With even a few of our injured available, we'd have what is required to win.
At least the game is on a Saturday afternoon.
Cottrell and Durdin in..... makes sense.
Dusty and Soldo out for them. Makes JSOS's life a bit easier!
(wrong forum!! sorry!!)
The one day we play Saturday afternoon. Where am I? On a plane to Helsinki at 12.15pm on Saturday. Could have been played at night so I could watch it during my stopover in Singapore but no, they had to put it Saturday afternoon....lol.
Then may athlete has made the world track and field championships at 49yo. Wasn't expected so much so I end up in another country watching my other athletes at the World Masters Championships.
Recover, refresh and go again. We cannot lose CP and allow so many I50s against Freo.
Recover, refresh and go again. We cannot lose CP and allow so many I50s against Freo.
The old mid season flat patch. Forgotten what that was like... lol.
Composition of playing group needs to change and need a hard tag for Brayshaw and limit his influence.
Probably a game for Fogarty to find his niche
Be no chance if we played them in WA but I think at Marvel we can regroup and knock them over. TDK or Jack to play back and like Krud I think it was who suggested it maybe time for Mirkov to debut. Not ideal given his form is nothing special but we cant go in with just Young down back at decent KP height and we need to get inventive.
Hoping Charlie can bounce back after an average game vs Grimes as Harry will probably find Pearce a tough opponent like he did last time. Blues by 17 points with Cripps and Walsh dominating, George to take Serong or Brayshaw....
Be no chance if we played them in WA but I think at Marvel we can regroup and knock them over. TDK or Jack to play back and like Krud I think it was who suggested it maybe time for Mirkov to debut. Not ideal given his form is nothing special but we cant go in with just Young down back at decent KP height and we need to get inventive.
Hoping Charlie can bounce back after an average game vs Grimes as Harry will probably find Pearce a tough opponent like he did last time. Blues by 17 points with Cripps and Walsh dominating, George to take Serong or Brayshaw....
Apparently we have played 19 defenders as our back 6 this year. We get Durdin out of desperation in the mid season Draft and even he gets injured first game.
There's a decent record of sides getting crippled with injury at this stage of the year going on to win the flag. Richmond 2019/20 and Hawthorn 2008 and one of the 3 peat years come to mind. Nothing like having a pile of fresh blokes at the end of a long season. The key is to hold your ground as much as possible when depleted. If you can then you have quite an advantage late in the season.
Be no chance if we played them in WA but I think at Marvel we can regroup and knock them over. TDK or Jack to play back and like Krud I think it was who suggested it maybe time for Mirkov to debut. Not ideal given his form is nothing special but we cant go in with just Young down back at decent KP height and we need to get inventive.
Hoping Charlie can bounce back after an average game vs Grimes as Harry will probably find Pearce a tough opponent like he did last time. Blues by 17 points with Cripps and Walsh dominating, George to take Serong or Brayshaw....
Yep, it was me.
Through sheer necessity for height, its our only option.
We could potentially try and bring in Akieu (i have no idea if he is fit, if he is even performing, but he is literally the only other bloke on our list who could have a claim to being able to hold down a spot as a key defender.....and realistically, he'd not be expected to do that for a another few years.)
IMO, we simply have to try Mirkov and play Jack or TDK back. One permanently, and the other dropping back behind the ball.
I'd be rucking Cripps as a backup throughout the middle and Harry when I50.
Yep, it was me.
Through sheer necessity for height, its our only option.
We could potentially try and bring in Akieu (i have no idea if he is fit, if he is even performing, but he is literally the only other bloke on our list who could have a claim to being able to hold down a spot as a key defender.....and realistically, he'd not be expected to do that for a another few years.)
IMO, we simply have to try Mirkov and play Jack or TDK back. One permanently, and the other dropping back behind the ball.
I'd be rucking Cripps as a backup throughout the middle and Harry when I50.
Think out of necessity Kemp will play on the key position next week. Not ideal but what can you do. Let's hope his health insurance is up to date if he is going to play key back given the luck the others there have had.
I think Honey needs to come in. Has a very happy knack of getting to the right places at the right time. Probably replaces Corey Durdin, who has lost a bit of mojo over the past 2-3 weeks.
I think Honey needs to come in. Has a very happy knack of getting to the right places at the right time. Probably replaces Corey Durdin, who has lost a bit of mojo over the past 2-3 weeks.
Replaces Martin IMO
Replaces Martin IMO
Yep, I would have dropped Martin if he wasn't injured...
Replaces Martin IMO
Yep, you're right
Honey managed 13 possessions and 4 goals, which was reasonable. Not getting enough of the pill, but he was doing something with it this time.
Stocker must be a chance: he stood up and dominated the back half. 26 possessions and 9 marks.
Cincotta impresses me. I love his second and third efforts and his kicking is good. 27 possessions, 5 marks and 5 tackles. A pity that we have players who fill his role, as he looks like a good'un. Play him on a wing?
Martin looks cooked along with some others on our list unfortunately for us
Honey has to be strongly considered but also understand one more week in the VFL is ok with me.
Kemp and Honey ins. Martin and Durdin out and age profile against Freo should be very low.
I think Honey needs to come in. Has a very happy knack of getting to the right places at the right time. Probably replaces Corey Durdin, who has lost a bit of mojo over the past 2-3 weeks.
Obvious replacement for Martin. Honey is one of those blokes who makes things happen from limited opportunities. Got a bit of mongrel -- also Stocks, who could also return -- and we like that!
Was totally against Mirkov getting a look in this year but I think we need to take a few risks given the fact that the cupboard is bare!! We have been getting very little out of DeKoning, JSOS has been more effective. Mirkov to just contest, DeKoning to go to half back ( as get some lessons from his brother beforehand!!) Or JSOS to half back and DeKoning as the 3rd tall up forward, assisting in the ruck!!
Was totally against Mirkov getting a look in this year but I think we need to take a few risks given the fact that the cupboard is bare!! We have been getting very little out of DeKoning, JSOS has been more effective. Mirkov to just contest, DeKoning to go to half back ( as get some lessons from his brother beforehand!!) Or JSOS to half back and DeKoning as the 3rd tall up forward, assisting in the ruck!!
I think Mirkov has to come in. We've been well beaten in the ruck for some weeks now, no matter how de Koning and Jack have tried. As a tactic, teams are now aware of it and have taken that into consideration.
I would prefer to have Mirkov learn his trade in the 2's, but we need to do something different, especially against the Dockers who have two strong ruckmen.
The small forward issue is a conundrum indeed. Phelp didn't kick any goals on the weekend, but he did get 20 possessions and wasn't bad. Similarly, Honey managed 4 goals and was dangerous. Both are that bit taller and stronger in the air, which makes our forward line that bit more unpredictable.
You cannot pick a team with a tape measure.
You cannot pick a team with a tape measure.
Think you have to look at the opposition and where their strengths are and try and matchup accordingly, Darcy and Lobb are a big part of why Freo are going so well. Their midfield is very good but its fed by Darcy, and Lobb while not a great ruckman is a threat up forward because of his size and he does kick straight. The TDK/Jack partnership have over achieved but TDK is being asked to do a lot and Jack isnt getting the second stringers anymore as teams are playing their best ruckman more often when he is relieving TDK....its not working as it did and we need to change it up just like we cant leave Young stranded down back looking after Taberner and Lobb given he is the only real tall defender we have.
Think you have to look at the opposition and where their strengths are and try and matchup accordingly, Darcy and Lobb are a big part of why Freo are going so well. Their midfield is very good but its fed by Darcy, and Lobb while not a great ruckman is a threat up forward because of his size and he does kick straight. The TDK/Jack partnership have over achieved but TDK is being asked to do a lot and Jack isnt getting the second stringers anymore as teams are playing their best ruckman more often when he is relieving TDK....its not working as it did and we need to change it up just like we cant leave Young stranded down back looking after Taberner and Lobb given he is the only real tall defender we have.
Watched the 2nds game on Friday night and was impresed by Mirkov with a couple of things that he did, a volloyball swat at the ball to knock it out of bounds, and a gather and handball over the pack to a free teammate, however apart from those 2 highligts he did not do much else. Personally I think he is still 12 -18 months away from been ready for his AFL debut.
You cannot pick a team with a tape measure.
You can lose a game by ignoring one.
Darcy and Lobb are a big part of why Freo are going so well.
I understand
@ElwoodBlues1 , but at this stage Mirkov would be a traffic cone to them in the midfield and mostly useless elsewhere on the field. I'd rather play SoJ as a 2nd ruck and have Kemp in D50 and I'm not even sure Kemp is a defender of any note, but at least he can play some useful role across the field.
Last night Mirkov played against a guy who basically barely got a gig because his club's ruck division was then in worse state than our current defence situation, and Mirkov just broke even!
Expecting Mirkov to come in and not actually be a handicap is unreasonable, he may even get in our way more than he helps! Of course I hope I am completely wrong and he comes in and earns a Rising Star nomination!
I think with the ruck situation, TDK is competing admirably virtually playing a lone hand. This year will be huge for his development and will come out the other side a far better ruckman. SOS has given him a chop out but realistically isn't anywhere near even a second string ruckman. I think MIrkov, even with his limited experience, is huge and will at least get his hands close to the ball and give the opposition ruckman something to think about. Again abit like the TDK situation, give him a taste for the sake of his development and necessity, it can't hurt given where we are.
Martin must go out injured or not.
Durdin must stay in, IMO it's Owies spot in the side that would be under more scrutiny.
It will come down to match ups I guess, it will be interesting to see if the two big WA bulls in Cripps and Fyfe go head to head, what a sight to see.
Owies is doing ok. I know he didn't have the highlights last week, but you can't simply drop a bloke at the first sign of trouble.
I understand @ElwoodBlues1 , but at this stage Mirkov would be a traffic cone to them in the midfield and mostly useless elsewhere on the field. I'd rather play SoJ as a 2nd ruck and have Kemp in D50 and I'm not even sure Kemp is a defender of any note, but at least he can play some useful role across the field.
Last night Mirkov played against a guy who basically barely got a gig because his club's ruck division was then in worse state than our current defence situation, and Mirkov just broke even!
Expecting Mirkov to come in and not actually be a handicap is unreasonable, he may even get in our way more than he helps! Of course I hope I am completely wrong and he comes in and earns a Rising Star nomination!
I think you are misreading the situation.
Nobody is expecting him to dominate the ruck. TBH, i'm not even expecting him to break even......but i just hope he can get very close too.
The benefit of taking a hit in the ruck, is it gives us some chance of getting some height/talent in the backline and ultimately give us a chance of holding them to a reasonable score.
Simply having the ability to have TDK sitting in the hole for a game immediately makes us a better side.
He can intercept mark if the high ball comes in and he will force leads to go wide to the boundary, resulting in poorer shots on goal, and lesser conversion.
Its not about him becoming a dominant back, its giving them some hope.
Having a telephone pole who can jump being somewhat of a sacrificial lamb in the ruck allows all this to happen.
Hey, if Mirkov breaks even in the ruck. Bonus.
If he wins it, brilliant!
All we need is someone to try and compete in the ruck.
If we could use a wacky waving, inflatable arm flailing tube man, i would!
FWIW....one of these guys....
https://www.youtube.com/v/rHXvMcLrLSY
Mirkov barely broke even against Sweet in the ruck. I don't think we need to rush him - coming along nicely but he is a big bloke and needs another pre season imo
Whatever we do it needs to maximise our current strengths whilst covering the weaknesses. Matchups will be vital IMO.
Switkowski out may be helpful. Fredricks is a tricky matchup. Not sure how Fyfe will influence their set up. With a bit of luck, dare I use that word, it creates a temporary readjustment that we can take advantage of. As we know, games can be really set up q1.
Creativity by mc and coaches, may just give us an edge against an in form freo. As may playing at home. I hope their neighbour Nathan22 isn't umpiring. Although he was good recently he crucified us in WA last year.
Go Blues
Watched the 2nds game on Friday night and was impresed by Mirkov with a couple of things that he did, a volloyball swat at the ball to knock it out of bounds, and a gather and handball over the pack to a free teammate, however apart from those 2 highligts he did not do much else. Personally I think he is still 12 -18 months away from been ready for his AFL debut.
He probably isnt ready but as Krud pointed out in his post(26) expectations are low and its more to allow TDK to fill that hole down back and also provides TDK with some type of proper rest after banging bodies with Darcy and Lobb .
We all love Jack and he has been great but as what happened with Shaun Grigg teams began to change tactics and took advantage of the size difference by playing either two genuine rucks or rucking their senior rucks against him and apart from the obvious losing the ruck contests there is a fair chance Jack will get hurt vs the giants like Darcy and we are doing a young man like TDK no favours either by asking him to play so many minutes onball and its denying us of his abilities down forward as well.
Players often lift when playing senior footy and I think Mirkov might be similar to Ned Reeves of Hawthorn who was very raw but has acquitted himself well at senior level..
You know...for all of the worries about our defensive woes...we haven't had a 100 points or over kicked against us in any game this year.
It'll probably come but so far, so good.
Mirkov barely broke even against Sweet in the ruck. I don't think we need to rush him - coming along nicely but he is a big bloke and needs another pre season imo
I rate Sweet. His best is pretty good. He hasn't got a lot of time at the Dogs and he isn't consistent, but his best is much better than most of his opponents at VFL level. I was quite happy that Mirkov broke even with him.
Another guy I rate is Sam Hayes at Port. He has similar issues to to TDK, in that he isn't hugely strong, but he is a ruck on the rise. Both he and TDK will be better in the dry. At the moment, the bull-type ruck has the advantage. Pitto is our only bull.
Darcy is a bull, which puts TDK at a big disadvantage. Tom couldn't get on top of him last year when Darcy wasn't playing so well. While Tom has improved, his confidence is not what it was a couple of weeks back. Against Sydney he could do little wrong.
With the game at Marvel, Tom will play better: the conditions suit him more. But Jack hasn't been able to influence things. I'd bring in Mirkov: he has that extra reach that spoils Darcy's ability to direct the ball. He can also out-jump Lobb. The dry track also helps him.
If the game were at the MCG, I don't think I'd try him. He doesn't have the ability to out-body his opponents yet. But the dry track gives him a better chance.
I'd be tempted tp play Silvagni in defence against Taberner. I don't think he's the man to play on Lobb. I don't think Kemp is either. Lobb has that extra height, but struggles against physical opponents. We don't have any uninjured.
I rate Sweet. His best is pretty good. He hasn't got a lot of time at the Dogs and he isn't consistent, but his best is much better than most of his opponents at VFL level. I was quite happy that Mirkov broke even with him.
Another guy I rate is Sam Hayes at Port. He has similar issues to to TDK, in that he isn't hugely strong, but he is a ruck on the rise. Both he and TDK will be better in the dry. At the moment, the bull-type ruck has the advantage. Pitto is our only bull.
Darcy is a bull, which puts TDK at a big disadvantage. Tom couldn't get on top of him last year when Darcy wasn't playing so well. While Tom has improved, his confidence is not what it was a couple of weeks back. Against Sydney he could do little wrong.
With the game at Marvel, Tom will play better: the conditions suit him more. But Jack hasn't been able to influence things. I'd bring in Mirkov: he has that extra reach that spoils Darcy's ability to direct the ball. He can also out-jump Lobb. The dry track also helps him.
If the game were at the MCG, I don't think I'd try him. He doesn't have the ability to out-body his opponents yet. But the dry track gives him a better chance.
I'd be tempted tp play Silvagni in defence against Taberner. I don't think he's the man to play on Lobb. I don't think Kemp is either. Lobb has that extra height, but struggles against physical opponents. We don't have any uninjured.
Jordan Sweet is the type of backup ruck we should pursue if the Dogs were looking to move him on, he is reasonably physical and has Pittonet type qualities in that he competes well without being a worldbeater and its surprised me why he hasnt been paired with English more and the Dogs have gone with Martin and now Schache who has no idea in the ruck imo.
Lobb is a shizen ruckman but will bully smaller defenders, he is big unit at 206cm and 106kg and imo Young will have to take him and leave Taberner who is a better footballer to one of our other defenders who will also be giving away plenty of size and weight unless TDK is employed down back and can take Lobb and Darcy when they rotate.
Jordan Sweet is the type of backup ruck we should pursue if the Dogs were looking to move him on, he is reasonably physical and has Pittonet type qualities in that he competes well without being a worldbeater and its surprised me why he hasnt been paired with English more and the Dogs have gone with Martin and now Schache who has no idea in the ruck imo.
I get the interest in Sweet, but didn't the Dogs have him behind Lewis Young in the backup ruck pecking order?
Is someone who is displaced by Schache as a ruck a viable option?
I get the interest in Sweet, but didn't the Dogs have him behind Lewis Young in the backup ruck pecking order?
Is someone who is displaced by Schache as a ruck a viable option?
Sam Jacobs was displaced by Robbie Warnock and Shaun Hampson once upon a time.
Either J Sweet or L. Meek at Freo, should be pursed both reliable & workable Ruck options , together with Pitto will resolve a massive problem for us, strengthen our midfield immediately and alleviate pressure on our Defense.
TDK could help in as KPD or KPF ,it’s absolutely urgent that Curly Jnr looks into bring in a mature body Ruck support.
Sam Jacobs was displaced by Robbie Warnock and Shaun Hampson once upon a time.
Sauce was one of a number of talented players that we didn't utilise well - no wonder he went home to SA.
Sam Jacobs was displaced by Robbie Warnock and Shaun Hampson once upon a time.
So we should pick them all just in case, obviously that is untenable!
I didn't read a single forum member on here positively mention Sweet when we were into Young, and both Sweet and Young have been in the system playing together since 2018.
No matter which one we pick up, some will assert in hindsight it should have been the other, some will assert it in advance! ::)
Taberner likely to come back in for them and if they go with Logue up forward it'll be nigh on impossible to man them up when Lobb is playing forward too. Probably means that Kemp just plays down back by necessity.
Is it time to throw Mirkov in? JSOS has got no chance against Lobb and is better served either as a 3rd tall or even playing behind the ball. Mirkov might not do much else other than be nuisance value but rucking JSOS just takes him away from being where he's most effective...and that's not a knock on how hard he works when asked to ruck either.
People are always worried about the bad stuff, they tend to see the worst case all the time.
If Freo load up on talls to "take advantage" of our bad tall defender situation, they better hit targets, because if the pill hits the deck they won't stop Saad, Doc, LoB and Boyd, even Durdin and Owies, streaming it out of our D50 almost unhindered! All we need is to ensure we have the pressure on in the midfield to affect those disposals entering our D50!
Swings and Roundabouts, there is always a way!
People are always worried about the bad stuff, they tend to see the worst case all the time.
If Freo load up on talls to "take advantage" of our bad tall defender situation, they better hit targets, because if the pill hits the deck they won't stop Saad, Doc, LoB and Boyd, even Durdin and Owies, streaming it out of our D50 almost unhindered! All we need is to ensure we have the pressure on in the midfield to affect those disposals entering our D50!
Swings and Roundabouts, there is always a way!
Last time we had our hands full with their smalls and Schultz was all over our small defenders who were caught out off their man kick chasing, we would want to do a better job this time manning them up.
They also have Fyfe back in the team who gives them another big mid and marking target, we would want be a lot more careful with our matchups than we were vs Collingwood and Richmond. This is a winnable game being at Marvel and imo the only way we will lose is to put some of our more risky players on some of their better players.
So we should pick them all just in case, obviously that is untenable!
I didn't read a single forum member on here positively mention Sweet when we were into Young, and both Sweet and Young have been in the system playing together since 2018.
No matter which one we pick up, some will assert in hindsight it should have been the other, some will assert it in advance! ::)
Who is suggesting its either/or?
Sweet is a ruck.
Young is a back....who played a bit in the ruck due to a need.
FWIW, i haven't suggested we draft Sweet, i haven't said we shouldn't.
I've made my stance pretty clear that we have a severe lack of KPPs and would welcome anyone who could hold their own and stay out on the park.
I am really hoping for some post-bye lethargy from Freo. They weren't that great against an undermanned Hawks team, and I am expecting that anything Lobb and Tabberner can produce will be significantly less than H and Charlie.
I am really hoping for some post-bye lethargy from Freo. They weren't that great against an undermanned Hawks team, and I am expecting that anything Lobb and Tabberner can produce will be significantly less than H and Charlie.
This is where we win the game if we can generate enough supply, Harry and Charlie are our trumps, we probably need more output from our small forwards to match the Freo group who stitched us up last time.
This is where we win the game if we can generate enough supply, Harry and Charlie are our trumps, we probably need more output from our small forwards to match the Freo group who stitched us up last time.
I suspect sides will attempt to replicate the Tiggers against us, firstly significantly reduce the impact of our midfield - supply. Then a focus on backline defense/tactics to limit impact. Side benefit of more inside 50s for them.
Losing Cerra was a blow and Bam Bam being a whisker below best (still good, though) and Fisher just too light when he goes into the midfield has proven problematic (and of course, Pitto). A Carroll or Hayes might need to come in.
I hope Freo don’t destroy us on the scoreboard. If we lose by 3 goals or less, I will be happy with the result. We can’t keep being competitive with what we have available. Better squads have done worse with less injury issues to key players than we have. The football gods will need to do something special to get us over the line against Freo. Not being negative. Just realistic. I will pray and have hope. Just won’t be devastated if we don’t get over the line.
I wouldn't give up too soon, but this is a bit of a perfect storm. Playing at the Dome means a dry deck, which means less ball coming to ground. We were likely a better chance last week going smaller, and playing a more running game with the open spaces and greasy conditions at the MCG. Never the less, its not over until the lady warms up her pipes.
IF I were the MC, I would plan to rove to a losing Ruckman as a start. I think I would play Kemp back to supplement Young, ruck a combination of TDK with either Mirkov, or JSOS, and then look to employ the exact tactics that Hawthorn used against us which is load up the backline and get players on their bike running forward. Shame we don't have Williams for this, but it will have to be Docherty, Saad and Newman doing this, with Plow, and Young doing the stay at home jobs, with JSOS or TDK dropping behind the ball to supplement. Supplement Charlie and Harry forward with Cripps to try and make Freo cover our talls at that end and go with a bunch of runners outside of that. If you can cover the ground well, you are a better chance to get in this week IMHO because when you dont have height, you need run.
A bit of luck, and we can jag a win this weekend. Unfortunately for us, the home ground advantage is not so good, because Freo are coming off the bye, which could help or hurt us. In this case, they might have a few cobwebs and play a looser game, so we might need to capitalise on this early. If we look to run it this week, the lack of conditioning could hurt them.
Is Cerra back this week?
I wouldn't give up too soon, but this is a bit of a perfect storm. Playing at the Dome means a dry deck, which means less ball coming to ground. We were likely a better chance last week going smaller, and playing a more running game with the open spaces and greasy conditions at the MCG. Never the less, its not over until the lady warms up her pipes.
IF I were the MC, I would plan to rove to a losing Ruckman as a start. I think I would play Kemp back to supplement Young, ruck a combination of TDK with either Mirkov, or JSOS, and then look to employ the exact tactics that Hawthorn used against us which is load up the backline and get players on their bike running forward. Shame we don't have Williams for this, but it will have to be Docherty, Saad and Newman doing this, with Plow, and Young doing the stay at home jobs, with JSOS or TDK dropping behind the ball to supplement. Supplement Charlie and Harry forward with Cripps to try and make Freo cover our talls at that end and go with a bunch of runners outside of that. If you can cover the ground well, you are a better chance to get in this week IMHO because when you dont have height, you need run.
A bit of luck, and we can jag a win this weekend. Unfortunately for us, the home ground advantage is not so good, because Freo are coming off the bye, which could help or hurt us. In this case, they might have a few cobwebs and play a looser game, so we might need to capitalise on this early. If we look to run it this week, the lack of conditioning could hurt them.
When are you starting your role with the MC Thry?
You would think that the MC would follow a similar path. However, the members of the MC are paid big bucks to come up with winning combinations and you never know what they’re thinking until the team’s announced or Vossy gives away one selection.
Kemp, in form, would provide run out of defence and his work last game could earn him selection in the firsts. I’d like to see him named in the 22.
I’d also like to see Stocker in the 22 but none of our defenders from the Richmond game should be dropped.
Adding Mirkov to the 22 is an interesting question. I think that his ruckwork has deteriorated as the season has progressed. In the opening rounds he was leaping over his opponent and palming or punching the ball to advantage. He now seems to want to initiate body contact, stop his opponent jumping, and use his reach to bring the ball down to his feet. It’s not working and would give Darcy and Lobb field days. Would that be better than Jack and Crippa in the ruck?
Mirkov only took one mark against Footscray and you’d want more than that from your beanpole.
When are you starting your role with the MC Thry?
You would think that the MC would follow a similar path. However, the members of the MC are paid big bucks to come up with winning combinations and you never know what they’re thinking until the team’s announced or Vossy gives away one selection.
Kemp, in form, would provide run out of defence and his work last game could earn him selection in the firsts. I’d like to see him named in the 22.
I’d also like to see Stocker in the 22 but none of our defenders from the Richmond game should be dropped.
Adding Mirkov to the 22 is an interesting question. I think that his ruckwork has deteriorated as the season has progressed. In the opening rounds he was leaping over his opponent and palming or punching the ball to advantage. He now seems to want to initiate body contact, stop his opponent jumping, and use his reach to bring the ball down to his feet. It’s not working and would give Darcy and Lobb field days. Would that be better than Jack and Crippa in the ruck?
Mirkov only took one mark against Footscray and you’d want more than that from your beanpole.
LOL, Im no football expert, but the one reason to try Mirkov is simply because shock value might be something we can leverage and use to advantage. Might cost Freo a quarter or two before they realise there will be no JSos rucking, and if its working out well, we get the bonus of being able to use TDK and JSOS to stretch the opposition defense.
If it goes poorly it could be a losing tactic, but its worth a crack this week as the alternative is probably not dissimilar anyway.
LOL, Im no football expert, but the one reason to try Mirkov is simply because shock value might be something we can leverage and use to advantage. Might cost Freo a quarter or two before they realise there will be no JSos rucking, and if its working out well, we get the bonus of being able to use TDK and JSOS to stretch the opposition defense.
Personally, the guy you want rucking inside F50 is Cripps, for the reasons I have outlined in previous weeks. Like Hawkins he is highly likely to win a free inside F50 when rucking simply because the opposition will panic and infringe trying to out body him.
I agree that a Mirkov type can be shock value, an unknown unknown always stumps coaches initially, but maybe if we want to maximise that potential it's worth keeping it in hand for something we really need, like if we make a final and are still in this ruck depleted situation!
When are you starting your role with the MC Thry?
You would think that the MC would follow a similar path. However, the members of the MC are paid big bucks to come up with winning combinations and you never know what they’re thinking until the team’s announced or Vossy gives away one selection.
Kemp, in form, would provide run out of defence and his work last game could earn him selection in the firsts. I’d like to see him named in the 22.
I’d also like to see Stocker in the 22 but none of our defenders from the Richmond game should be dropped.
Adding Mirkov to the 22 is an interesting question. I think that his ruckwork has deteriorated as the season has progressed. In the opening rounds he was leaping over his opponent and palming or punching the ball to advantage. He now seems to want to initiate body contact, stop his opponent jumping, and use his reach to bring the ball down to his feet. It’s not working and would give Darcy and Lobb field days. Would that be better than Jack and Crippa in the ruck?
Mirkov only took one mark against Footscray and you’d want more than that from your beanpole.
Re Mirkov: Could be to instruction from Cruzer or some injury that he can play with but not enough to keep him out?
Re Mirkov: Could be to instruction from Cruzer or some injury that he can play with but not enough to keep him out?
Yes, he missed a game with an ankle injury and I was thinking along the same lines. However, every now and again he goes back to his old ways and jumps over his opponent :-\
LOL, Im no football expert, but the one reason to try Mirkov is simply because shock value might be something we can leverage and use to advantage. Might cost Freo a quarter or two before they realise there will be no JSos rucking, and if its working out well, we get the bonus of being able to use TDK and JSOS to stretch the opposition defense.
If it goes poorly it could be a losing tactic, but its worth a crack this week as the alternative is probably not dissimilar anyway.
Mirkov would be giving away 8kg to Darcy but I guess that's not a lot when you're 104kg. Mirkov and Lobb are roughly the same size but it would be Mirkov's lack of experience and footy smarts that would let him down; Darcy and Lobb would be able to out position him without too much trouble. However, if he gives a contest it would free up Silvagni and Cripps to focus on their primary roles.
It's definitely worth a try.
I do hope we are reminding the AFL about what happened to Pitto last time we played Freo, before Darcy wrecks another Carlton player!
Perhaps if Darcy hasn't got eyes on the ball someone should poke him in the eye, accidentally of course, like Lynch did to Saad front on without penalty again!
Confirmed in the press here today that Taberner will play one more week at least in the WAFL....so that helps I guess. Safe to assume then that Logue will stay forward along with Lobb. Young will obviously get Lobb and then hope that Kemp or Docherty can play on Logue.
Switkowski ripped us last time too and he's not playing....he's extremely dangerous. But Frederick comes back in.....Saad probably gets him purely on the pace factor? Schultz is also dangerous and very strong.....I'd have Stocker back in to play on him.
Confirmed in the press here today that Taberner will play one more week at least in the WAFL....so that helps I guess. Safe to assume then that Logue will stay forward along with Lobb. Young will obviously get Lobb and then hope that Kemp or Docherty can play on Logue.
Switkowski ripped us last time too and he's not playing....he's extremely dangerous. But Frederick comes back in.....Saad probably gets him purely on the pace factor? Schultz is also dangerous and very strong.....I'd have Stocker back in to play on him.
Schultz must have had Covid last game as no one went near him and he got goals from being on his own. He needs someone sticking close so he doesn't get easy looks at goal as he is a good set shot.
Taberner not playing is a big one - Logue is average at best. I am more worried about who gets Fyfe when he goes forward....
Schultz must have had Covid last game as no one went near him and he got goals from being on his own. He needs someone sticking close so he doesn't get easy looks at goal as he is a good set shot.
Boyd??
I am more worried about who gets Fyfe when he goes forward....
SOS
SOS
We might need two of him given he will have to play forward, ruck and maybe pick up Fyfe, hopefully Fyfe is a bit tired from his first up game and lacks a bit of conditioning.
I think Hewett/Kennedy might get a go at Fyfe onball and Plowman would get the job when he rests down forward...
It was interesting listening to Harry on the wireless. Apart from discussing his rushed shot at goal, he spoke about the importance of maintaining the team structure; someone will be brought in to replace Sam Durdin, everyone else will continue in the same role.
It was interesting listening to Harry on the wireless. Apart from discussing his rushed shot at goal, he spoke about the importance of maintaining the team structure; someone will be brought in to replace Sam Durdin, everyone else will continue in the same role.
Obviously, someone will be brought in. The million dollar question is who? I'd say the cupboard is bare, but i think its more like the shelves have been panic bought by everyone else and it doesn't matter which store we look in, there is nothing available.
We might need two of him given he will have to play forward, ruck and maybe pick up Fyfe, hopefully Fyfe is a bit tired from his first up game and lacks a bit of conditioning.
I think Hewett/Kennedy might get a go at Fyfe onball and Plowman would get the job when he rests down forward...
Ideally I would love to see the two big bulls (Fyfe and Crippa) go head to head.
Obviously, someone will be brought in. The million dollar question is who? I'd say the cupboard is bare, but i think its more like the shelves have been panic bought by everyone else and it doesn't matter which store we look in, there is nothing available.
Freo’s forward line is relatively short with really only Lobb, and Darcy when he rests forward, having the size to trouble our defence.
To me, it’s a toss up between Stocker and Kemp. I favour the latter because he’s probably better equipped to keep Fyffe quiet. Stocker is probably better able to go with Freo’s small forwards but that’s not beyond Kemp either.
Dockers kicked our butts last time and we were playing better footy.
Freo by 50.
Dockers kicked our butts last time and we were playing better footy.
Freo by 50.
That would be a terrible result. I hope you are wrong. Probably would have thought 20 to 30 myself.
The dockers played about as well as they could have last time and aren't exactly showing the same blistering form either.
Dockers kicked our butts last time and we were playing better footy.
Freo by 50.
Ross Lyon on Footy Class agrees with you, says Freo will smash us, reckon though Ross might have his old Freo coaches hat on and be slightly smarting still over not being made coach.
Dockers kicked our butts last time and we were playing better footy.
Freo by 50.
Last time it was in Perth, we had no Jack and Matt Kennedy, lost Pittonet 15 minutes in, and McKay was hobbled for the last 3 quarters..
They will not have Taberner and Switkowski from then, although they have gained Fyfe.
We may not get the chocolates, but it won't be 50.
I dont think we will win, we are at that point where we need hang on best we can until we get troops back.
I wouldn't be writing us off. The resilience, camaraderie, game plan and culture of this group should not be underestimated.
I wouldn't be writing us off. The resilience, camaraderie, game plan and culture of this group should not be underestimated.
Agreed.
My only concern is that in recent weeks we do not seem as healthy as some may think, not just in those areas specifically affected, but across the board, a season of interruptions to the list is starting to take it's toll!
Agreed.
My only concern is that in recent weeks we do not seem as healthy as some may think, not just in those areas specifically affected, but across the board, a season of interruptions to the list is starting to take it's toll!
Yep, but recent interviews with club folks indicate that they are very aware of these issues and that they are being addressed. Here's hoping ;D ;D
I wouldn't be writing us off. The resilience, camaraderie, game plan and culture of this group should not be underestimated.
After the last several seasons, it's easy to fall into the "writing us off" trap.
We will be under extreme pressure going into the game missing a key defender and a ruckman but I will be heading off to Darklands feeling quietly confident 8)
In: Josh Honey, Brodie Kemp
Out: Sam Durdin (knee), Jack Martin (calf), Lachie Fogarty
In: Josh Honey, Brodie Kemp
Out: Sam Durdin (knee), Jack Martin (calf), Lachie Fogarty
Kemps turn to get injured this week.
He'll have his work cut out on Taberner.
And Martin injured.....again. His calf muscles must have the consistency of Glad Wrap.
Is Taberner playing?
Is Taberner playing?
Just checked, he has been named off the bench.
Looking at the changes, we’re a better side this week than last week and If TDK can master sitting a kick behind the play, we should hold up.
Honey gives us the explosive pace and X factor that we’ve been sadly missing - very pleased to see him in the side
Good luck to Kemp also
That should be it for Fogarty surely.
I can't tell you if he did anything last week.
No Walters for them. He always worries me regardless of his form so I’m happy he’s not there.
That should be it for Fogarty surely.
I can't tell you if he did anything last week.
He was subbed on with a few minutes to go, then backed up with BOG in the magoos.
Freo playing 3 tall fwds according to Longmuir. With boof head Darcy resting fwd as well as Fyfe. Under the roof that will stretch our short defence.
Which has held up remarkably to date.
Aside the i50 marking advantage,
Fredericks will trouble us i think. This will come down to our mids winning the territory battle and fwds keeping it there. Freo by 19
Go Blues
Don't bet on Taberner playing.
Don't bet on Taberner playing.
We will know well before. They won't put him on a plane if he's not playing.
Luke Ryan doubtful with illness....
We can win this fer sure.
There is one thing that has come out of the 2022 season so far, the impact of the last two years, all the pandemic issues, the changes to the rules and the changes to the way clubs have to train and travel now, nothing is certain things are more variable.
We will know well before. They won't put him on a plane if he's not playing.
Photo @FFC Taberner departing Perth Thursday
There is always a chance a player travels and doesn't come up.
There is always a chance a player travels and doesn't come up.
They toyed with the idea of giving him another week in the WAFL to control his minutes and avoiding aggrevating his back sitting on a plane to Melbourne. If he got on the plane he is good to go.
They toyed with the idea of giving him another week in the WAFL to control his minutes and avoiding aggrevating his back sitting on a plane to Melbourne. If he got on the plane he is good to go.
Perhaps the plane ride aggravates it?
They toyed with the idea of giving him another week in the WAFL to control his minutes and avoiding aggravating his back sitting on a plane to Melbourne. If he got on the plane he is good to go.
Agree, they know even at 80% he'll trouble our undersized backline. He'll play and we need to deal with him, Lobb and whoever else wanders down forward. If our midfield can give us the ascendency then we'll give them similar headaches down our forward line as there aren't too many backlines that can handle Mackay and Curnow when they're getting plenty of opportunities.
Agree, they know even at 80% he'll trouble our undersized backline. He'll play and we need to deal with him, Lobb and whoever else wanders down forward. If our midfield can give us the ascendency then we'll give them similar headaches down our forward line as there aren't too many backlines that can handle Mackay and Curnow when they're getting plenty of opportunities.
Spot on. So much is dependent on our mids. They must bring 120 minutes of heat/toughness at the contest.
All those I50s we surrendered last week had very little to do with our six standing in the D50, and almost everything to do with the 12 others on the field watching it happen!
I'll be very surprised if a Voss coached team suffers that sort of outcome two weeks running, the way that result unfolded last week is the antithesis of the way Voss played, he never surrendered, he was always the last man standing almost to his own detriment!
When an opposition has +70 I50s, it has zero to do with the KPDs! ;)
Motlop sub. Didn't see much from him in the VFL last week.
Motlop sub. Didn't see much from him in the VFL last week.
Officially baffled. I did think to myself, after seeing Motlop named as an emergency... why? So I thought that perhaps the worst performed of the emergencies (in last week's Magoos) will be the medi-sub. Voila.
Owies out, Motlop in.
Setters sub
Owies injured in warm-up
Can't take a trick 😡
Motlop in based on 2s form equates to bottom of the barrel strategy. Prove us wrong young fella
Darcy already no eyes on the ball running straight at TDK at ball ups.