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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
I'll quantify it.

118 deaths per million. Pick a country of any significance, India's done way better.

#120 in the 'rankings'.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

All that in a poor country with many extremely high density populations.

And that's before the classification of deaths fudge that seems prevalent globally.....
China even better at 3 deaths per million, well done China lol.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
Thought the same thing, GTC.

How come this is a focus ...NOW! Why are we STILL so damn reactive? Is there anyone in the place with vision, initiative and foresight - in other words, prepare the side to be a ruthless team before the season starts. Ah, yes, ruthless... we talk it better than anyone, but do the players know what it REALLY means to be ruthless? The sacrifices? The mongrel persistence? The uncompromising attitude to take into every single contest? The powerful standards to uphold as if it were your life depended on it? Sheesh... well, better late than never, and, as ever, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating over an extended period. But, it does start with this Sunday. Here's hoping. I'll be watching with a near exhausted optimism.
Indeed Ol Boy, why? Why, why, why? The same things over and over again ever year, why?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
You can tell Teague is over weak non aggressive performers who want to play pretty boy football only but wont get their hands dirty and wants more mongrel in the backline.
Think he is getting the message that 22 Von Trapp kids wont get it done and we need some players who will bleed for the jumper.
Good luck to the kid and hope we have found a diamond in the rough.
Teague was seen slapping the players with wet lettuce leaves at trying yesterday, should fire them up for Sundays game. Mate he is responsible for the Von Trapp kids non agressive performance. He's had a whole pre season to drum aggressiveness into them and they dish up that v the Filth? And on the Thurs before the next game, he is still hammering them about training with intent? His message aint getting through it seems.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood
Should have added we lack that leader down back to organize such team defense....the good Carlton teams always had your Peter Dean/Michael Jamison types similar to Grimes who could work it out on field.
Poor Doc has had a bad run with injury /illness and isnt playing with any confidence to do that and a few things have transpired against us like they usually do when you are a mid pack team.


I heard a person on radio yesterday say Plowman is the general down  back for us.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
Ch7 showed Coach Teague roasting the players at training for not training with intent. Smashed em also at the Monday review apparently. I'd imagine the club Psychs will be busy this week with players as that's not the done thing anymore with the new generation.
What worries me (doesn't surprise me though) is its Thurs training and they still havent responded to last weeks showing or trained to the expectations fo the coach.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
Our selection committee is very conservative, although a number of players deserve the chop owing to poor defensive pressure from previous outings.

SOJ, Betts & Parks for Martin, Fisher and Willo. Though if we were fair-dinkum, Casboult would also get the chop for, maybe a Kennedy.




Nah they're all playing well, just down on luck.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
If you look at the numbers, and you look at Champion Data, the imputation is quite clear that the defensive problems are further up the ground. Plowman won't be dropped for the Freo game, and you have to ask why. Betts is being touted as an "in" and you have to ask why. Just my 2 cents.
Matthew Lloyd going through exactly what I posted on FC now!

He has defenders that are winners, losers and jury is out

Winners (smart defenders who coped with rule changes)
Howe
Grimes
Moore
May

Losers (poor defenders who didn't cope with rule changes)
Plowman
Davis
Kolodjashnij
Gardner
Hartigan

Jury's Out (50/50)
Alir
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
Think its been in the media recently and on this forum that apart from Weitering and Jones our other defenders dont defend very well. We seem to have got obsessed with attack and run from defense and forgotten all about a defenders primary role.
Saad is the only one capable of doing both jobs IMO.  Docherty, Plowman and Williamson couldnt guard an elephant if it was trapped in a telephone box...
We can blame mids not getting back but those three players have been poor in both games and I think the likes of Newman, Stocker and even new boy Parks might be worth a try.
You look at Richmond and their mids really dont get back or chase that hard either, they just have boring defenders like Grimes, Astbury, Balta, Vlastuin and Broad who defend well...
EB I just read this and you are spot on, I posted just then about defenders not knowing how to defend.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
Daniel Hoyne and David King were both pretty clear on this. No defence can do much when the ball comes in so effortlessly.  I don't think they blame Plowman, and they're right, and I think the coaches will see it that way as well.
Thats just an excuse for defenders who don't know how to defend and we are full to pussy's bow of them. Midfield dominance isn't a new thing, ball has been streaming down the ground for eons, once upon a time there were (and we had plenty of them) defenders who could read the play coming their way and they could position themselves to get a fist in or heaven forbid, mark the thing. Like our team in general, our defenders are often asleep at the wheel because they thinking about more than beating, or stopping, their opponent. The good defenders don't worry about cheap possessions or getting involved in an attacking chain, they worry about making sure their man doesn't get a kick or has a very tough day at the office. I watched Plowman live last week and he was deadset asleep giving his opponent meters every single time. You can't see it on TV, it happens way before the cameras capture the ball about to be marked by the fwd. I understand team defence and mids have to do more when they don't have the footy, but as Bill Belichick says, "do your job". Plowman, SPS, Doc just don't do theirs way too often.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
6 months ago I would've put my house on Cripps staying at Carlton for the entirety of his career.....now, I'm not so sure. And who could begrudge him really? He's busted his @rse and carried the club for years without too much meaningful support....he's starved of success. If he decides to go, then hopefully it's similar to us and the Eagles when Judd chose Carlton....agreement was reached in a way and the Eagles respected his decision, but still drove a hard bargain.

And the situation with his partner only complicates it and he's totally within his rights to do what's best for him and her....some of that online stuff is just despicable.

That all said, Cripps will be giving it his all this week and every week for the club....you wouldn't expect anything less. It's about time a few others put their bodies on the line as well.

IN: McDonald, Betts, Kennedy, Stocker
OUT: Casboult, Martin, Fisher, Setterfield

Plowman probably survives because of the smaller Freo forward line. And Murphy probably only survives because of Martin going out.

If Silvagni is fit, then bring him in as well and probably drop Newnes....Silvagni can play off a wing and push into the middle and the forward line.
SOS was only meant to be a week, seems to have trained well so should play and Newnes should be dropped.
I'd also drop Plow, he was totally terrible last week (and the week before really). The MC must make statements no matter if you are the captain or a rookie. We NEED to find the right mix who will perform for 4 qtrs every week. No more 15 minute cameos.