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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Last post by kruddler -
That's a bit rough on Amy and those who appreciated her immense talent.

The thing with pressure acts is that they're nebulous.  As Matty Cottrell's comment implies, the people who matter at footy clubs value some player actions that many spectators - and commentators - may not even notice.  Some of those actions may be pressure acts, some may not.  Some pressure acts may be valued by coaches and MCs, many will not be.

Take Ollie Hollands' two spoils against Lynch, one of which resulted in clean possession to Hollands and a rebound 50.  I think I can safely assume that Vossy would be rapt with those two efforts.  He wouldn't be quite so happy with Cuners taking his opponent to the boundary line, then stopping because he thought the ball was out (it was, but the boundary umpire was unsighted).  Cuners is credited with a pressure act but his opponent gets balanced and kicks the ball downfield without any pressure.

As i stated, i'm not saying they are the perfect stat, but if you want a rough guide on what players are doing that most supporters are not taking notice of, the pressure act stat is a good example. As mentioned, a player with a lot of pressure acts is clearly applying more pressure than a player with very little. You could argue individual numbers if you wish, but thats missing the point.

re Amy Winehouse....i did say its my opinion. Others can differ and thats fine.

I find it difficult to have sympathy for someone boasting about not going to rehab....and then dying because of it.

.....and i'm a huge Nirvana fan, so i understand some similarities with Kurt Cobain.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Last post by DJC -
Amy Winehouse.....thats what you take out of this?

Personally couldn't give a stuff about her and her wasted life.

However, you want to argue about pressure stats now. As usual you misunderstand the point of them. Its a guide, a reference a relative measure.
It doesn't matter how accurate they are as they are as accurate for one player as they are for another player. If one player has heaps and another player doesn't, guess who provided more pressure?

That's a bit rough on Amy and those who appreciated her immense talent.

The thing with pressure acts is that they're nebulous.  As Matty Cottrell's comment implies, the people who matter at footy clubs value some player actions that many spectators - and commentators - may not even notice.  Some of those actions may be pressure acts, some may not.  Some pressure acts may be valued by coaches and MCs, many will not be.

Take Ollie Hollands' two spoils against Lynch, one of which resulted in clean possession to Hollands and a rebound 50.  I think I can safely assume that Vossy would be rapt with those two efforts.  He wouldn't be quite so happy with Cuners taking his opponent to the boundary line, then stopping because he thought the ball was out (it was, but the boundary umpire was unsighted).  Cuners is credited with a pressure act but his opponent gets balanced and kicks the ball downfield without any pressure.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Last post by kruddler -
Amy Winehouse, what a tragedy, what a loss!

It's the most important point of this thread, because pressure acts as they are collected can be widely varied from trailing a metre or two behind the ball carrier, to getting in an eyeline of a marking contest, a failed attempt to smother, or a full blown bump.

Amy Winehouse.....thats what you take out of this?

Personally couldn't give a stuff about her and her wasted life.

However, you want to argue about pressure stats now. As usual you misunderstand the point of them. Its a guide, a reference a relative measure.
It doesn't matter how accurate they are as they are as accurate for one player as they are for another player. If one player has heaps and another player doesn't, guess who provided more pressure?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -
I think that our defence works better with both Kemp and McGovern in the mix, but Kemp does struggle against much taller opponents.  The problem is that all seven defenders are playing well and working well together.  Weitering has to be an automatic in but who goes out ... Boyd?

Isn't this the discussion we were having in the other thread? Kemp and McGovern are good at filling in as a KPP but are not actually KPPs.