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Princes Park => Robert Heatley Stand => Topic started by: kruddler on March 04, 2023, 11:03:34 am

Poll
Question: Who is in our best 22?
Option 1: 1 - Jack Silvagni votes: 14
Option 2: 2 - Paddy Dow votes: 1
Option 3: 3 - Jesse Motlop votes: 15
Option 4: 4 - Lochie O'Brien votes: 4
Option 5: 5 - Adam Cerra votes: 15
Option 6: **6 - Zac Williams** Ineligible (out for season) votes: 0
Option 7: 7 - Matt Kennedy votes: 14
Option 8: 8 - Lachie Fogarty votes: 0
Option 9: 9 - Patrick Cripps votes: 15
Option 10: 10 - Harry McKay votes: 15
Option 11: 11 - Mitch McGovern votes: 14
Option 12: 12 - Tom De Koning votes: 14
Option 13: 13 - Blake Acres votes: 15
Option 14: 14 - Oliver Hollands votes: 8
Option 15: 15 - Sam Docherty votes: 15
Option 16: 16 - Jack Carroll votes: 0
Option 17: 17 - Brodie Kemp votes: 1
Option 18: 18 - Sam Walsh votes: 12
Option 19: 19 - Corey Durdin votes: 9
Option 20: 20 - Lachie Plowman votes: 2
Option 21: 21 - Jack Martin votes: 12
Option 22: 22 - Caleb Marchbank votes: 5
Option 23: 23 - Jacob Weitering votes: 15
Option 24: 24 - Nick Newman votes: 14
Option 25: 25 - Zac Fisher votes: 13
Option 26: 26 - Lachlan Cowan votes: 5
Option 27: 27 - Marc Pittonet votes: 14
Option 28: 28 - David Cuningham votes: 2
Option 29: 29 - George Hewitt votes: 15
Option 30: 30 - Charlie Curnow votes: 15
Option 31: 31 - Harry Lemmey votes: 0
Option 32: 32 - Jaxon Binns votes: 0
Option 33: 33 - Lewis Young votes: 15
Option 34: **34 - Sam Philp** Ineligible (out for season) votes: 0
Option 35: 35 - Ed Curnow votes: 0
Option 36: 36 - Josh Honey votes: 1
Option 37: 37 - Jordan Boyd votes: 0
Option 38: 38 - Sam Durdin votes: 0
Option 39: 41 - Dom Akuei votes: 0
Option 40: 42 - Adam Saad votes: 15
Option 41: 44 - Matt Owies votes: 1
Option 42: 45 - Alex Mirkov votes: 0
Option 43: 46 - Matthew Cottrell votes: 3
Option 44: New - Alex Cincotta - Injury replacement player votes: 2
Option 45: New - Hudson O'Keefe - Injury replacement player votes: 0
Title: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: kruddler on March 04, 2023, 11:03:34 am
OK, well time to reevaluate.

We've seen most of the boys play a couple of pre-season games. Who is in your best 22 side now? Be very surprised if we end up with the same 22.

I've added Philp to the ineligible list and included Cincotta and O'Keefe as replacement players.

For the record, i'm aware there will be 23 players (22 plus a sub) but for traditions sake, we are sticking with a best 22.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: kruddler on March 04, 2023, 11:17:06 am
My changes

OUT: C. Durdin, Owies, and O'Brien
IN: Cowan, Hollands and Motlop

Little bit more urgency, enthusiasm and x-factor.

STILL OUT: Plowman, TDK, Ed.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 04, 2023, 02:34:03 pm
23rd man either Carroll or Pitto (I voted him in the 22 assuming we will play two rucks).
Moo and Dutchy in for me
Like Cincotta's toughness and kicking skills so he plays rnd 1 for mine.
3.5 new arrivals play in my side.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: LP on March 04, 2023, 03:56:38 pm
Cowan and Hollands really put their hands up, but it's only a practise game.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 04, 2023, 05:45:18 pm
23rd man either Carroll or Pitto (I voted him in the 22 assuming we will play two rucks).
Moo and Dutchy in for me
Like Cincotta's toughness and kicking skills so he plays rnd 1 for mine.
3.5 new arrivals play in my side.

I think the makeup of the Richmond team is what we need to look at also when selecting players....you would be wanting to make sure Cowan, Cincotta for example didnt end up on the likes of Martin and Bolton down forward when rotations were on.
Its a different Tiger lineup this season with Cotchin also playing forward and we need to get every matchup spot on given we have a few defenders who like to play off their man and ball chase.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: pinot on March 04, 2023, 11:34:37 pm
B: Newman   Young   McGovern
HB: Cincotta  Weitering  Saad
C: Acres     Hewett    Hollands
HF: Martin   McKay   Kennedy
F: Motlop   Curnow  Silvagni
R: Pittonet  Cripps Docherty
IC: Cerra Fisher Cowman  TDK - Owies
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 05, 2023, 08:18:14 am
B: Newman   Young   McGovern
HB: Cincotta  Weitering  Saad
C: Acres     Hewett    Hollands
HF: Martin   McKay   Kennedy
F: Motlop   Curnow  Silvagni
R: Pittonet  Cripps Docherty
IC: Cerra Fisher Cowman  TDK - Owies
I had Carroll instead of Owies but same 22. I think Carroll showed way more than Owies the other night even with the limited time he spent on the ground.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: Baggers on March 05, 2023, 09:29:56 am
B: Newman   Young   McGovern
HB: Cowan   Weitering  Saad
C: Acres     Hewett    Hollands
HF: Silvagni   McKay   Cerra
F: Motlop   Curnow  Small Durds
R: Pittonet  Cripps  Docherty
IC: Kennedy  Fisher TDK  Martin
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: LP on March 05, 2023, 12:02:20 pm
B: Newman  Young  McGovern
HB: Cowan  Weitering  Saad
C: Acres    Hewett    Hollands
HF: Silvagni  McKay  Cerra
F: Motlop  Curnow  Small Durds
R: Pittonet  Cripps  Docherty
IC: Kennedy  Fisher TDK  Martin
No Walsh! :o

I'd have Walsh in the 22 with zero games even if he looked like this bloke!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnVMDNRjgoBAFfEGNj9B0wdyykriknT5ayLtmOWhHOfNQ70QJv1wt7OmLU_Er6gU5QBq8&usqp=CAU)

Remember the new sub rule is in play, you can plan to give blokes just a quarter or two!
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 05, 2023, 03:53:38 pm
B Saad Weitering McGovern
HB Docherty Young Newman
C Acres Cripps Cerra
HF Kennedy C. Curnow J. Silvagni
F C Durdin, McKay Motlop
R: TDK, Hewett, Walsh
Int Pittonet, Hollands, Fisher, Cowan
Sub Martin(Hopefully he doesnt get injured putting the vest on)

Hollands and Cowan to start on the bench and eased into the game at the right moments vs the right players. eg Dont want to see Hollands start on the wing and find Richmond are giving him Shai Bolton for company with a last minute switch.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: kruddler on March 05, 2023, 06:56:21 pm
B Saad Weitering McGovern
HB Docherty Young Newman
C Acres Cripps Cerra
HF Kennedy C. Curnow J. Silvagni
F C Durdin, McKay Motlop
R: TDK, Hewett, Walsh
Int Pittonet, Hollands, Fisher, Cowan
Sub Martin(Hopefully he doesnt get injured putting the vest on)

Hollands and Cowan to start on the bench and eased into the game at the right moments vs the right players. eg Dont want to see Hollands start on the wing and find Richmond are giving him Shai Bolton for company with a last minute switch.
I've got Martin starting in front of Durdin.
I've got Marchbank instead of TDK (with McG playing forward with SOS rucking backup)
Otherwise the same.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: hitman on March 05, 2023, 08:59:24 pm
I've got Martin starting in front of Durdin.
I've got Marchbank instead of TDK (with McG playing forward with SOS rucking backup)
Otherwise the same.

If McG plays forward let alone fit to play I will buy you slab of choice.
Can't see them take a risk on Walsh round 1
Last inj report Marchbank injured again so not sure about him either.
B Saad Weitering Cincotta
HB Docherty Young Newman
C Acres Cripps O Brien
HF Kennedy C. Curnow Fisher
F Durdin McKay Motlop
R: TDK, Hewett, Cerra
Int Pittonet, Hollands, Cowan, Owies
Sub Martin(Hopefully he doesn't get injured putting the vest on)
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 05, 2023, 09:02:43 pm
I've got Martin starting in front of Durdin.
I've got Marchbank instead of TDK (with McG playing forward with SOS rucking backup)
Otherwise the same.
Didn't really consider Marchbank as I can't see him playing enough games as a regular senior player.
McGovern down forward is interesting and  I don't mind some left field thinking but I prefer him down back.
Martin needs to show me he is fit and firing and play a decent string of games back to back before I would consider him as a starter.
TDK and Pittonet is my preferred ruck set up with Jack used less in the backup role.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: Baggers on March 05, 2023, 09:24:48 pm
No Walsh! :o

I'd have Walsh in the 22 with zero games even if he looked like this bloke!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnVMDNRjgoBAFfEGNj9B0wdyykriknT5ayLtmOWhHOfNQ70QJv1wt7OmLU_Er6gU5QBq8&usqp=CAU)

Remember the new sub rule is in play, you can plan to give blokes just a quarter or two!

I chose a side for R1 from those available.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: DJC on March 05, 2023, 09:28:27 pm
B Saad Weitering McGovern
HB Docherty Young Newman
C Acres Cripps Cerra
HF Kennedy C. Curnow J. Silvagni
F C Durdin, McKay Motlop
R: TDK, Hewett, Walsh
Int Pittonet, Hollands, Fisher, Cowan
Sub Martin(Hopefully he doesnt get injured putting the vest on)

Hollands and Cowan to start on the bench and eased into the game at the right moments vs the right players. eg Dont want to see Hollands start on the wing and find Richmond are giving him Shai Bolton for company with a last minute switch.

I think you’ve nailed it EB.

The only complication is the MC’s determination to rotate Docherty between midfield and defence.  That could mean an extra defender and one less midfielder/forward.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 05, 2023, 09:50:01 pm
I think you’ve nailed it EB.

The only complication is the MC’s determination to rotate Docherty between midfield and defence.  That could mean an extra defender and one less midfielder/forward.
Fair point DJ.....Id probably see Cowan take that relief HB role and Docherty swung onball and the player he replaced have a rest on the pine. Otherwise that extra defender would probably have to come in ...from either Plowman or Cincotta....I like the latter but not overly keen on three newbies in the team especially first up vs Richmond and then Geelong.

Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: kruddler on March 05, 2023, 10:02:36 pm
If McG plays forward let alone fit to play I will buy you slab of choice.
Can't see them take a risk on Walsh round 1
Last inj report Marchbank injured again so not sure about him either.
B Saad Weitering Cincotta
HB Docherty Young Newman
C Acres Cripps O Brien
HF Kennedy C. Curnow Fisher
F Durdin McKay Motlop
R: TDK, Hewett, Cerra
Int Pittonet, Hollands, Cowan, Owies
Sub Martin(Hopefully he doesn't get injured putting the vest on)
The best 22 should be picked based on the assumption that everyone is 100% fit.
(Eccept those out for the year)
We are trying to achieve an ideal best 22 and track changes in our thinking throughout the year. Injuries from one week to the next should not alter that thinking.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: DJC on March 05, 2023, 10:41:30 pm
Although it would be Cincotta’s first AFL game, he is a mature player with several VFL seasons under his belt and I think he’d take it in his stride.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: pinot on March 05, 2023, 10:42:26 pm
Heard rumours that Walshy has been given the go ahead by medicos
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: pinot on March 05, 2023, 10:45:22 pm
Although it would be Cincotta’s first AFL game, he is a mature player with several VFL seasons under his belt and I think he’d take it in his stride.

Cincotta like Saad and Williams are critical - due to their leg speed, dash, taking the game on and foot skills. Despite his age he will only get better with more and more training session he has the talent.

He can defend and tackle hard. Cowman is more of a lock down like dare I say it Bruce Doull!

Plowman should never get a game ahead of Cowman and Kemp.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - PART 2 - After the pre-season games
Post by: kruddler on March 12, 2023, 07:02:52 pm
Last chance to vote before round 1