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Title: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: Amers on March 12, 2016, 03:17:29 pm
1st praccy match was today, went down to Box Hill  by 50 points.

Liam Jones kicked 3 goals, Jaksch and Forster both played a half up forward and in defense.
 Byrne ran from the back 50 to the fwd 50 to kick a goal.
 Tutt had 21 touches, DVR 18, Smith 16 and a goal, C Curnow 12 touches and a goal.

The NB's have very active facebook and twitter accounts, if you are interested in following them, this is where I get most of my info.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: jeza on March 12, 2016, 03:53:49 pm
https://amp.twimg.com/v/a906c336-7a29-4ad8-a916-dba4e90262d0
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: DJC on March 12, 2016, 04:23:09 pm
What a goal  :o

I like the way Byrne goes about his footy  :)
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 12, 2016, 07:27:55 pm
What a goal  :o

I like the way Byrne goes about his footy  :)

x 2...Byrne has the goods and should be  pushing for senior selection, his attacking style is ready made for modern footy and he is a very nice kick for an International recruit.

Liam Jones may have done enough with his 3 goals to get a rnd1 gig... the NB's only kicked 6 goals for the day so its going to be a struggle for both Blues teams to hit the scoreboard this season IMO....
Jaksch reckons he was sore after the game due to not playing for so long so i reckon you can count him out for rnd 1....he needs more games to get some fitness...
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: jeza on March 12, 2016, 07:55:54 pm
Liam Jones may have done enough with his 3 goals to get a rnd1 gig...

Please god no.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: Thryleon on March 12, 2016, 07:58:57 pm
We have no option but to play Jones.

He's crap but he's unfortunately the best we have that didn't play yesterday and is going to be ready for round one.

Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: jeza on March 12, 2016, 08:00:33 pm
We really need to get games into Byrne and Charlie.

Not sure if we can just leave them in the team regardless of form but they both just need games.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: jeza on March 12, 2016, 08:01:34 pm
We have no option but to play Jones.

He's crap but he's unfortunately the best we have that didn't play yesterday and is going to be ready for round one.

I don't agree. He'll play a full game and walk off with 2 possessions. What's the point. May as well give that spot to Charlie.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 12, 2016, 08:28:32 pm
We have no option but to play Jones.

He's crap but he's unfortunately the best we have that didn't play yesterday and is going to be ready for round one.

Agree......Foster has done nothing so far and like I said Jaksch needs more work and would only come in if we had mega injuries.

I reckon Jones will play CHF with Philips as the 2nd ruckman and Casboult at FF....Jones can maybe create some pressure by laying a few tackles
and blocking out for the likes of Walker and Everitt who will probably get a run forward.
From memory Jones has a decent record vs the Tigers and as you say I dont think we have any alternative....I'm not sure either if Bolton is that fussed
about winning at this stage and more about structure/discipline and working who can do what and who follows directions better..
Be great to beat the Tigers and I give us some chance as they are such a fickled team who can trouble the Hawks but also drop games vs weaker clubs.....maybe Jones can play the way Bolton wants and sacrifice for the team and let others do the scoring...
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: Professer E on March 12, 2016, 09:26:29 pm
Byrne's' goal was simply outstanding.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: kruddler on March 12, 2016, 09:43:23 pm
Liam Jones may have done enough with his 3 goals to get a rnd1 gig... the NB's only kicked 6 goals for the day so its going to be a struggle for both Blues teams to hit the scoreboard this season IMO...

Yeah tough call on Jones, but i think you'll find him in the R1 team. He's a step above the VFL...



....development league that is.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: Mondy on March 12, 2016, 09:55:22 pm
Yeah tough call on Jones, but i think you'll find him in the R1 team. He's a step above the VFL...



....development league that is.

Yes.  Seriously Curnow has to play before Jones.  As said above two touches from will be more valuable in the long term than Jones list clogging output.

Byrne will definitely get senior games this year if he remains injury free. 
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: DJC on March 12, 2016, 10:22:20 pm
x 2...Byrne has the goods and should be  pushing for senior selection, his attacking style is ready made for modern footy and he is a very nice kick for an International recruit.

Liam Jones may have done enough with his 3 goals to get a rnd1 gig... the NB's only kicked 6 goals for the day so its going to be a struggle for both Blues teams to hit the scoreboard this season IMO....
Jaksch reckons he was sore after the game due to not playing for so long so i reckon you can count him out for rnd 1....he needs more games to get some fitness...

Let's not get carried away EB  ;)

Next week's game against the Tigers may present another option - with a bit of luck  ::)

Jones does provide more physicality around the contest than Gorringe does and they're pretty much line ball in their other footy attributes.

I'd be inclined to go with Charlie Curnow; he can take a mark and Rance couldn't run off him.

Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: cookie2 on March 12, 2016, 10:37:55 pm
OK Jones kicked 3 goals in the VFL but is that enough to convince BB to bring him in for R1? I suspect not and I think he'll have to develop more consistency in the VFL before he gets considered for another go with the seniors. BB was talking in his post mtch about the need to develop alternative avenues to goal via mids and smaller forwards, plus the need to develop a pressure small forward. That may be the way we go in R1, rather than persisting with an option that has consistently failed at senior level?
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: LoveNavy on March 13, 2016, 01:21:19 am
https://amp.twimg.com/v/a906c336-7a29-4ad8-a916-dba4e90262d0

Speed, endurance, accuracy, and confidence...... Clone that ;)

How did Foster and Jaksch, and Glass-McCasker go?
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: Juddkreuzer on March 13, 2016, 01:29:13 am
 Jaksch and Jones are probably the 2 blokes under the pump. I can't see Foster even registering on the scale of selection. Personally I don't care if all 3 are delisted and Bolts and SOS bring in more credible personnel.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: BluePhantom on March 13, 2016, 06:28:01 pm
OK Jones kicked 3 goals in the VFL but is that enough to convince BB to bring him in for R1? I suspect not and I think he'll have to develop more consistency in the VFL before he gets considered for another go with the seniors. BB was talking in his post mtch about the need to develop alternative avenues to goal via mids and smaller forwards, plus the need to develop a pressure small forward. That may be the way we go in R1, rather than persisting with an option that has consistently failed at senior level?

He has only come to that conclusion? :o

We need to have a spread of leading forwards, no more of this bombing and hoping.
We have always burst out of the backline and pin pointed passes up the wing only to automatically play on and bomb the ball to a 2 or 3 on 1. Hasn't worked and will never work!
We need to get the ball to half forward then assess the options, we seem to play on regardless and the forwards are never in the right position because they are buggered from running from the backline. ::)

leave 2 or 3 targets up forward with the instruction to lead in patterns and the ball carrier to honour the leads.
Works for other teams so why not us? :o
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: laj on March 13, 2016, 06:34:46 pm
Jaksch and Jones are probably the 2 blokes under the pump. I can't see Foster even registering on the scale of selection. Personally I don't care if all 3 are delisted and Bolts and SOS bring in more credible personnel.

We haven't had the chance to find out how good Jaksch is. Guessing his pre-season was interrupted this year too given we've only just seen him. He's not long turned 21. Carlton are confident he'll be a 10 year forward. He only played 3rd tall defence last year to develop him. Once he put on the size and developed they were moving him forward. That's what McKay said in an interview with SEN last year.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: Juddkreuzer on March 13, 2016, 06:45:04 pm
We haven't had the chance to find out how good Jaksch is. Guessing his pre-season was interrupted this year too given we've only just seen him. He's not long turned 21. Carlton are confident he'll be a 10 year forward. He only played 3rd tall defence last year to develop him. Once he put on the size and developed they were moving him forward. That's what McKay said in an interview with SEN last year.

Yeah I agree and I haven't written Jaksch off yet. It may be just a throw away line, but it did raise my eyebrows when Bolts in his pre game presser was asked when we could expect to see Jaksch back in the seniors. His reply was a sharp "form dictates selection" made me question if Bolts is underwhelmed by his efforts to date.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: Thryleon on March 13, 2016, 07:15:26 pm
Here is hoping that it's about setting standards.

It would be easy to just play whoever and call it development,  but you have to encourage competition for spots and pick players on their merits otherwise people assume you're playing favourites.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: kruddler on March 13, 2016, 07:59:23 pm
Jaksch will be our best 'recruit' for the 2017 season.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: jeza on March 13, 2016, 09:22:53 pm
He has only come to that conclusion? :o

We need to have a spread of leading forwards, no more of this bombing and hoping.
We have always burst out of the backline and pin pointed passes up the wing only to automatically play on and bomb the ball to a 2 or 3 on 1. Hasn't worked and will never work!
We need to get the ball to half forward then assess the options, we seem to play on regardless and the forwards are never in the right position because they are buggered from running from the backline. ::)

leave 2 or 3 targets up forward with the instruction to lead in patterns and the ball carrier to honour the leads.
Works for other teams so why not us? :o

We can work the overlap quite well and spot up short passes down the ground but for some reason we get within 70m of goal and we put the brain in the back pocket and go the up and under EVERY ... SINGLE ... TIME!

This is not anything Bolton, Malthouse or Barker seem to be able to control.

There is a combination of dumb positioning / leads from the forwards and some bizarre ball use.

There is a mental block our blokes need to get over somehow but we can't keep repeating the same mistakes can we?
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: DJC on March 13, 2016, 09:44:57 pm
Yeah I agree and I haven't written Jaksch off yet. It may be just a throw away line, but it did raise my eyebrows when Bolts in his pre game presser was asked when we could expect to see Jaksch back in the seniors. His reply was a sharp "form dictates selection" made me question if Bolts is underwhelmed by his efforts to date.

Bolton's statement, together with SOS's kick in the pants comment suggests that Jaksch has a way to go before he'll get a run.  Bolton did also comment on Jaksch's ability to play forward and back and that indicates that he's very much the sort of player Bolton would like in the side.

I suspect that Jaksch holds the key to his future and I hope that he isn't 2017 recruit of the year for a state league side. 
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: Thryleon on April 08, 2016, 10:20:02 am
http://northernbluesfc.com.au/?page_id=25

The NB's have finalised their 48 man list for the year, so this might be a good link to have on hand for anyone who might need some information about them.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2016
Post by: Baggers on April 08, 2016, 11:29:08 am
Bolton's statement, together with SOS's kick in the pants comment suggests that Jaksch has a way to go before he'll get a run.  Bolton did also comment on Jaksch's ability to play forward and back and that indicates that he's very much the sort of player Bolton would like in the side.

I suspect that Jaksch holds the key to his future and I hope that he isn't 2017 recruit of the year for a state league side.

Gee I'd like to see this guy iron out his movement/kicking deficiencies because there are other attributes he's shown which are really promising. He's taken some really good contested marks in the past two weeks and does read the play well.