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Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #30
Postscript: Boyd seems seems to be travelling ok at the moment. Maybe early impressions were premature?
Better than ok last night. Thought he was excellent. Amazing the difference when we recruit players who can actually kick a football.
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Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #31
Kennedy had 0 also. They had 4 with zero, so did we, you get that in games. I thought LOB was pretty good int he conditions.

Yes, O’Brien’s defensive efforts against much larger opponents saved several goals.  He worked hard both ways and you don’t have to tackle to provide defensive pressure.
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Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #32
That was pretty bizarre when you think about it.

We went into the game thinking we'd have real problems in defence and if we won it would be because of a  better attack and midfield.
What happened was the opposite. Our forwards and midfield were the problem and the defence stood up pretty well.
Lynch and Riewoldt got 5 between them which was an OK effort but not the dominance we thought might occur.
A lot of that was due to the assistance our tall defenders received from the smaller back...and yes conditions were also a help.

I think we probably saw glimpses of what our selectors see in Boyd.
The lad brings effort and when he has time to execute his foot is a bit of a weapon.

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Reply #33
What does it mean to umpire a game?
/ˈʌm.paɪr/ uk. /ˈʌm.paɪər/ a person who is present at a sports competition in order to make certain that the rules of that particular game are obeyed and to judge if particular actions are acceptable.

It seems in the AFL the Umpires can adjudge decisions unfairly and have a bias towards a particular team.
The AFL builds up these Thursday night blockbuster games so they should select or tell the umpires to be fair and reasonable.
Whether this is real or perceived is another thing but umpires should not become the centre of the conversation after a game.
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Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #34
I am still very upset about last night, we got completely screwed. Holding the ball, hanging onto players, if Harry got the free kicks Lynch gets he kick 150 a year. The two goal line decisions were exactly 180 flips Docherty's cannot be overturned as there is not enough evidence, fair enough, then the second one must be the same?

The Tigers time is just about done, they end will likely come fast for them, eight players over 30 to none last night.
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Reply #35
If Pittonet was playing they would have had to play Soldo which would have changed the entire match.

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #36
So if you're close to an opposition player who is about to snap for goal don't forget your "Jazz hands" ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwCUE9BAU6M

Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #37
I lot on here were adamant after seeing Boyd for a grand total of 2 games that he was a dud and made no sense why he was being picked in any capacity.

I trust those same posters may have changed their mind as this kid can play. He is tough goes hard and has a beautiful field kick on both sides and I would say that's the point of difference why he is getting a game over Stocker who can be a little iffy by foot.

These injuries as bad as they are for us has allowed some of the kids to fast track their development.  Blokes like Cottrell, LOB, Boyd, Young TDK to name a few.

Maybe these injuries may be a small blessing in the bigger picture, our list has not appeared this deep for decades.
 
 


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Reply #38
Umps screwed us a bit but we didn't play to the conditions that well imo and the Tiggers took full advantage.  We played out the game well and nearly pinched it and hopefully the lessons were learned.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #39
One of the worst umpiring decisions last night was when one of our players ( I think it was Cripps) was penalsied 50m for not handing the ball back straight away.
I'm not sure how he could have done that as the Richmond player was walking back to take his kick with his back turned.

Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #40
Nauseating - the in game commentary.  I nearly stopped watching because of it.  I wonder if it was Doggies v Tigs whether I would have noticed so much (probably not, because I wouldn't be invested and it would be just on in the background).

Blind Freddy could see that we were trying to play dry weather footy when it seemed to be quite heavy rain - probably not the way to go.

As others have mentioned, conditions suited Richmond, particularly when it was raining.  We were much better when it wasn't raining.

We held up pretty well considering our 'outs' -maybe our midfield has been worked out by the opposition, so don't have the freedoms that they had earlier in the season.

There is a tough run home - 5 teams in the 8 + Pies, players coming back for WC, we struggle against Giants.  If we make the finals, we will definitely deserve it.

Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #41
That first qtr and a half was a real throwback to former years. The toughness at the contest and hunger for the contest was absent. And it cost us the game. This habit of a qtr or two of allowing the opposition to dictate terms and strangle our strengths will undermine success. We should know and be prepared for good oppositions, which are well coached, to come at our strengths/expose our weaknesses, and I have no doubt we are... but it aint working. The first qtr and a half was undisciplined and just not smart in the conditions.

Thank the gods our group has a bona fide 'never surrender' embedded attitude. Great foundations.

Holding the Tiggers to what could have been a losing score (11.15), after 76 inside 50s, talks to the Herculean efforts from our defense... especially Doc, Boyd and Saad. It also says a lot about our midfield, which aint so good. Tall Durds fitted in well and will only get better. Young, also, will only improve and after a wonky start was good. Plow gave us the usual... some really good stuff and some 'gulps'.

Cotterell and LOB worked their @rses off. Cotters continues to grow.

Concerns: small forwards... they work hard but are losing impact. Fisher, after having his legs taken out from under him illegally (really, umpire  ::)  ::)  ::) ) just lied there and pleaded for the free... get up and on with it young fella, while you're lying there protesting the game has continued and you're needed in the contest... seems just a bit too indicative. Is Bam Bam down a bit? Is Jack Martin the new 'Cameo King?'

Not happy seeing JSOS flying the flag against an opponent, quickly joined by a couple of Tiggers but no navy blue support. That's not 'our way.'

Not the end of the world, and we know we're a work in progress... and are missing some key personnel. We could well find ourselves in 7th place by the end of the round. Really looking forward to seeing how we respond against the D1ckers.
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Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #42
Sorry to dampen all your hopes guys but lets be realistic and take off those rosey color glasses for a minute please.   We just lost to a side that is not even in the 8!   Those who are pumping up LOB- he had 0 tackles.  He's rubbish.  Fisher the same.  Thats why we conceded 70+ inside 50's.  We need tough wingmen, not soft coc@! who run up the wing getting the odd kick and looking good.  Cotrell is, was and always will be a spud.  You cannot polish a turd.  Durden (big one) the same.  Also Walsh.  We all love him but have you seen his meters gained this year?  It's putrid.  He is disposal seeking, then giving it off too quick to avoid contact.  Needs to get that out of his game because it is costing us.  Kennedy very poor in the wet.  Went up and down on the Heavy 10 track like the thing I backed at Flemington in the last on Saturday which is still comming.  Needs to work on his running, if that is genetically possible.  Well Cripps did it so maybe he can otherwise he will be delisted next contract.    Martin is a thief and should be delisted also to make way for Amon at the end of the year.   My final comment will piss people off, but i am happy to revist and requote at the end of the year for those who are going to abuse me now.  Here it is:  "We will not make finals in 2022" after losing this pathetic game to Richmond.  I'm serious.  We need 4 more wins.  Where are they comming from ?  Maybe WC is one.  Maybe.  Adelaide?  Good luck with that on their ground.  Rest of them... doubtful.    We had an easy draw and bathed in the glory. 

Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #43
Sorry to dampen all your hopes guys but lets be realistic and take off those rosey color glasses for a minute please.   We just lost to a side that is not even in the 8!   Those who are pumping up LOB- he had 0 tackles.  He's rubbish.  Fisher the same.  Thats why we conceded 70+ inside 50's.  We need tough wingmen, not soft coc@! who run up the wing getting the odd kick and looking good.  Cotrell is, was and always will be a spud.  You cannot polish a turd.  Durden (big one) the same.  Also Walsh.  We all love him but have you seen his meters gained this year?  It's putrid.  He is disposal seeking, then giving it off too quick to avoid contact.  Needs to get that out of his game because it is costing us.  Kennedy very poor in the wet.  Went up and down on the Heavy 10 track like the thing I backed at Flemington in the last on Saturday which is still comming.  Needs to work on his running, if that is genetically possible.  Well Cripps did it so maybe he can otherwise he will be delisted next contract.    Martin is a thief and should be delisted also to make way for Amon at the end of the year.   My final comment will piss people off, but i am happy to revist and requote at the end of the year for those who are going to abuse me now.  Here it is:  "We will not make finals in 2022" after losing this pathetic game to Richmond.  I'm serious.  We need 4 more wins.  Where are they comming from ?  Maybe WC is one.  Maybe.  Adelaide?  Good luck with that on their ground.  Rest of them... doubtful.    We had an easy draw and bathed in the glory.

Actually, we lost to a side who are one game off top 4, a good chance of getting there, and a good chance really challenging. They're win/loss ratio is the same as in their last premiership year. We know they build through a season and peak nicely. We didn't even play well, gave them a 6 goal start and still nearly got up with "half the side" out. Stop trying to work out where wins will come from as we'll win a few of those big games, lose a few but will be enough. 4 wins will do.

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Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #44
Will need 14 wins to make the 8
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!