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Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #45 –
Quote from: PaulP on
Yes, it's a hard sell, the slow rebuild. Clearly media and certain supporters (and maybe others) are getting very fidgety.

It's a spectrum thing.
At the start we had strong views 'for and against' the process and a centre who were prepared to see where it was heading.

You'll get folks who are naysayers from the start.
I'll put my hand up for that.
(Again I'll state....that's not anti Bolton, it's anti process)

You'll also get folks that will 'stick fat' until there is success or ashes.

The problem for a club occurs when you start to lose the centre…
I have a feeling that's what's happening now and the only way to prevent that is not through honorable losses but by winning games.

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #46 –
Quote from: Lods on
The problem for a club occurs when you start to lose the centre…
I have a feeling that's what's happening now and the only way to prevent that is not through honorable losses but by winning games.

If we started to play ugly but potentially winning football again, the media would almost certainly revert to bashing us, and what would happen around memberships given that ugly losses are far more memorable to ugly wins!

"Well we won, but it was ugly.........!"

"That's the worst loss I've ever seen, crap skills an ugly game plan and never looked like winning..........my kids has quit the club!"
The Force Awakens!

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #47 –
I'd take an ugly win or two over last weeks result.

Bugger the media....them pumping us up for this year's efforts disappeared in a cloud of dust as soon as we went off the rails.

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #48 –
Quote from: Lods on
Bugger the media....them pumping us up for this year's efforts disappeared in a cloud of dust as soon as we went off the rails.

I agree, we are far too sensitive to it and respectful of the ambulance chasers, I feel many in our club Admin fear the media.

Dealing with them was the only positive MM brought to the club!
The Force Awakens!

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #49 –
Quote from: LP on
I agree, we are far too sensitive to it and respectful of the ambulance chasers, I feel many in our club Admin fear the media.

Dealing with them was the only positive MM brought to the club!

If we didn't sack Malthouse we would be playing finals by now.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #51 –
Quote from: PaulP on
Yes, it's a hard sell, the slow rebuild. Clearly media and certain supporters (and maybe others) are getting very fidgety.

Slow rebuild doesn't mean you are 4 from 41 4th year in. Slow rebuild means progressing up the ladder by the 4th year. Any idiot, even those of the highest order, knows that. Be unacceptable in a 2nd year, let alone a 4th. At some point you expect progress. where is it.

Wonder how many people thought we'd be 1-8 this year? Judd said last night he didn't see us at 1-8 at this stage. No one at the club, or anywhere else, expected Adelaide to be getting pick 1. Carey said last night he's just about to give up on Bolton, and he has been saying how talented our young list is. Said what we are producing is unacceptable.

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #52 –
After Round 10

2016

Goals 105 Behinds 100
Percentage 81 % (points for 730 - against 901)

2017
Goals 107 Behinds 86
Percentage 78.9 % (points for 728 against 923)

2018

Goals-93 Behinds - 94
Percentage 63.2 % (For- 652, Against- 1032)

2019
(Target 2018-Goals 192- Behinds 201- For 1353)
Goals-102 Behinds- 93 
Percentage 76.7% (For- 705, Against- 919)


Goalkickers
((Target 2018- Charlie Curnow 34-20 -224)

2017

Casboult 17
Wright 13
Silvagni 8
Gibbs 8

2018

Curnow 14
McKay 12
Casboult 11
Wright 11
Fisher- 7

2019
McKay 17.14
McGovern 14.4
Ed Curnow 8.6
C Curnow 6.4
P Cripps 6.4
Jack Silvagni 6.3

Nothing much changed this week…our percentage improved by 0.3% despite the loss.

Harry maintained his lead in the goalkicking and is on target for a 35-40 goal season, maybe more if we can get going in the second half of the year.

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #53 –
McGovern has been criticised for lack of impact but he is hitting the scoreboard.  If he can stay on the park, he could realistically pass Charlie’s 2018 total.

The spread of goalkickers is promising, particularly since our forward line coach has plenty of work to do to achieve anything like cohesion from our forwards.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #54 –
Bolton’s gone, but games go on.
It will be interesting to see how the change impacts on our scoring ability.

After 11 Games

2016

Goals 121 Behinds 106-(For 832 - against 965)
Percentage 86.2 %

2017

Goals 117 Behinds 97-(For 799 - against 993)
Percentage 80.5 %

2018

Goals-102 Behinds - 101
Percentage 63.5 % (For- 713, Against- 1123)

2019

(Target 2018-Goals 192- Behinds 201- For 1353)
Goals-106 Behinds- 102 
Percentage 74.3 % (For- 738, Against- 993)


Goalkickers
((Target 2018- Charlie Curnow 34-20 -224)

2017

Casboult 18
Wright 15
Silvagni 9
Gibbs 9

2018

Curnow 16
M Wright 12
McKay 12
Casboult 11
Fisher- 7

2019
McKay 18-16-124
McGovern 14-4-88
E Curnow 8-6-54
C Curnow 8-5-53

Our ‘Points Against’ are exactly the same as after round 11 in 2017, but we’ve lost a goal a game in attack.
We’re still looking a lot better than last year percentage wise….but the ‘Points For’ are slipping back to be almost on a par with 2018
The Curnow brothers are only separated by one point in their personal scoring battle.

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #55 –
After 12 games

2016

Goals 133 Behinds 112-(For 910 against 1075)
Percentage 84.7 %

2017
Goals 129 Behinds 108-(For 882 against 1066)
Percentage 82.7 %

2018
Goals-108  Behinds - 111
Percentage  61.9 % (For- 759, Against- 1226)

2019
(Target 2018-Goals 192- Behinds 201- For 1353)
Goals 117 Behinds 114
Percentage 77.3% (For- 816 Against-1056)


Goalkickers

2017

Casboult 18
Wright 16
Silvagni 11
Gibbs 11

2018

Curnow 16
M Wright 14
McKay 12
Casboult 12


2019
McKay 18-18- 126
McGovern 15-4-94
C Curnow 11-6-72
Cripps 10-4-64
E Curnow 8-7-55

-After a bit of a blowout in a few recent games the defence has started to tighten up again.
-Cripps's 4 have moved him up the goalkicking list. It would be good to see some more of that in the second half of the year
-We had a bit of a boost in percentage, back up to 77.3% which has taken a bit of a battering recently down from around 93% at it's peak.

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #56 –
It’s good to see a couple of midfielders among our leading goalkickers.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #57 –
Quote from: DJC on
It’s good to see a couple of midfielders among our leading goalkickers.

In fairness, Ed's played just one game in the midfield for 2019 so far, and Cripps frequently rests forward! Not that it's a bad thing, but it's not the same as mids kicking goals.

My measure will be when midfielders start scoring by working forward as part of their midfield rotation, like when you watch Ablett Jnr charge forward out of the square to kick a goal or to rove a F50 marking contest, not when the mids resting in the forward pocket or playing as small lead up forwards!
The Force Awakens!

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #58 –
Quote from: LP on
In fairness, Ed's played just one game in the midfield for 2019 so far, and Cripps frequently rests forward! Not that it's a bad thing, but it's not the same as mids kicking goals.

My measure will be when midfielders start scoring by working forward as part of their midfield rotation, like when you watch Ablett Jnr charge forward out of the square to kick a goal or to rove a F50 marking contest, not when the mids resting in the forward pocket or playing as small lead up forwards!

Ed has played in the midfield during every game this season.  Admittedly he didn’t spend a lot of time there in the first couple games but his midfield minutes have ramped up since then.  Same with Gibbons.  I guess you could argue that half of Ed’s goals were scored when he was playing forward rather than working forward.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Goaltracker 2019

Reply #59 –
After 13 games

2016
Goals 142 Behinds 123-(For 975 against 1202)
Percentage 81.1 %

2017
Goals 137 Behinds 118-(For 940 against 1150 )
Percentage 81.7 %

2018
Goals-117  Behinds - 116
Percentage  62.7 % (For- 818, Against- 1305)

2019
(Target 2018-Goals 192- Behinds 201- For 1353)
Goals -132 Behinds- 124
Percentage 79% (For- 916 Against -1159)


Goalkickers

2017

Casboult 20
Wright 17
Silvagni 11
Gibbs 11

2018

Curnow 19
M Wright 14
McKay 12
Casboult 12

2019
((Target 2018- Charlie Curnow 34-20 -224)
McKay 19-18- 132
C .Curnow 18-7-115
McGovern 16-4- 100
Cripps 10-4-64

-Charlie goes BANG and moves to second on the goalkicking after a slow start to the year he’s every chance of beating last years total.

With the change of coach it might be interesting to chart the changes to the scoring from the end of Round 11 for the remainder of the year.
Will we be a higher scoring team?
Will our defence hold up?
How will the percentages compare?

The last two weeks results will mean that this initially will look good in comparison. Will that be sustained over the rest of the season or will those results come back to be closer together at the end of the year.

First 11 games
Totals
Goals-106 Behinds- 102 
Percentage 74.3 % (For- 738, Against- 993)
Average
Goals 9.6 Behinds 9.3
For 67 Against 90

Second 11 games (after 2 games)
Goals 26 behinds 22
Percentage 107.2% (For 178 Against 166)
Average
Goals 13 behinds 11
For 89 Against 83

* Those interested in a direct comparison-After 2 rounds of the season we'd scored 20-16 -136 to 27-23 -185...our percentage at the time 73.5%