Bit of perspective...Essendon would have the softest mids in the comp...Parish, Merrett, Zaharakis, Heppell.......it was more like the Von Trapps menacing the Brady Bunch.....you take Cripps out of our midfield and we would have come back to the field in a real hurry. Bombers are not the old Sheedy bombers anymore...not much fight or spite.......Goddard didnt bother to fight back vs Lamb at all, he is over it and I expect a media career at the end of season for him. We won the game but still have plenty of problems, a lot of our players looked good vs feeble opposition IMO.....you look at BomberBlitz and the common theme was weak hearted effort from the EFC....
Generally agree EB. I'm a little conflicted in my feelings about this win. Sure it's a win, and 4 points is 4 points, and it's good on that front. And it might be the only win we get this season.
But the opposition is in all sorts IMO, so in some ways it feels like a Pyrrhic victory.
I guess we enjoy the win but not get too carried away. We did manage to bully the Bummers in a way that won't be possible v most other teams. Good morale booster nevertheless.
So you avoided the 'club knows best' question in regards to salary cap. Nice.
The point of including Daisys comments was to point out a side that you personally do not see. There are plenty of people who see things that you do not see. Doesn't make them right, or wrong, but spend enough time in the outer and you will hear every single player being cursed out by 'fans'. Some of them justified, many not. Are these people 'normal', depends on your position at the time. Its all relative.
Thanks for the lesson in postmodernism - much appreciated.
At no point did I say the club was infallible - what I said was the club (any club) is club is filled with professional people who know more about football and running a football club than the punters. A position which I consider to be accurate. Even if, as we saw in the Eliot era, the club was run by dinosaurs who achieved success under an old system, and were unable or unwilling to adopt to a new system. Did the club make bad decisions at the time ? Of course. Should we hand over the reins to amateurs because they know cheating is dodgy ? No thanks.
I was more vociferous than just about anyone in respect of sacking Ratts - I thought it was a sh1t decision then, and nothing that's happened since has caused me to change my mind. Do I know more than the club ? Is it a case of Paully knows best, and the club is full of numb nuts ?
The club does know best, but that doesn't mean they are not capable of stuff ups. Some people might believe that there is a yawning chasm between success and failure, that the distance between 1st and 18th is enormous. I think it's much closer than most people think.
So we can't use Daisy Thomas' evaluation of a player because he isn't a supporter.
Yet, you go on to say that the club knows best.
No comment about the salary cap breaches i threw in there? Pretty sure supporters would know its not the right way to run a club.
You stated that no CFC player would be universally loved, then include as "evidence" for this fact comments made by Thomas wrt CC ?
The issue of whether to play by the rules or not is vexed and one that constantly appears in various guises on here. I've lost count of how many posts on here I've read about how we are now a club of goody two shoes, whilst other clubs get away with blue murder because they don't play by the rules. So now that we are honest, law abiding citizens, does that make us well run ? Should we as supporters tell the club we know best because other clubs are rorting the system and gaining an advantage ? Do clubs other than us "know best ?"
Daisy Thomas was on TFS last night and called Curnowfides dumb "and he wouldn't mind me saying that either". He said he has the nickname reindeer because he just gallops around without any idea on what he is going to do. He also said that if his teammates have no idea what he is going to do, how are the opposition supposed to work it out.
So, i guarantee you there are members who dislike his laissez faire approach.
I've got a mad Geelong member mate of mine who absolutely HATED Stevie J, basically for the same reason.
Which is the point, members will not agree. So should they be listened too?
Your contention that the club ALWAYS knows best in relation to supporters can be disproven. Sydney Swans were looking for a coach. They had (unofficially?) signed Terry Wallace as coach, but due to HUGE supporter backlash and support for another candidate the club was forced to change their mind and go with the majority. End result, Paul Roos gets signed and wins them their first flag in 73 years. Club was wrong.
I'm sure there are plenty of other examples, but none quite so poignant as that.
Club SHOULD know whats best, but to just assume they do could leave you following a club that has spent the better part of 2 decades rebuilding after it got itself into salary cap issues.
I'm not really sure how you can quote Daisy Thomas (who as far as I can tell is a player, not a supporter) and from that conclude that some supporters may think CC is laissez faire, and therefore not like it ?
The Swans supporter base voted for Roos out of love and loyalty, not football knowledge. Some coaches make it work at one club and not others. Wallace may have netted the Swans 2 or 3 flags, or 2 or 3 spoons. We will never know. The point is that the clubs spend a lot more time and effort in making these decisions, and make them with access to a wealth of knowledge that supporters can only dream of. Us humans are unpredictable buggers. Trying to select the right human for a particular task will never have a 100% success rate. But the right systems, methods and processes are critical. Otherwise we end up with the club equivalent of the car Homer Simpson designed.
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