it.



Smegg'n brilliant