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Should we seriously consider adopting Sharia law in Australia?

Yes and kill the infidels.
[ 0 ] (0%)
Yes and have mercy on the infidels.
[ 0 ] (0%)
Yes and spare the women and children of the infidels.
[ 0 ] (0%)
No because Australians are so cool they realise religion is a bunch of crap.
[ 3 ] (25%)
No because Australians know that women matter more than beards and beheading innocent people.
[ 9 ] (75%)

Total Members Voted: 11

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Re: Rock the Casbah

Reply #30 –
True, but the KKK also chose to interpret the Old Testament literally. And many Fundamentalist Christians were and are eerily quiet in terms of KKK spruikings (or they give lip service).

Ultimately, I suspect, terrorism (in whatever form) comes down to any lunatic fringe with a gripe, angry and a dash mentally ill getting enough numbers and resources together.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #31 –
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Did you see the press conference with Ken Lay and the two Sheiks (not ours) LR?

The Sheik who spoke articulately explained how ISIS/ISIL is the enemy of Muslims.

can you please link it?

I haven't tracked down the video yet LR but this should provide you with an idea of what was said:

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2014/s4095202.htm?site=melbourne

One of Sheik Abdul Azim's best responses was along the lines of young Muslims being influenced by Sheik Google.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #32 –
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KKK is a violent off shoot of an extreme baptist sect in the south of America. Virtually all Christian groups denounced the KKK at the time of their inception and continue to do so today.

Today's KKK is far removed from the original organization.  In fact there isn't one KKK, just several pathetic groups of racist, white supremacist neo-nazis.

While I think that the question about whether each group is representative of the religions they claim to represent is reasonable, it is an over-simplification.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #33 –
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KKK is a violent off shoot of an extreme baptist sect in the south of America. Virtually all Christian groups denounced the KKK at the time of their inception and continue to do so today.

Today's KKK is far removed from the original organization.  In fact there isn't one KKK, just several pathetic groups of racist, white supremacist neo-nazis.

While I think that the question about whether each group is representative of the religions they claim to represent, it is an over-simplification.

ISIS is absolutely representative of Islam.... depending on gow you choose to interpret it and live by it.

ISIS are invoking instructions that they believe is the direct word of God as found in the Koran.




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Reply #34 –
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ISIS is no more representative of Muslims than the KKK is representative of Christians.
Also Baggers, not sure it is great comparison. While yes they are both extremist groups ISIS reflects are wider struggle between the largest schism in Islam - Sunni v Shia (ISIS are Sunni).

You have to be a bit careful here too Lance.
ISIS may be Sunni but they're hardly representative of all Sunni Muslims and in fact many Sunni dominated nations are opposed to them.

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Reply #35 –
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KKK is a violent off shoot of an extreme baptist sect in the south of America. Virtually all Christian groups denounced the KKK at the time of their inception and continue to do so today.

Today's KKK is far removed from the original organization.  In fact there isn't one KKK, just several pathetic groups of racist, white supremacist neo-nazis.

While I think that the question about whether each group is representative of the religions they claim to represent, it is an over-simplification.

ISIS is absolutely representative of Islam.... depending on gow you choose to interpret it and live by it.

ISIS are invoking instructions that they believe is the direct word of God as found in the Koran.

Not according the Sheik Abdul Azim who says that ISIS/ISIL is the enemy of Islam.  99% of the people they kill are Muslims.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #36 –
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ISIS is no more representative of Muslims than the KKK is representative of Christians.
Also Baggers, not sure it is great comparison. While yes they are both extremist groups ISIS reflects are wider struggle between the largest schism in Islam - Sunni v Shia (ISIS are Sunni).

You have to be a bit careful here too Lance.
ISIS may be Sunni but they're hardly representative of all Sunni Muslims and in fact many Sunni dominated nations are opposed to them.

True, of course not all Sunni's are ISIS supporters. Probably could have articulated that one better.

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Reply #37 –
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Not according the Sheik Abdul Azim who says that ISIS/ISIL is the enemy of Islam.  99% of the people they kill are Muslims.

That maybe the case DJC but they are still using parts of the Koran as a basis for the killing to meet their ends.

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Reply #38 –
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ISIS is absolutely representative of Islam.... depending on gow you choose to interpret it and live by it.

ISIS are invoking instructions that they believe is the direct word of God as found in the Koran.


Well they've got you fooled at least. :P
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

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Reply #39 –
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ISIS is absolutely representative of Islam.... depending on gow you choose to interpret it and live by it.

ISIS are invoking instructions that they believe is the direct word of God as found in the Koran.


Well they've got you fooled at least. :P

how so?

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Reply #40 –
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Not according the Sheik Abdul Azim who says that ISIS/ISIL is the enemy of Islam.  99% of the people they kill are Muslims.

That maybe the case DJC but they are still using parts of the Koran as a basis for the killing to meet their ends.

No they're not LR.  They rely on an interpretation or corruption of the Koran rather than what is written.  A bit like the right to lifers who use the Bible to justify killing folk at fertility centres.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #41 –
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Not according the Sheik Abdul Azim who says that ISIS/ISIL is the enemy of Islam.  99% of the people they kill are Muslims.

That maybe the case DJC but they are still using parts of the Koran as a basis for the killing to meet their ends.

No they're not LR.  They rely on an interpretation or corruption of the Koran rather than what is written.  A bit like the right to lifers who use the Bible to justify killing folk at fertility centres.

I don't know how you can misinterpret the koran.

It is very succinct and to the point.

What ISIS and many other Islamist extremists do is take the Koran as the literal word of God as written by Mohammed in the 7th century.
And if that is what you are doing then it is very hard to misinterpret because it is all there in front of you.

Re: Rock the Casbah

Reply #42 –
You seem to know a lot LR. Can you show a few examples or 'parts' from the Koran which are the basis for their brutal regime?
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

Re: Rock the Casbah

Reply #43 –
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You seem to know a lot LR. Can you show a few examples or 'parts' from the Koran which are the basis for their brutal regime?

PI2C, I don't want to go posting parts of the Koran as I fear it will be disrespectful.

I know I will be pilloried for not quoting it but I suggest you read it yourself and make up your own mind.


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Reply #44 –
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Not according the Sheik Abdul Azim who says that ISIS/ISIL is the enemy of Islam.  99% of the people they kill are Muslims.

That maybe the case DJC but they are still using parts of the Koran as a basis for the killing to meet their ends.

No they're not LR.  They rely on an interpretation or corruption of the Koran rather than what is written.  A bit like the right to lifers who use the Bible to justify killing folk at fertility centres.

I don't know how you can misinterpret the koran.

It is very succinct and to the point.

What ISIS and many other Islamist extremists do is take the Koran as the literal word of God as written by Mohammed in the 7th century.
And if that is what you are doing then it is very hard to misinterpret because it is all there in front of you.

Not correct LR.  In the same way that Christian sects place their own interpretation on what appears in the Christian Bible, Muslim sects and interpret what's written in the Koran; and that's the mainstream sects rather than the fundamentalists.  No document written more than 1000 years ago can accommodate 21st century technology, mobility, communications, etc and the priests, imans and whatever determine how their followers should behave.

Islam is actually a religion based on tolerance and the Middle East used to be notable for the diversity of religions practiced there.  That has changed dramatically in the last decade or so.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball