How many times have you seen someone wind up with a huge round arm spoil that could knock someone's head off, but the player still clunks the mark. Think Levi, when he got his hands to it, a bazooka couldn't dislodge it. Thats one reason why you can put it into the outer.
FWIW, i'm not sure why you are fixating on this rule. It might happen once a round. It doesn't hold up play or delay a game so why would you need to penalise it?
It does hold up play. It causes a stoppage and a throw in. If it was a free kick it might cause players to modify their spoiling and keep the ball in play. At the very least redirect the spoil. I think it probably happens much more than once a round. Watch it in our next game.
I guess I'm fixating on it because it seems a bit inconsistent to penalise a 'dubious' deliberate out of bounds with a kick. Yet a definite 'deliberate' punch of the ball out of bounds is fine.
If we're going to seriously look at 'last touch' either by hand or foot then all these will be free kicks anyway under that rule.
As mentioned, you intention is to spoil. It cannot be deliberate if its a spoil.
If you start paying that then you get players holding back on their spoils so they don't get pinged for deliberate, which means the ball is more likely to be marked.
Rather than worrying about introducing new rules like 'last touch', just enforce the rules as they are . The onus should be on the spoiling player to make the spoil sure, but also keep the ball in play not deliberately knock it out of bounds. There is a difference between a spoil that goes to ground and rolls out and one that gets deliberately knocked twenty metres into the stand.
18.5 MARKING CONTESTS 18.5.1 Spirit and Intention The Player whose sole objective is to contest or spoil a Mark shall be permitted to do so
Yep that's fair The key words are "sole objective" and when you deliberately knock it over the line it's no longer a sole objective. It becomes a spoil and a reset
Agreed....imagine a defender going for a match saving spoil in the back pocket in the dying seconds of a game and be penalised because the ball goes out? Opponent gets a shot on goal....
This is one that actually confuses me. Maybe I'm missing something.
If a player deliberately kicks a ball out of bounds it's a free kick. If a player in attempting to spoil a mark knocks the ball out of play (often with obvious intent to find the boundary) it isn't. The question is why?
18.10 OUT OF BOUNDS 18.10.1 Spirit and Intention Players shall be encouraged to keep the football in play. 18.10.2 Free Kicks - Out of Bounds A field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against a Player who: (a) Kicks the football Out of Bounds On the Full; (b) Kicks, Handballs or forces the football over the Boundary Line and does not demonstrate sufficient intent to keep the football in play; or (c) fails to immediately hand the football to the boundary Umpire or drop the football directly to the ground once the football is Out of Bounds.
I'm pretty confident Jenner could take on and defeat many of her male counterparts of a similar age. In fact there are quite a few 'female at birth' athletes who could defeat male counterparts in masters competition. While at the highest level there is a significant gap between men and women, as you drop down the performance lists these gaps between sexes often reduce. It's often about technique at that age. Jenner would retain or regain a lot of good technique.
The world records for women at Jenner's age level (70+) are actually quite modest for many events. Even allowing for decreased performance as a result of transitioning, I could see probably half a dozen field/multi events where she could break world records. It's probably to her credit she chooses not to.
(I will just add the qualifier that I'm not sure the full extent of Jenner's transition)
I remember thinking as Fyfe kicked it and before the decision was made "What will the umpire do here?" It was uncertain enough that the decision could have gone either way and it would have been OK.
This is such a complicated issue and it's also one where it's a very individual experience. The actual physical transitioning is only one aspect. For many it's a relief and a release. They may gain a feeling of 'normality' that didn't previously exist. But, consider, for others it actually might not be the change that they hoped for, and existing troubles and feelings, don't just disappear. The issues involved with identity changes and acceptances may present overwhelming challenges.
As a society we face the dilemma to provide the best possible support and understanding, but at the same time we have to be conscious that there may be a point where there needs to be restrictions, such as occur in sport, that don't lead to others being unfairly disadvantaged.
So we move on... Everything being well this is a game we should win.
There are a couple of issues we need to watch. As much as the coaches will be aware of it, there will be an issue of keeping focus. We'll get a fair few kudos in the AFL world this week. Even if the players don't get too exposed to this publicity, they know they've done good.
Added to that....we played a very physical game yesterday. We no doubt set ourselves for a big effort...and produced. These things sometimes result in a bit of a let down in the following game.
Now some will suggest Voss and his coaching team won't let that happen. But it's a test of progress. Another challenge. Another layer. Hopefully we're up to the task.
Motlop only 5 touches but he had 5 tackles and 20 pressure acts.
Yep Noticed him at times running to repeat contests. That was a bit of a contrast to a recent VFL game where he seemed disinterested. A work in progress.
"They get around Jack Newnes, surely that's not his first goal for the football club" (He must have missed the one against Freo after the siren in 2020)
They've all come to him We're a bit mystified"
"It's his 200th"
"The players really know their numbers these days don't they, 200 goals?"
"No it's his 200th game"
Oh well, that's about games. Big deal. Chair him off, chair him to the interchange.
Commentator B (As the players get around Newnes)
"If you want to know what culture looks like on the field. That's it right there!"
Surprisingly I think B was actually Jordan Lewis (no Carlton lover)
