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The Sports Desk / Re: The Ashes - Fourth Test at Durham
Lost it when Bresnan and Swann made those cheap runs at the end.......50-60 of those runs were worth 120 in scoreboard pressure.

Harris had tired and Bird was bowling medium pace rubbish at that stage....in fact were are in danger of burning Harris out again if Clarke keeps throwing him the ball everytime we need wickets

England spread the workload better...Anderson didnt have to do much this test because Broad stepped up...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 21: Richmond v Carlton (Pre-game Prayers)
I've really started to hope now that O'Keefe gets a gig this week from all of the positive reports on him starting to appear!

I am happy to be one of the positive reporters. The bloke can play... really play. But his body has let him down, badly.

To re-iterate... he is strong, has a footy brain, excellent disposal, great tackler, big/accurate left foot, has big voice on the field (unlike some of our introverted dudes), obviously liked by team mates and has a dash of measured mongrel. To repeat... but his body has let him down.

Sub or one more week in the Magoos.


Need to play him....his career is on life support and he will be cut IMO if he doesnt show something on the big stage as he is one of the easier targets to get rid off with little explanation required.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Season Over Thread
Forgive me if this is inaccurate, but isnt Mclean and Sewell a similar type, and isnt Cachia and Curnow on that sort of level as well?

The only reason I like the idea of bringing in Sewell is the way he might be able to help prop us up, but even so, is he coming here to earn an easier game making him counter productive to what we want to achieve?

I think its important that we only bring in someone who will earn their spot which means a recycled retread from another side that is currently not getting a look in because the club culture is divisive and is not part of the in crowd.  So in essence, Shaun Grigg...

We would have to look at Melbourne, GWS, Gold Coast and perhaps Collingwood for those purposes, but until we fix our culture, even that will be a waste of time.  Its a right pickle to be in.  I think Richmond got it right when they chose the route they chose a few years ago.  Just went a big cull to the list, stuck with quality people and kept churning over the list until they got the right mix of players.

We had the prime example of player in Chris Judd to do this, and sat on our eggs...  Might have cost us in the end.


Tigers have recruited well ...its not rocket science why they have improved....Maric is now a genuine A grade ruckman who can control games and protect his smalls, Chaplain has shored up the backline and made Rance a better player, Morris, Ellis and Vlastuin are hard kids with long careers ahead of them. They also picked the right man to be captain and thats Cotchin....
Can the Tigers keep recruiting well , get rid of their remaining duds and take the next step...thats the challenge they have...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rnd 20- Carlton v Bulldogs -Post Match Autopsy
Unacceptable in every way.  Simpluy unacceptable.

Writing is on the wall but the club, and has been for at least 6 weeks, but our clueless coach can't see it.

The gameplan is obselete, even if we could enact it.

Its like a broken FG record - for 10 years we are too weak physically and we have too many small players, but hey, if the opposition can chuck the ball away every time why even bothering to tackle... I think the asset in brute strength is breaking tackles, not laying them, and holding your feet (core strength).

Our lack on on-field leadership is galling.

We need to cull 10-15 players because we haven't made calls for about 3 years and have persisted for to long with spuds like Warnock.  Who gave that useless hack a 3 year contract???Other blokes have become too comfortable. Bryce Gibbs - as disappointing a player as I have ever seen at Carlton.  in the 70's we had a term for blokes like him - a glider.  A bloke happy to run around and get the odd kick and get paid, without bothering to work up a sweat or get dirty. Closely followed by one C. Yarran.  How about actually contributing something Chris?

Mick needs a boot in the bum from the board.   Blokes need to be played in their correct positions, dropped if out of form, and given work to rectify problems.

Why is Walker kicking out?  Is Malthouse seriously so stupid?  Stuff like this is just happening too much.  Does Malthouse even know the players?

Thought Judd was head and shoulders our best, McLean at least tried, Watson and Bootsma (second half ok) but for the umpteenth time this year - midfield was smashed.  Rebuilding has to start there, it is our biggest problem.

Prof....Wont get an argument from me on any of those comments except I'm not prepared to judge MM until I have seen his recruiting/trade work and the results it brings in 12 months time.
Problem being to replace 10-15 players you need 3 years of solid recruiting and the Carlton philosphy is we dont rebuild just refresh....that mentality usually leads to crazy trades, too many retreds and more chaos as the coach under pressure gets desperate for short term success that cant be sustained and to win flags you need sustained success over a cycle of years.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rnd 20- Carlton v Bulldogs -Post Match Autopsy
Yep - said Jamo was done just 2 weeks ago & geez, he was defended admirably by some for reasons I still don't know. Just another cog in this broken wheel of ours.

Notice Curnow was listed in our best.....he had a crack, I'll give him that, but his direct opponent was Cooney = FAIL. Cachia's direct opponent was Griffen = FAIL. Tuohy's direct opponent for a lot of the day was Grant = FAIL. Warnock = FAIL. Walker = FAIL. Murphy = FAIL. Gibbs = FAIL. Armfield = FAIL. Henderson = FAIL (although the kicking to our forwards was abysmal....again). Waite = FAIL. Garlett = FAIL. Betts = FAIL. Menzel = FAIL. Simmo = FAIL. Rowe = FAIL. Yarran butchers the ball by foot = FAIL.

Bootsma gets spared as his spoiling was exceptional, as was his field kicking, although one horrific missed tackle nearly earned him a FAIL. Juddy, McLean & Scotland = Pass.


Brettie....Bootsma had Grant didnt he and got spanked..then went to Jones and had another goal kicked on him but he did do better after half time and the kid his best.

But seriously we got beat by the likes of Jarryd Garnt, Will Young, Tory Dickson, Jason Tutt. ???...Grant hasnt played a decent 4 quarter game in his life, just shows how much commitment our blokes had tonight..... er I forgot...Mark Austen ...yep that superstar...thats how bad we are going, well beat by nondescripts and our own ex duds....

Dont stop at 10 players cut Mick ...go for 12-15....get some who care and have some pride.

Gibbs started on Grant EB1, Bootsma was on him for maybe a few mins, but that was about it.......Grant had a revolving door of Carlton players on him throughout the game. Bootsma spent most of the game on Jones & did a fairly good job.

Brettie...My apologies then to Bootmsa if he had Jones for most of the game becuase he would have been one of our few winners in thats case.....and the blowtorch needs to be applied to Gibbs if had Grant intially...both his defending and disposal was very ordinary IMO and I remain dissapointed in Gibbs ability to get to the next level.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rnd 20- Carlton v Bulldogs -Post Match Autopsy
Yep - said Jamo was done just 2 weeks ago & geez, he was defended admirably by some for reasons I still don't know. Just another cog in this broken wheel of ours.

Notice Curnow was listed in our best.....he had a crack, I'll give him that, but his direct opponent was Cooney = FAIL. Cachia's direct opponent was Griffen = FAIL. Tuohy's direct opponent for a lot of the day was Grant = FAIL. Warnock = FAIL. Walker = FAIL. Murphy = FAIL. Gibbs = FAIL. Armfield = FAIL. Henderson = FAIL (although the kicking to our forwards was abysmal....again). Waite = FAIL. Garlett = FAIL. Betts = FAIL. Menzel = FAIL. Simmo = FAIL. Rowe = FAIL. Yarran butchers the ball by foot = FAIL.

Bootsma gets spared as his spoiling was exceptional, as was his field kicking, although one horrific missed tackle nearly earned him a FAIL. Juddy, McLean & Scotland = Pass.

Brettie....Bootsma had Grant didnt he and got spanked..then went to Jones and had another goal kicked on him but he did do better after half time and the kid his best.

But seriously we got beat by the likes of Jarryd Garnt, Will Young, Tory Dickson, Jason Tutt. ???...Grant hasnt played a decent 4 quarter game in his life, just shows how much commitment our blokes had tonight..... er I forgot...Mark Austen ...yep that superstar...thats how bad we are going, well beat by nondescripts and our own ex duds....

Dont stop at 10 players cut Mick ...go for 12-15....get some who care and have some pride.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rnd 20- Carlton v Bulldogs -Post Match Autopsy
And another thing, Jamison looks shot. Needs two of Watson, Mcinnes and Henderson to support.

We Agree...its time to recruit another younger fullback who can kick the ball better...Jamo continues to butcher the ball and for a senior player I am dissapointed in his leadership....

Watson continues to improve and its makes a mockery out of reserves form....some players never show anything until given senior opportunities.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rnd 20- Carlton v Bulldogs -Post Match Autopsy
The value of Warnock diminishes every time the lad takes the field. Some will get sucked in by the stats, even his coaches it seems. 48 hit outs, 6 kicks, 2 tackles.

But at 206cm it is the zero marks that hurts us, opposition teams do not even bother to stand him. At stoppages Minson rucked and roved while Warnock watched on. I am sick of seeing it, for someone his size he is pure poo, and anyone who defends him is a joke!

Minson got half the hit outs and was twice the player!

I love Rowe's effort but he is not up to it!


Agree...Warnock is a dinasour and while Rowe gave effort today he had no imapact on the game at all and Casboult deserves a run.....I think hwile Rowe has another year to go he is destined for backup material only. Warnock needs trading out....I prefer Hampson who at least can take the odd mark and contest at ground level.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 20: Carlton v Bulldogs (In Game Thread)
Cant win a stoppage and our usual tackling issues are apparent again.....we may win this due to the dogs being such poor converters but if we had been playing a decent team we would be 5-8 goals down.

Gibbs disposal concerns me....has had plenty of time to hit up targets but doesnt make his kicks count often enough.
Thought Watson was going ok till injured...
Bootmsa isnt big enough to take either Grant or Jones and I am not usre what he is doing down back on bigger players...this has been an issue before and Malthouse continues to get this wrong.
Betts has been better this week, Garlett well held...

Waite has done nothing but at least has been physical...Henderson been ok witha couple of goals, Rowe has had a couple of markd but hasnt done enough.

Menzel...couple of goals and shows some class...

Warnock and Rowe have probably broken even with Minson in the ruck its just when the ball hits the deck the Dogs are like terriers in pursuit of the ball.
Murphy, Brock  and Judd are not really effective and while Curnow and Cachia have not been too bad they are trailing the Dogs mid to the ball most times.

Touhy and Walker have been unsighted, Simpson has worked hard for not much result and Scotland while picking up kicks hasnt done a lot with the footy.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 20: Carlton V Bulldogs (Pre-Game)
Casboult is unlucky...I am a fan of Sam Rowe but he was ordinary last week after a quiet game the week before and I would be worried if I was Levi that Mick isnt a fan because Levi should be playing this week and I think he would be more useful vs Minson.

That's a bit tough EB.  From memory Rowe had around 17 hitouts at a fairly high to advantage ratio, and against top opposition.  I don't believe Casboult has ever managed that many hitouts in a game.  They're both still learning the caper but Rowe is ahead at this stage . . . and Casboult isn't dominating in the NBs.

I'd like to think that Minson will have his hands full trying to cope with Warnock rather than us worrying about bringing in a big body to bang heads with him.  Although I was impressed with the way Casboult threw his weight around against Box Hill.  It's a little bit different when it's a lot harder to get near the pill.

re: Graham....probably Menzel and Bootsma is enough kids for this week, think Graham may get a game vs the Tigers or Port.

Again, I haven't seen Graham really take the game by the scruff of the neck in the NBs, but then neither have Menzel or Bootsma.  You're right though, we can't play too many kids, even against average opposition.

Fair point DJ.....I think Sam's ruck work was the best part of his game last week and he is improving in that area but I have been dissapointed in his marking down forward. he just isnt holding his marks and there isnt a lot of seconadry follow up on the ground.
He has another years contract so he has his nose in front of Levi on that score.....and Mick obviously sees something in him that Casboult doesnt have at the present.

Big test for Warnock.....Minson is a tough hombre and Robbie has had his problems with the big bodied Mumford types......needs to take some marks around the ground to dispel that theory he is just a tap ruckman.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Baby Blues vs. Sandringham at Visy on Saturday
Temay on the ball in the magoos magoos.

Is that just to get him more ball time?

I just think he is an average player and a ordinary draft selection....maybe he will be a sleeper like Kade Simpson was and will develop but at his size you have to be very very good
to make it in the modern game.

Seb Ross is a Stkilda player with some ability and I'll be interested to see how he goes.......good size and skills, would consider him if available for trade.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 20: Carlton V Bulldogs (Pre-Game)
Casboult is unlucky...I am a fan of Sam Rowe but he was ordinary last week after a quiet game the week before and I would be worried if I was Levi that Mick isnt a fan because Levi should be playing this week and I think he would be more useful vs Minson.

re: Graham....probably Menzel and Bootsma is enough kids for this week, think Graham may get a game vs the Tigers or Port.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 20: Carlton V Bulldogs (Pre-Game)
Lucas is unlucky...didnt think he was too bad as the sub and contested better than some of his mates when he came on. I dont call that great selection work at all.

Robbo is one of Mick s whipping boys and I reckon is on shaky ground in terms of his future...