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Title: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: laj on August 06, 2020, 03:09:35 pm
Has to be good not playing the Suns in Qld.
Title: Re: Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: northernblue on August 06, 2020, 11:43:37 pm
YAY !!
😄
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: crashlander on August 07, 2020, 01:48:53 pm
And on a Friday night, no less! It begs the question: are we being rewarded or are the Suns being rewarded? Somehow I doubt it is us.
It has been two years since we have won and been on free-to-air TV.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 07, 2020, 03:32:50 pm
And on a Friday night, no less! It begs the question: are we being rewarded or are the Suns being rewarded? Somehow I doubt it is us.
It has been two years since we have won and been on free-to-air TV.
Great, another Friday night game that will ruin the week for us.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: LP on August 07, 2020, 03:34:22 pm
And on a Friday night, no less! It begs the question: are we being rewarded or are the Suns being rewarded? Somehow I doubt it is us.
It has been two years since we have won and been on free-to-air TV.
 I think we've been involved in two or the best three games to watch all season.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 07, 2020, 03:39:13 pm
I think we've been involved in two or the best three games to watch all season.
Mate if we play:
- On a Friday night or
- At Basketball Stadium
Its never pretty. Nothing surer.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: crashlander on August 08, 2020, 03:04:20 pm
Mate if we play:
- On a Friday night or
- At Basketball Stadium
Its never pretty. Nothing surer.
We have a very poor record on Friday nights. We haven't won one of them for years! I can't even remember the last Friday Night game we won! I don't think Bolton managed one. Teague hasn't yet because we haven't had any. Malthouse?
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 08, 2020, 04:52:57 pm
We have a very poor record on Friday nights. We haven't won one of them for years! I can't even remember the last Friday Night game we won! I don't think Bolton managed one. Teague hasn't yet because we haven't had any. Malthouse?
Rnd 18 2014 v Norf and Docklands. Since 2000, we have won 21 out of 68 Friday Night Games.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: crashlander on August 08, 2020, 08:55:42 pm
Rnd 18 2014 v Norf and Docklands. Since 2000, we have won 21 out of 68 Friday Night Games.
Not a good record, with NONE since 2014. That's ugly!
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 08, 2020, 09:03:43 pm
Not a good record, with NONE since 2014. That's ugly!
No it isn't, but it fascinates me, how does that happen or keep happening? Does it play on the players minds? Do our blokes just struggle under lights (ie eye issues)? Or are we just crapola on the big stage? Someone should do a thesis on that... AND ALSO WHY WE KEEP LOSING TO DIRTY ROTTEN STINKIN HAWTHORN AARRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 08, 2020, 09:45:16 pm
No it isn't, but it fascinates me, how does that happen or keep happening? Does it play on the players minds? Do our blokes just struggle under lights (ie eye issues)? Or are we just crapola on the big stage? Someone should do a thesis on that... AND ALSO WHY WE KEEP LOSING TO DIRTY ROTTEN STINKIN HAWTHORN AARRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!

2 things.

1. They usually have big games on friday nights. So teams who are finals bound usually get at least 1 spot, if not 2. Given we have never really been finals bound in recent history, it means we are coming up against a higher ranked opponent.

2. We haven't really won any games in recent years at all! Friday, saturday, sunday......thursday....i think we have a good record on mondays, but not sure.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 08, 2020, 10:03:28 pm
2 things.

1. They usually have big games on friday nights. So teams who are finals bound usually get at least 1 spot, if not 2. Given we have never really been finals bound in recent history, it means we are coming up against a higher ranked opponent.

2. We haven't really won any games in recent years at all! Friday, saturday, sunday......thursday....i think we have a good record on mondays, but not sure.
Since 2000, 460 games, 169 wins
Mon 6 wins out of 8 (75%)
Tue 0 wins  out of 0
Wed 0 wins out of 0
Thu 7 wins out of 20 (35%)
Fri 21 wins out of 68 (31%)
Sat 80 wins out of 213 (38%)
Sun 55 wins out of 151 (36%)
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 08, 2020, 10:33:57 pm
Since 2000, 460 games, 169 wins
Mon 6 wins out of 8 (75%)
Tue 0 wins  out of 0
Wed 0 wins out of 0
Thu 7 wins out of 20 (35%)
Fri 21 wins out of 68 (31%)
Sat 80 wins out of 213 (38%)
Sun 55 wins out of 151 (36%)

WOW, my memory is better than i thought. lol
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: LP on August 09, 2020, 08:55:59 am
Since 2000, 460 games, 169 wins
Mon 6 wins out of 8 (75%)
 I wonder if this says something about how professionally we recover, or the toll our game plans take on the team!
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 09, 2020, 09:23:07 am
I wonder if this says something about how professionally we recover, or the toll our game plans take on the team!
Off the top of my head i think its because we've played st kilda a few times on monday nights.
Its not about DAYS, its about the opponent. Fridays are a harder opponent than Mondays. Thats the way the AFL run things for ratings

EDIT: We've played St. Kilda 5 times from our last 6 monday night games. For a 3-2 record.
We also beat Geelong, Brisbane and Richmond for the other 3 games.

Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 09, 2020, 10:07:31 am
Off the top of my head i think its because we've played st kilda a few times on monday nights.
Its not about DAYS, its about the opponent. Fridays are a harder opponent than Mondays. Thats the way the AFL run things for ratings

EDIT: We've played St. Kilda 5 times from our last 6 monday night games. For a 3-2 record.
We also beat Geelong, Brisbane and Richmond for the other 3 games.


2014   R8   St Kilda
2013   R7   St Kilda
2012   R7   St Kilda
2011   R7   St Kilda
2010   R5   Geelong
2010   R7   St Kilda
2000   R1   Brisbane Lions
2000   R7   Richmond
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: crashlander on August 16, 2020, 10:34:52 am
And now the game comes closer. A heart-stopping win and we move on to Darwin.
Who, if anyone do we get back? Pittonet would be handy, as Witts has played well against us since he moved up North,
For that matter, Jack martin would also be nice.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: flyboy77 on August 16, 2020, 10:52:18 am
The run home:

Suns   (Darwin, 21 August, Friday)

Pies   (Gabba, 30 August, Sunday)

Giants    (Metricon, 3 Sept., Thursday)

Swans   (Metricon, 8 Sept., Tuesday)

Crows   (Metricon, 13 Sept., Sunday)

Lions   (tbc, 19 Sept., Saturday)

5 out of 6 to make finals? 4 unlikely to make it.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2020, 11:03:27 am
The run home:

Suns   (Darwin, 21 August, Friday)

Pies   (Gabba, 30 August, Sunday)

Giants    (Metricon, 3 Sept., Thursday)

Swans   (Metricon, 8 Sept., Tuesday)

Crows   (Metricon, 13 Sept., Sunday)

Lions   (tbc, 19 Sept., Saturday)

5 out of 6 to make finals? 4 unlikely to make it.
Coach was definitive in the presser "win every game and we play finals"
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: bratblue on August 16, 2020, 12:17:53 pm
And now the game comes closer. A heart-stopping win and we move on to Darwin.
Who, if anyone do we get back? Pittonet would be handy, as Witts has played well against us since he moved up North,
For that matter, Jack martin would also be nice.

Martin would love it up there. TDK can take on Witts but there's no replacement for the class of Martin, especially in those conditions.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: laj on August 16, 2020, 01:32:10 pm
Coach was definitive in the presser "win every game and we play finals"

Essentially, it's in our own hands. In 2016 we have a real "awful" win against Freo, and it was horrible, but it started a run of 6 wins from 7 against some good sides too. Let's hope history repeats.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2020, 01:51:10 pm
6 games left and some definitely winnable ones.
Brisbane (in brisbane no doubt) will be the toughest one by far.

the rest are certainly winnable.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 16, 2020, 02:14:24 pm
6 games left and some definitely winnable ones.
Brisbane (in brisbane no doubt) will be the toughest one by far.

the rest are certainly winnable.
Giants will be tough if they have their full crew in ie Greene, Davis.....all the teams pushing for finals will be extra keen.
Knowing us we will lose to the Crows and beat Brisbane...
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: jeza on August 16, 2020, 11:08:51 pm
We needed that 1 goal loss against Melbourne to go our way. I suspect they'll keep us out.

We were so far the better team that day it was a ridiculous loss really.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 17, 2020, 07:38:49 am
We needed that 1 goal loss against Melbourne to go our way. I suspect they'll keep us out.

We were so far the better team that day it was a ridiculous loss really.
Agreed, that and the Port loss will haunt us.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: flyboy77 on August 17, 2020, 08:37:20 am
Suns are playing tonight.

The extra 2 days rest must be worth a few goals?
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 17, 2020, 08:52:26 am
Suns are playing tonight.

The extra 2 days rest must be worth a few goals?
This is where Russell and his team will earn there money.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: LP on August 17, 2020, 10:53:37 am
Suns are playing tonight.

The extra 2 days rest must be worth a few goals?
Hopefully, but I suppose the travel offsets a lot of the advantage.

The Suns will arrive and return without much disruption, but I think we are moving from Perth to Brisbane via Darwin.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Thryleon on August 17, 2020, 12:09:33 pm
We wont beat the Suns.  Call it a hunch.  Maybe even Jack Martin compensation...

Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: cookie2 on August 17, 2020, 02:08:42 pm
We wont beat the Suns.  Call it a hunch.  Maybe even Jack Martin compensation...


Well if we are to we will have to play better than we did v Freo.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: blueboys_1 on August 17, 2020, 02:31:41 pm
Hopefully, but I suppose the travel offsets a lot of the advantage.

The Suns will arrive and return without much disruption, but I think we are moving from Perth to Brisbane via Darwin.

Boys have arrived in the Gold Coast to be re united with family. So will be a fly in fly out as per Suns.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: flyboy77 on August 17, 2020, 09:12:14 pm
didn't realise but a 3hr 45m flight! Brisvegas to Darwin,
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: jeza on August 17, 2020, 09:17:11 pm
We wont beat the Suns.  Call it a hunch.  Maybe even Jack Martin compensation...

What is it with Carlton supporters becoming such whiny losers?
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 17, 2020, 09:19:32 pm
What is it with Carlton supporters becoming such whiny losers?
Conditioning jeza
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 17, 2020, 09:21:13 pm
Suns were up early, but folded when the tigers put pressure on them.

6 goals to 1 since 6 minutes into the second quarter.

We need to do the same to the Suns....put the foot on the throat and bring relentless pressure.
Then we will win.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Thryleon on August 17, 2020, 10:00:07 pm
What is it with Carlton supporters becoming such whiny losers?

20 years of mediocrity will do that to you.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: sandsmere on August 18, 2020, 09:21:49 am
What is it with Carlton supporters becoming such whiny losers?

We certainly have got some grizzlers .
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Baggers on August 18, 2020, 10:06:47 am
What is it with Carlton supporters becoming such whiny losers?

I think we should become whiny about whiny losers.  :D
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Lods on August 18, 2020, 10:28:29 am

OUT-Simpson (Beheaded)....not really, but that must have hurt. :D

We seem to go better when we pace ourselves and build at the end rather than go 'frenetic' at the start.
Secret is not to let them get too far ahead that we fall short.
You would have to think they used a bit of energy last night
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 18, 2020, 12:03:34 pm
OUT-Simpson (Beheaded)....not really, but that must have hurt. :D

We seem to go better when we pace ourselves and build at the end rather than go 'frenetic' at the start.
Secret is not to let them get too far ahead that we fall short.
You would have to think they used a bit of energy last night
We should win comfortably given we have more to play for and should be fresher IMO...
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: blueboys_1 on August 18, 2020, 12:18:30 pm
didn't realise but a 3hr 45m flight! Brisvegas to Darwin,

Yes surprised by that myself. We play Friday night so will we fly up the night before or will we fly out on the day? Not ideal but I would assume the Suns would do the same. Would they be on the same flight?
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Baggers on August 18, 2020, 12:31:56 pm
We should win comfortably given we have more to play for and should be fresher IMO...

Now EB1 dear friend, you and I both know that we don't do 'comfortable' anything, especially winning, at the good ship Princes Park!!  ;)
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: jeza on August 18, 2020, 12:39:03 pm
20 years of mediocrity will do that to you.

Interesting thought... Chris Yarran won more finals than Zaharakis and Hurley combined (all 3 drafted in the same year).
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 18, 2020, 01:01:36 pm
Interesting thought... Chris Yarran won more finals than Zaharakis and Hurley combined (all 3 drafted in the same year).
5827 days since those cheating kents won a final, but who's counting.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: capcom on August 18, 2020, 01:10:50 pm
Yes surprised by that myself.

'Bout the same as MEL - PER
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: capcom on August 18, 2020, 01:11:10 pm
Yes surprised by that myself.

'Bout the same as MEL - PER
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: LP on August 18, 2020, 01:16:28 pm
'Bout the same as MEL - PER
Yes, very very surprised we went straight to Brisbane when we could have gone straight to Darwin and had one less 4hr flight in the week. Not sure what the Darwin COVID rules are like, but it seems we had no choice but to go the one of the AFL hubs in Qld.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Thryleon on August 18, 2020, 01:35:37 pm
Interesting thought... Chris Yarran won more finals than Zaharakis and Hurley combined (all 3 drafted in the same year).

Exactly my point.

Do you remember what it was like expecting us to make finals and being filled with disappointed not to play for the flag?

Do you remember what it was like expecting us to win most weeks, and being disappointed when we fell short?

Do you know what I remember more and more frequently?  Being in cruise control against Hawthorn, and copping two goals in red time two weeks ago and having a sinking feeling "here we go again".  Being in a commanding position, only not to capitalise on the good work, and throwing a game away.  Or just not showing up at all, and being beaten without firing a shot.

We have fallen a very long way, and whilst I appreciate that some are happy for us to have progressed to a point where losing hurts again this season (for the first time since 2013 I might add) the rest of us, are not exactly filled with pure optimism.  In fact, some of us have been conditioned to expect to be let down.

There is no one thing to blame for this but our footy clubs performance.  Its just the state of play.  This is how its been more often than not over the last 20 years.  Since roughly 2001, only the 2010 to 2012 period stands out as a reversal of this trend, and it all came crashing down in a sea of disappointment once the Judd affect wore off.  Teague seems to be reversing this trend, but we have been conditioned to expect to be let down.  Blame our footy club for that.  Not the fans for realistically expecting these outcomes.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 18, 2020, 01:36:16 pm
Now EB1 dear friend, you and I both know that we don't do 'comfortable' anything, especially winning, at the good ship Princes Park!!  ;)
I know what you mean but I'm hoping those days are over Baggers and we do things in a normal fashion and beat the teams we should. Maybe I am too optimistic but there really isnt much difference in the teams outside the top 6 and to lose to GC would be a major setback IMO given they are a bunch of kids and have run out of gas like in past seasons.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: flyboy77 on August 18, 2020, 01:40:16 pm
Friday 21 August

Summary Min 21 Max 33

Sunny. Chance of any rain: 0%

Darwin City and Outer Darwin area

Sunny. Light winds.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: crashlander on August 18, 2020, 01:44:34 pm
20 years of mediocrity will do that to you.
Indeed. Except we didn't get as high as 'mediocre' that often.
This is the longest break between premierships that we have ever had.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: WASurfer on August 18, 2020, 01:53:27 pm
If we're fair dinkum about keeping finals chances, albeit slim, still open, then this is a no-brainer....simply must win.

GC have looked super impressive at times this year and some of their young blokes are outstanding. But we can match them in the middle I think. Big challenge for TDK against Witts but reckon he's super hungry at the moment and put up a huge effort against Natanui.

Eddie needs some goals this week or it's a stint on the sidelines for him. Hopefully McGovern gets up for this week.....any word on the fitness of Cunningham? And assuming Martin still another week or two at least away?
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: northernblue on August 18, 2020, 02:00:39 pm
Friday 21 August

Summary Min 21 Max 33

Sunny. Chance of any rain: 0%

Darwin City and Outer Darwin area

Sunny. Light winds.

I'll see if i can check and post later today, but currently its 45% humidity, Sunday morning we had our 1/2 marathon and humidity was 94% @ 7.30am. The weather has turned and we are entering the build up, it'll be a good game to get a strong start and put a score on the board.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: flyboy77 on August 18, 2020, 02:03:41 pm
I'll see if i can check and post later today, but currently its 45% humidity, Sunday morning we had our 1/2 marathon and humidity was 94% @ 7.30am. The weather has turned and we are entering the build up, it'll be a good game to get a strong start and put a score on the board.

And remember, Suns played last night!

Doubly hard on them....
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: flyboy77 on August 18, 2020, 02:05:30 pm
If we're fair dinkum about keeping finals chances, albeit slim, still open, then this is a no-brainer....simply must win.

GC have looked super impressive at times this year and some of their young blokes are outstanding. But we can match them in the middle I think. Big challenge for TDK against Witts but reckon he's super hungry at the moment and put up a huge effort against Natanui.

Eddie needs some goals this week or it's a stint on the sidelines for him. Hopefully McGovern gets up for this week.....any word on the fitness of Cunningham? And assuming Martin still another week or two at least away?


Rankine looked very tired, and all but disinterested, at times last night.

4 day turnaround plus heat and humidity works hugely in our favour.

Just need to move the ball quick forward.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Professer E on August 18, 2020, 02:56:14 pm
Having played three seasons in Darwin,  if the humidity has kicked in,  the least acclimatised side will find it very tough.   Heat (it's only August)  + humidity is bloody hard work.

Mararra was a good facility,  except the grass is very coarse and rough (and full of $()#! ants).  The pockets are very deep, the ground is a bit of a fat oval-shape if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: townsendcalling on August 18, 2020, 02:59:48 pm
Friday 21 August

Summary Min 21 Max 33

Sunny. Chance of any rain: 0%

Darwin City and Outer Darwin area

Sunny. Light winds.

Does it get dewy at night up there??
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: townsendcalling on August 18, 2020, 03:04:35 pm
Looks like the Big Pit, Cunners and Martin should be good to go, McGovern 3 weeks away and Kennedy is getting over a corkie and will be a test.

Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 18, 2020, 03:06:48 pm
If we're fair dinkum about keeping finals chances, albeit slim, still open, then this is a no-brainer....simply must win.

GC have looked super impressive at times this year and some of their young blokes are outstanding. But we can match them in the middle I think. Big challenge for TDK against Witts but reckon he's super hungry at the moment and put up a huge effort against Natanui.

Eddie needs some goals this week or it's a stint on the sidelines for him. Hopefully McGovern gets up for this week.....any word on the fitness of Cunningham? And assuming Martin still another week or two at least away?
I literally just heard on the radio then Gov is out for another 2-3 weeks due to more hamstring problems. They showed him going for scans on TV last night but it was "just precautionary" according to the reporter. On the radio just then, it sounded definitive.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: townsendcalling on August 18, 2020, 03:10:30 pm
My uneducated guess:

Out:   Honey (omitted), Gibbons (managed), Simpson (managed) 

In:      Martin, Cunningham, Pittonett

If Kennedy doesn't come up, Dow to come in.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 18, 2020, 03:16:58 pm
Looks like the Big Pit, Cunners and Martin should be good to go, McGovern 3 weeks away and Kennedy is getting over a corkie and will be a test.


So who comes out for those three? Martin I get, its indigenous round so he and all the indig boys will be raring to go. Cottrell will come out which will be shame. Does TDK come out for Pitto? I think he was excellent last week, can we fit them both along with Cas and H? Perhaps we can so who comes out for Martin and Pitto? Cunningham is a dilemma, we know what we will get from him, SFA most of the game so who ever misses to make way for him will be stiff. Kennedy has a corky so he could be an out, again shame because he has been mostly solid since he came into the side. Honey? Was really keen to see at least another game with him.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: WASurfer on August 18, 2020, 03:23:50 pm
Townsend.....I'd be happy with that lot! Pittonet will be handy against the strength/size of Witts and Cunningham good up forward/around goals. I reckon Betts could also be due for a rest and might be him out instead of Gibbons? Martin a great in if he's ready but geez, a calf and only one week out would be a big risk...but fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: rocky on August 18, 2020, 03:25:53 pm
If Martin comes in I wouldn't want Honey out and in fact given they gave Moore 2 games I wouldn't expect it. Think they might play the "managed" card for one of the oldies and if I had a choice Murph would be it. Not because he played worse than say Simmo or Eddie, but just because I think the conditions (I'm expecting slippery dewy) would suit those two ahead of him. If Pittonet were to come in to replace TDK that would be a mistake IMO. Got to think the kid would handle the hot going better than the lumbering Witts. Cunningham should not be replacing anyone right now but if I had a choice Gibbons would be my pick
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: LP on August 18, 2020, 03:41:38 pm
Interesting on how they manage this.

On recent form Newnes might have been the one heading out for Martin, but not now, not a chance, although I appreciate Newnes can start off the HBF and we probably want Martin as a Mid or HFF!

So it may well be unlucky for Honey.

I won't be surprised if Kennedy is out that Martin is in, and Cunningham in for Honey, what happens then with TDK, Pittonet, McKay and Casboult is interesting. TDK might be an out for Pittonet to come in! Witts is a significant opponent for TDK to deal with, but to me the perfect scalp for Pittonet to target. Witts played quite well against Soldo, these are very big heavy boys!

I'd be dead surprised with Kennedy being potentially injured if any other of the Mids get the chop!

It's interesting, even following on from the Freo game, it has only made us an even more attractive destination. The main reason seems to be  because we were able to generate so many opportunities, and generating opportunities is seen by players as even harder than finishing, so we become attractive to guys like Martin who can finish!
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 18, 2020, 04:56:28 pm
When picking our side, we need to pick our side for the next 2 games.

Rest a player with a niggle and bring him in for the next one.

Got a player coming back from injury? Put him in, and rest him the next week.

Bring in Martin for this game, rest him for the next.
Drop Honey, bring him in for the next.
etc
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: WASurfer on August 18, 2020, 05:38:37 pm
I'd be playing Pittonet and TDK....and leaving Levi permanent forward.

Hopefully Kennedy gets up as he's been pretty good in recent weeks and against the Eagles was one of his best games IMO.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: flyboy77 on August 18, 2020, 06:35:21 pm
Sounds like Martin very likely, the Guv still weeks away.

Cuners and Pitto ready too. I'd play Martin obviously and Pitto (Witts will be dogged tired).

Would rest TDK - can't see why we'd play TDK, Pitto and Levi though TDK can obviously play forward too.

Conditions will suit the talls.

Cuners or Honey? Tempted to give Honey one more, Cuners had been ordinary for a few weeks.

Is it Martin for Cottrell (i'd keep him in for his elite running)? Rest Murphy and/or Simmo.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: WASurfer on August 18, 2020, 07:13:41 pm
Betts for the week off for mine.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Baggers on August 18, 2020, 07:22:08 pm
Betts for the week off for mine.

Not likely in the Sir Doug Nicholls Round - would border on being cruel to him. Hopefully all our indigenous boys play and play extremely well. I wonder if Syd Jackson could pull on the boots for a qtr  ;) ... I hope he's there though. Feel very fortunate to have witnessed the little wizard in full flight for the Mighty BlueBaggers.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: townsendcalling on August 18, 2020, 07:22:37 pm
Betts for the week off for mine.

Won’t happen in the Indigenous Round  
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 18, 2020, 07:28:04 pm
Sounds like Martin very likely, the Guv still weeks away.

Cuners and Pitto ready too. I'd play Martin obviously and Pitto (Witts will be dogged tired).

Would rest TDK - can't see why we'd play TDK, Pitto and Levi though TDK can obviously play forward too.

Conditions will suit the talls.

Cuners or Honey? Tempted to give Honey one more, Cuners had been ordinary for a few weeks.

Is it Martin for Cottrell (i'd keep him in for his elite running)? Rest Murphy and/or Simmo.
Cripps is the one who needs a rest but we know that wont happen, I'd keep Cottrell in too.....I'd probably rest Simpson and let his face deflate after that falcon decked him...
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: cookie2 on August 18, 2020, 07:39:48 pm
Cripps is the one who needs a rest but we know that wont happen, I'd keep Cottrell in too.....I'd probably rest Simpson and let his face deflate after that falcon decked him...

Read somewhere that Simmo will be rested.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Lods on August 18, 2020, 07:49:37 pm
Read somewhere that Simmo will be rested.

His whole body or just his head??

Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 18, 2020, 08:24:35 pm
If you read the player by player reviews from the reserves game, we wont be seeing Dow, LOB, Philp, Ramsey, Marchy or Macreadie. Owies, Lang, Polson and Moore get good reviews...gulp.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: northernblue on August 18, 2020, 10:20:02 pm
Does it get dewy at night up there??

It usually does, but doesn’t seem too bad at the moment.
I was hoping to get back online a bit earlier but my wife dragged me out to dinner 🤷🏼‍♂️ But at 9:45pm local it’s 88% humidity and 25 deg.
I think the suns will handle the humidity fairly well, I was amazed at how hard they used to rotate when their seconds played NT Thunder in the NEAFL up here.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 18, 2020, 10:29:41 pm
His whole body or just his head??


He's still looking for his head.

Probably has a touch of concussion as well.

36yo, playing the way he does....in the wet....with a ball smacked into his head......and 2 flights.....on a 6-day break....

Yeah, he deserves a rest.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Tragic on August 19, 2020, 09:20:15 am
It usually does, but doesn’t seem too bad at the moment.
I was hoping to get back online a bit earlier but my wife dragged me out to dinner 🤷🏼‍♂️ But at 9:45pm local it’s 88% humidity and 25 deg.
I think the suns will handle the humidity fairly well, I was amazed at how hard they used to rotate when their seconds played NT Thunder in the NEAFL up here.

I lived in Darwin for 6 years and 'fondly' remember early on I had a flat tyre before leaving for work.  7am I jack up the car and replace the wheel.  7:30 I peel off my soaked clothes and I'm back in the shower and looking for a fresh set of clothes.

Also played footy up there for 5 seasons.  The season is switched around up there and you play in the summer, which is brutal when it's humid.  I'd start hydrating the night before, and then all morning before the game, and after the game on a Saturday we'd head to the pub to rehydrate.  Most weeks I wouldn't take a leak until 10pm or something stupid like that. 

Has been 15 years or so since I was up there, so can't remember how early it starts getting uncomfortable, but I know it gets really nasty the closer you get to christmas.  From memory shouldn't be too bad in August.  Should be quite nice.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Professer E on August 19, 2020, 09:47:59 am
Playing midfield we used to come on for about 6 minutes then come off.  A long run at training during the wet was  4 km - I'd come back to Melbourne and peel off 16 km in the dry heat.   I used to lose about 3 kg playing.
 Once you heat up,  you just can't cool down,  it's nuts.   My eyes used to get all scabby and caked up from the sweat, that was the worst part,  you'd hit the showers and your eyes would be burning from the salt.   It was hard yakka.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: laj on August 19, 2020, 11:13:43 am
Our next 5 are so winnable. Probably won't get them all but if we get 4 we may then play Brisbane, a toughie, in the last game for a finals spot.

At this time of the week I trust Carlton. As the game gets closer my trust gradually dwindles until the bounce, when trust is all gone...lol.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: townsendcalling on August 19, 2020, 12:08:40 pm
I you read the player by player reviews from the reserves game, we wont be seeing Dow, LOB, Philp, Ramsey, Marchy or Macreadie. Owies, Lang, Polson and Moore get good reviews...gulp.

Could Polson be developing into our Caleb Daniels???

29. Cameron Polson
Cam Polson was one of our better players on the ground again. His ability to run and burst from half back and take the game on was brilliant. His ball use was fantastic: even though there was a bit of space on the ground, he used it really dangerously but his ability to find a target even when under pressure set us up.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: LP on August 19, 2020, 12:26:12 pm
Could Polson be developing into our Caleb Daniels???

29. Cameron Polson
Cam Polson was one of our better players on the ground again. His ability to run and burst from half back and take the game on was brilliant. His ball use was fantastic: even though there was a bit of space on the ground, he used it really dangerously but his ability to find a target even when under pressure set us up.
The kid is a very smart operator, not sure we've used him well in the past, and I appreciate he'll have physical limitations in a system prejudiced towards 195cm midfielders.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: WASurfer on August 19, 2020, 12:38:36 pm
Apologies.....when I suggested Betts for a rest it was purely based on his output in recent weeks....at that point I was oblivious to the fact it was the Indigenous Round....certainly hope nobody was offended. Absolute certainty to play.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: northernblue on August 19, 2020, 01:57:56 pm
Playing midfield we used to come on for about 6 minutes then come off.  A long run at training during the wet was  4 km - I'd come back to Melbourne and peel off 16 km in the dry heat.   I used to lose about 3 kg playing.
 Once you heat up,  you just can't cool down,  it's nuts.   My eyes used to get all scabby and caked up from the sweat, that was the worst part,  you'd hit the showers and your eyes would be burning from the salt.   It was hard yakka.

lol, reminds me I've got running club tonight, 5km followed by a bbq and rehydration...
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: pew2 on August 19, 2020, 02:02:24 pm
hope this is not classic carlton game after a win like last week our expectations rise and we know wat happens , hopefully not
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: LP on August 19, 2020, 02:18:13 pm
Might be tough for marking players, probably still 27°C at game time, dry and not too bad at 74% humidity but after sunset it might still become a bit of a slippery pill.

Haven't watched much of the Suns lately, not sure what to expect. Although I saw some highlights that suggest Stuart Dew has probably eaten a couple of the GCS reserves players!
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: WASurfer on August 19, 2020, 02:21:19 pm
Sounds like Martin, Cunningham and Pittonet could be all available.....IMO it would be Honey, Cottrell and Kennedy (injured) out....unless Cottrell stays in for Simpson who's rested. Cunningham was good in the wet/slippery conditions against North about 3-4 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 19, 2020, 02:25:24 pm
hope this is not classic carlton game after a win like last week our expectations rise and we know wat happens , hopefully not
Everything points to a win, again if we play to our best we should account for GC. They have had a fab year, dont doubt their improvement one bit but I feel our best is better than their best. Having said that (this applies to all the remaining games):
- We must not give them a start
- We must be switched on for 4 qtrs
- We must put last weeks win behind us, hopefully they did that the next day
- Our indigenous boys need to play blinders
- We must not fark this up at the selection table.
I look at last Sat nights win as a watershed moment, the run home can see us put to rest demons of the past, its all between the ears.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: townsendcalling on August 19, 2020, 03:02:58 pm

- We must not give them a start
- We must be switched on for 4 qtrs
- We must put last weeks win behind us, hopefully they did that the next day
- Our indigenous boys need to play blinders
- We must not fark this up at the selection table.

Do all that for the next 2 months and we could be premiers!!!
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 19, 2020, 04:50:06 pm
Do all that for the next 2 months and we could be premiers!!!
As they say in tennis "the match is on their racquet".
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: laj on August 19, 2020, 05:15:02 pm
lol, reminds me I've got running club tonight, 5km followed by a bbq and rehydration...

Life is about balance. What you take off, re run, you have to put back on...lol.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Sexybronco on August 19, 2020, 06:42:15 pm
lol, reminds me I've got running club tonight, 5km followed by a bbq and rehydration...
I did a double take then, couldn't work out who you were having a BBQ with until I realised you are Darwin based....enjoy
I'll be envious, although mainly about the BBQ!
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 19, 2020, 06:52:15 pm
Confirmed on Ch7 news, Pitto, Cunners and Martin all available and expected to play. Why am I suddenly nervous?
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 19, 2020, 07:14:43 pm
Confirmed on Ch7 news, Pitto, Cunners and Martin all available and expected to play. Why am I suddenly nervous?

Which one will be reinjured first?
My money is on cunners
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 19, 2020, 07:30:51 pm
Which one will be reinjured first?
My money is on cunners
Thats a gimme. Which one of those three will produce/contribute SFA?
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 19, 2020, 08:06:37 pm
Thats a gimme. Which one of those three will produce/contribute SFA?
Same answer.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 19, 2020, 08:40:04 pm
Same answer.
Hence why Im suddenly nervous.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: DJC on August 19, 2020, 08:50:15 pm
Confirmed on Ch7 news, Pitto, Cunners and Martin all available and expected to play. Why am I suddenly nervous?

I wouldn’t mind Martin coming straight in and Cuners would be an improvement on Honey (at this stage) but I’m not sure whether he should get a spot without running around in the magoos first.

I’m pretty sure that we can’t play all of Pittonet, De Koning, Casboult and McKay.  De Koning has shown a lot more than Pittonet so the King gets the nod from me.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 19, 2020, 08:55:54 pm
Win this game and we can make the eight IMO, 4-5 wins might be enough, cant afford to stuff up selection with unfit players or bananas who might let us down.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 19, 2020, 09:30:09 pm
Win this game and we can make the eight IMO, 4-5 wins might be enough, cant afford to stuff up selection with unfit players or bananas who might let us down.

Win this, Sydney and Crows....then we MUST be collingwood. Do that and we are more likely than not to make the finals.....but we'd still need the odd game to go our way. Win another one against GWS or Lions and we'd probably be guaranteed.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 19, 2020, 10:10:50 pm
Win this, Sydney and Crows....then we MUST be collingwood. Do that and we are more likely than not to make the finals.....but we'd still need the odd game to go our way. Win another one against GWS or Lions and we'd probably be guaranteed.
Collingwood are shot with injuries and need their best team on the park and wont make finals IMO...
I fancy us vs the Lions who have plenty of kids but think GWS will be tough especially with Greene back in the team and the coach under pressure with his job.
Maybe I am over optimistic but its not a bad draw if we can get effort each week and thats why I dont want too many cameo performers in the team...
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: jeza on August 20, 2020, 09:52:26 am
For a club with a supposed guru in charge of fitness we haven't exactly had a dream run with injuries.
If someone is listed as a 2 week injury it is very common to see them miss 4-5.
Gov had a second preseason last year which saw him only fit for the last couple of rounds. He has reinjured his hammy this week.
McKay is in and out as he reinjures his knee every 5 minutes.
Curnow clearly came back too early and stress fractures appeared in his knee.
SOS is reinjuring himself every 5 minutes.
That's just off the top of my head.

What's going on? I thought Russell was supposed to be good - at the minute he barely looks competent?
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 20, 2020, 10:01:44 am
For a club with a supposed guru in charge of fitness we haven't exactly had a dream run with injuries.
If someone is listed as a 2 week injury it is very common to see them miss 4-5.
Gov had a second preseason last year which saw him only fit for the last couple of rounds. He has reinjured his hammy this week.
McKay is in and out as he reinjures his knee every 5 minutes.
Curnow clearly came back too early and stress fractures appeared in his knee.
SOS is reinjuring himself every 5 minutes.
That's just off the top of my head.

What's going on? I thought Russell was supposed to be good - at the minute he barely looks competent?
Games lost to Injury Ladder on Fox Footy the other night
86 NM
72 Freo
65 Coll
64 WB
61 Car
59 Cheats
57 Gee
55 Syd
51 Ade
43 WC
42 GWS
42 PA
39 Haw
31 StK
30 Melb
25 Mel
23 Rich
17 GC
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Baggers on August 20, 2020, 10:06:41 am
For a club with a supposed guru in charge of fitness we haven't exactly had a dream run with injuries.
If someone is listed as a 2 week injury it is very common to see them miss 4-5.
Gov had a second preseason last year which saw him only fit for the last couple of rounds. He has reinjured his hammy this week.
McKay is in and out as he reinjures his knee every 5 minutes.
Curnow clearly came back too early and stress fractures appeared in his knee.
SOS is reinjuring himself every 5 minutes.
That's just off the top of my head.

What's going on? I thought Russell was supposed to be good - at the minute he barely looks competent?

An important, and unanswerable question is, what would the shape of our list be without him?

His credentials are impeccable Jeza Old Son. Some blokes are just injury prone or have done all the wrong training for many years and The Terrier has to correct past errors in body physiology/shape to handle the rigours of AFL footy long term... and that can take time.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: WASurfer on August 20, 2020, 11:16:57 am
From that draft in 2015 where we took Weitering, Curnow, McKay and Cunningham all in the top 20 or so......would be curious to know how many games all 4 have played in together?.....couldn't be many with Weitering the only one not regularly injured.

Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: jeza on August 20, 2020, 12:51:34 pm
An important, and unanswerable question is, what would the shape of our list be without him?

His credentials are impeccable Jeza Old Son. Some blokes are just injury prone or have done all the wrong training for many years and The Terrier has to correct past errors in body physiology/shape to handle the rigours of AFL footy long term... and that can take time.

I've had a fair amount of faith in russel but how long does that last?

Impact injuries like broken arms / concussions you can't really do much about. We've had calves, hammys, knees, etc. and the rehab time always seems to be longer rather than shorter than expected.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: LP on August 20, 2020, 01:09:16 pm
Loved watching those Syd Jackson videos floating around the club website and the web.

When I was a little tacker, along-side Doull and Barassi, Syd was probably one of my big all time favourites. So skilled, so cool under pressure, smooth as silk across the turf, like watching McLeod or Yarran cruise through the midfield, but no doubt a tougher version as he had to deal with quite a bit more "attention" back in those days, as the older folk know if you got a run-on back then you we quickly given a handicap!
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: cookie2 on August 20, 2020, 01:52:22 pm
I once had a good chat with Syd many years ago now at a club GF eve function at the Hyatt (we weren't in the GF btw). Hell of a nice guy. Spoke to many other players too, Johnno, Mark Naley, Rhys, and others. Turned into  a VERY big night. 🍻🍻🍻🍻
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 20, 2020, 01:56:37 pm
I once had a good chat with Syd many years ago now at a club GF eve function at the Hyatt (we weren't in the GF btw). Hell of a nice guy. Spoke to many other players too, Johnno, Mark Naley, Rhys, and others. Turned into  a VERY big night. 🍻🍻🍻🍻
A gentleman and a scholar, had a few beers with him once at club function, ripper bloke.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: capcom on August 20, 2020, 02:44:42 pm
Had a few beers with him as well.  Asked him about the Don Jolley game GF whistle swap for his premiership jumper.  Also reminded him of his pouring rain drop kick for a goal at Princes Park against South in the 70s.  He couldn't recall it at all and said "how do you remember that"?

I simply said "I marked it Syd!"  So another beer was had.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: WASurfer on August 20, 2020, 02:48:40 pm
Met him when I was a kid growing up in Bunbury in the late 70's watching a South Bunbury game.....he was back in WA and back home watching his beloved Tigers...where it all started. It was such an honour to meet him.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Baggers on August 20, 2020, 05:09:19 pm
Had a few beers with him as well.  Asked him about the Don Jolley game GF whistle swap for his premiership jumper.  Also reminded him of his pouring rain drop kick for a goal at Princes Park against South in the 70s.  He couldn't recall it at all and said "how do you remember that"?

I simply said "I marked it Syd!"  So another beer was had.

Got a belly laugh here, CC.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 20, 2020, 05:21:17 pm
Games lost to Injury Ladder on Fox Footy the other night
86 NM
72 Freo
65 Coll
64 WB
61 Car - Kreuzer (10) Newman (10) Charlie (11) = 31
59 Cheats
57 Gee
55 Syd
51 Ade
43 WC
42 GWS
42 PA
39 Haw
31 StK
30 Melb
25 Mel
23 Rich
17 GC

3 players is half our total.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: laj on August 20, 2020, 06:33:34 pm
Round 13 team

Backs: Kade Simpson - Liam Jones - Tom Williamson

Half-backs: Sam Docherty - Jacob Weitering - Lachie Plowman

Centreline: Matthew Cottrell - Patrick Cripps - Will Setterfield

Half-forwards: Michael Gibbons - Levi Casboult - Zac Fisher

Forwards: Eddie Betts - Harry McKay - Jack Martin

Followers: Tom De Koning - Ed Curnow - Marc Murphy

Interchange: Sam Petrevski-Seton - Sam Walsh - Jack Newnes - Marc Pittonet

Emergencies: Lochie O'Brien - Cameron Polson - Josh Honey - Callum Moore

In: Marc Pittonet, Jack Martin

Out: Matthew Kennedy (cork), Josh Honey (omitted)
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 20, 2020, 06:44:20 pm
Round 13 team

Backs: Kade Simpson - Liam Jones - Tom Williamson

Half-backs: Sam Docherty - Jacob Weitering - Lachie Plowman

Centreline: Matthew Cottrell - Patrick Cripps - Will Setterfield

Half-forwards: Michael Gibbons - Levi Casboult - Zac Fisher

Forwards: Eddie Betts - Harry McKay - Jack Martin

Followers: Tom De Koning - Ed Curnow - Marc Murphy

Interchange: Sam Petrevski-Seton - Sam Walsh - Jack Newnes - Marc Pittonet

Emergencies: Lochie O'Brien - Cameron Polson - Josh Honey - Callum Moore

In: Marc Pittonet, Jack Martin

Out: Matthew Kennedy (cork), Josh Honey (omitted)
Shame about Kennedy, made a big difference to our structure I reckon.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: rocky on August 20, 2020, 06:54:51 pm
Very surprised and disappointing Honey didn't get a 2nd week. Martin back after only one week with a calf? Something strange there. Pittonet comes back which is good, but I would've given Honey another game.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: WASurfer on August 20, 2020, 06:55:03 pm
Agree on Kennedy but Martin a handy in though.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: cookie2 on August 20, 2020, 07:33:26 pm
May not mean anything but interesting to note Cottrell named in defence and SPS on the bench. I will watch with interest which roles they actually play. Could SPS play more midfield?
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Thryleon on August 20, 2020, 08:31:12 pm
3 players is half our total.

Yep, let's not forget things are a bit unusual this season too. 
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: flyboy77 on August 20, 2020, 09:03:03 pm
That's a weak team quite frankly:

SUNS

B: C.Budarick, S.Collins, J.Harbrow

HB: J.Bowes, C.Ballard, C.Graham

C: J.Lukosius, H.Greenwood, B.Ellis

HF: L.Weller, S.Day, J.Corbett

F: I.Rankine, B.King, S.Flanders

FOLL: J.Witts, D.Swallow, T.Miller

I/C: B.Ainsworth, N.Anderson, S.Lemmens, W.Powell
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: townsendcalling on August 20, 2020, 09:12:48 pm
That's a weak team quite frankly:

It is always a good sign when the side wins, they make two changes and the side is stronger!  Martín in is a positive and we are back to 3 talls up forward. Feeling good.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: flyboy77 on August 20, 2020, 09:32:53 pm
It is always a good sign when the side wins, they make two changes and the side is stronger!  Martín in is a positive and we are back to 3 talls up forward. Feeling good.

Just to clarify, I was referring to the Suns team!

Ballard and Collins both circa 194/195cm.

Harry 204cm, TDK 203cm, Levi 201cm.

Perfect day in Darwin, hitting 33. Not sure what time it cools....and, as others have mentioned, humidity a big factor.

You'd reckon the Suns' legs will be heavy.

Pump the ball in (smartly) to our three forwards....

Betts another six?

 
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 20, 2020, 09:46:08 pm
Just to clarify, I was referring to the Suns team!

Ballard and Collins both circa 194/195cm.

Harry 204cm, TDK 203cm, Levi 201cm.

Perfect day in Darwin, hitting 33. Not sure what time it cools....and, as others have mentioned, humidity a big factor.

You'd reckon the Suns' legs will be heavy.

Pump the ball in (smartly) to our three forwards....

Betts another six?

 
We should be fresher given we have a couple of days break on them but they train in the heat/humidity during normal proceedings so they may pull up better than other teams.
Agree we have the talls down forward although Witts usually monsters us, happy to see Sexton out for them as he always sneaks a few goals, hopefully Martin plays and can do a number on his old teammates.
re: Eddie..been slim pickings for Eddie so maybe jack can give him a few cheapies and get him in some form.
Shame Kennedy is out, as Jim alluded to it messes with our structure a bit....
Reckon Levi will have a big game, interesting to see if GC go with Bowes or Greenwood on Cripps who have both had good games on him previously.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 20, 2020, 10:10:20 pm
Traditionally our biggest issue with Gold Coast has been Tom Lynch.

Being a bit Sandra Sully here, but guess what.....he ain't playing!
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: flyboy77 on August 20, 2020, 10:16:06 pm
Traditionally our biggest issue with Gold Coast has been Tom Lynch.

Being a bit Sandra Sully here, but guess what.....he ain't playing!

fair call.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 20, 2020, 10:31:50 pm
Fun fact. Here are all the multiple goalkickers Gold Coast has had against us (by game) from the past 8 games.

From our last 8 games with them....
2019-2
3 goals, Wright - Not playing
2 goals, Sexton - Not playing.

2019-1
2 goals, Sexton - Not playing
2 goals, Holman - Not playing

2018 - 2
2 goals, Wright - Not playing

2018-1
8 goals, Lynch - Not playing
3 goals, Martin - Playing on our side!

2017-1
3 goals, Martin - Playing on our side!
2 goals, Lyon - Not playing

2016-1
4 goals, Lynch - Not playing
3 goals, Martin - Playing on our side!

2015-1
4 goals, Lynch - Not playing
3 goals, Dixon - Not playing

2014-1
2 goals, Harbrow - PLAYING



We have to go back to 2014 to find a player who has kicked more than 1 goal against us in a game......and he is playing in the back pocket!
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: LP on August 21, 2020, 07:59:24 am
Bit sad not to see Honey getting a second run, sometimes that first game blinks out like a blown light bulb and the second is significantly different, but it's understandable given Martin is back.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: Baggers on August 21, 2020, 10:10:02 am
Bit sad not to see Honey getting a second run, sometimes that first game blinks out like a blown light bulb and the second is significantly different, but it's understandable given Martin is back.

Also sad not to see him get another go but am confident the club has given him the necessary support and encouragement for him to see he has the potential to be a serious AFL footballer at the good ship Princes Park.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: kruddler on August 21, 2020, 03:46:53 pm
Bit sad not to see Honey getting a second run, sometimes that first game blinks out like a blown light bulb and the second is significantly different, but it's understandable given Martin is back.
Given the short turnaround, i reckon he's already been told he's playing next week....or next game (not really a week)
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: northernblue on August 21, 2020, 07:09:18 pm
Just under an hour from the bounce and it’s 29 deg and only 45% humidity.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: cookie2 on August 21, 2020, 07:20:28 pm
Just under an hour from the bounce and it’s 29 deg and only 45% humidity.

I'm jealous mate. It's about 5 deg here and we're in lockdown.  Think I'll open another bottle of shiraz and make up a cheese platter before the game starts.
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: northernblue on August 21, 2020, 07:25:54 pm
I'm jealous mate. It's about 5 deg here and we're in lockdown.  Think I'll open another bottle of shiraz and make up a cheese platter before the game starts.

A bit warm for the Shiraz, I’ll crack a beer for you 🍻
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: cookie2 on August 21, 2020, 07:29:50 pm
A bit warm for the Shiraz, I’ll crack a beer for you 🍻

😁👍
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: LP on August 21, 2020, 07:29:54 pm
I'm jealous mate. It's about 5 deg here and we're in lockdown.  Think I'll open another bottle of shiraz and make up a cheese platter before the game starts.
A cheeky DOCG Chianti for me tonight, with a sampler of Gorgonzola, Gouda, Smoked Tasty, Chevre, Red Leicester some olives and a little savoury fruit relish, plum or quince paste.  :D

I might force myself to wash that away with a pale ale just out of sympathy for @northernblue
Title: Re: Pre game Discussion Round 13 Suns v Carlton in Darwin.
Post by: cookie2 on August 21, 2020, 07:31:05 pm
A cheeky DOCG Chianti for me tonight, with a sampler of Gorgonzola, Gouda, Smoked Tasty, Chevre, Red Leicester some olives and a little savoury fruit relish, plum or quince paste.  :D
👍