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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Baggers on
Really liked Vossy's media conference. No excuses. Nailed the reasons - connection and lack of pro-activeness. He slammed shut the door on injuries as an excuse. Good.

I've banged on about being the hunters -- a mindset -- and that was low, except for the backline... most of them go hard and strong. The rest tried hard; lots of effort but confident, mongrel intensity was just not there... the kind of intensity needed to intimidate the opposition. The Bluebagger spirit evaporated last night. It wasn't us out there.

I felt for the backline... little defensive intensity from most of the mids. Midfield/forward line connection - non-existent... get your acts together relevant coaches - you are failing to instill ruthless intensity at the contest into your charges. As for the game-day strategic coach - obviously went home at qtr time once the Fluffy Ducks countered his strategies.

Easily broken tackles, dropped marks, looking tired... how can that be with not even half the season played? When that uncompromising determination is missing between the lugholes, you look slow, tired, inconsistent and lacking spirit.

Disappointed? Yep. Giving up on going deep into September? Not even a little bit. 100% confidence in Vossy... and Sammy. Perhaps some other coaches are letting down Vossy and the players. These coaches received some pretty damning feedback from the Fluffy Ducks. Leadership?
I like what I heard from Voss, he knows what the problems are and wasnt offering excuses.....the Swans stepped up the pressure and we couldnt go with them and if your midfield is being overwhelmed then its hard for your defense to stem the flow especially on a one kick to the goal square ground like the SCG.
I would probably like to see a bit more innovative thinking when we are being swamped like in the 3rd quarter, its fine leaving all the pieces where they are when the game is close and backing your players in to win the day but when the opposition are all over you its time to make some serious changes and move the magnets like Collingwood under McRae do well to get back into games.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by laj -
Quote from: pinot on
It has been a tough run for sure but two rucks and three small forwards taking run run away from the middle has been a miserable failure and needs to take ownership. I wont trust the guy with this list if he doesn't.

That's what we had last year when we were killing it. We won 15 from 17 at one stage across the 2 seasons, so can't be too bad. Difference missing Martin, Motlop and Fogarty up forward. Durdin and Fantasia isn't quite the same.

So might be something else. Last night was attitude and effort. Maybe mentally the affect of a 5th consecutive blockbuster with half a side. Dunno. Previous 4 games we went 2-2 against the best with half a side out.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Micky0 -
Maybe not learning how to properly put teams away time and again means we’re using all our gas trying to hold on after getting to comfortable leads.  When they start getting closer the panic sets in and structure goes out the door meaning we run around expending all this energy til the very end.

Not once have we gone on and torched the oppo when we’ve dominated in the past few seasons.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Baggers -
Really liked Vossy's media conference. No excuses. Nailed the reasons - connection and lack of pro-activeness. He slammed shut the door on injuries as an excuse. Good.

I've banged on about being the hunters -- a mindset -- and that was low, except for the backline... most of them go hard and strong. The rest tried hard; lots of effort but confident, mongrel intensity was just not there... the kind of intensity needed to intimidate the opposition. The Bluebagger spirit evaporated last night. It wasn't us out there.

I felt for the backline... little defensive intensity from most of the mids. Midfield/forward line connection - non-existent... get your acts together relevant coaches - you are failing to instill ruthless intensity at the contest into your charges. As for the game-day strategic coach - obviously went home at qtr time once the Fluffy Ducks countered his strategies.

Easily broken tackles, dropped marks, looking tired... how can that be with not even half the season played? When that uncompromising determination is missing between the lugholes, you look slow, tired, inconsistent and lacking spirit.

Disappointed? Yep. Giving up on going deep into September? Not even a little bit. 100% confidence in Vossy... and Sammy. Perhaps some other coaches are letting down Vossy and the players. These coaches received some pretty damning feedback from the Fluffy Ducks. Leadership?
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Ladies Lounge / Re: VFLW 2024
Last post by crashlander -
The girls play Willi at Will at 10:00
This week's line-up:

B: Matilda Fitzgerald (80)  Asha Turner-Funk (53)
HB:  Paige Duffy (68)  Layla Prince (58)  Steph Demeo (66)
C:  Hannah Scott (79)  Izzy Khoury (52)  Hannah Bowey (64)
HF:  Eliza Wood (50)  Georgia Tair (57)  Evie Lee (71)
F:  Amy Trindade (62)  Sophie McCarthy (54) 
FOLL:  Emily Hurley (61)  Isla Baldwin (70)  Simone Mooney (78
INT:  Mel Staunton (55)  Katie Prendergast (77)  Madison Katerelos (69)  Jemmika Douglas (75)  Alexis Gregor (67)

EMG: Natasha Phipps (74)  Danika Di Santo (76)  Sasha Pearce (73)

In: Jemmika Douglas, Paige Duffy, Alexis Gregor

Out: Danika Di Santo, Isabella Parnell, Jemma Stokes
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: Thryleon on
I think you boys are confusing getting blown away by a team in peak physical form, fitness with a team thats been banged up, the boys were willing we just didnt have the wheels to go with them and got cut up once the swans running game got going.  The Swans destroyed gws not long ago in similar fashion.

When you're slow and spemding your chips trying to go quick, the inside work eventually drops off because you're gassed.  Last night wasn't about effort, or even desire.  The desire was there, if it wasn't the first quarter doesn't happen where we go 4 goals up.  The consistency is what's missing, and some capability.
Yep
Consistency of effort and cohesion between lines comes from a settled team playing together week out and week in.
Without it you get uncertainty.
There were some cringeworthy moments last night- silly  handpasses to players under pressure , indecision about leaving your man to go to a contest, hesitation etc.
They are symptoms of a team struggling without normal structures.
Swans were able to man up on our key playmakers because there were so many others causing them no grief at all.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by PaulP -
I agree Thry. The boys are professional athletes. They have pride in their performance and they want to do well. They have the glare of the entire AFL community and are answerable to coaches, team mates etc. I'm not sure they can get away with being lazy, even if they wanted to. It's just not logical to think that.

Folks don't think that Voss can spot a half arsed effort a mile out ?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Thryleon -
I think you boys are confusing getting blown away by a team in peak physical form, fitness with a team thats been banged up, the boys were willing we just didnt have the wheels to go with them and got cut up once the swans running game got going.  The Swans destroyed gws not long ago in similar fashion.

When you're slow and spemding your chips trying to go quick, the inside work eventually drops off because you're gassed.  Last night wasn't about effort, or even desire.  The desire was there, if it wasn't the first quarter doesn't happen where we go 4 goals up.  The consistency is what's missing, and some capability.