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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7215
Wonder who was running the show when the Perth Mint started diddling the gold standards.  Now there's something people should be up in arms over.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7216
Wonder who was running the show when the Perth Mint started diddling the gold standards.  Now there's something people should be up in arms over.
In fairness to the mint, I believe it complies with globally accepted standards, 4.0 purity(99.99%) and usually supplies above 4.0 with something like 4.5(99.995).

China sits outside those standards, oddly it doesn't require higher purity but it does cap the level of impurities. It's standard practise to "water down" gold to 4.0, usually something less valuable like silver, copper or titanium. What China requires is that any one of those trace metals doesn't exceed a certain threshold, in a way it's China fiddling the books, gaming the system, so that it receives higher purity gold than other nations. I suppose when you think about it, given countries trade in billions and trillions of dollars worth of gold, it adds up in the parts per million.

Managing the purity as close to 4.0 as possible saves a country many millions or even billions of dollars.

For most metals the term commercially pure is used, typically this means the content is above 4.0, it may also mean that certain impurities are minimised or absent, commonly oxygen or hydrogen content are the main concern. Some metals have critical trace element levels, like copper levels in aluminium or titanium.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7217
Let’s not forget Dan did get to Covid zero before the infected from Sydney brought it back to Melbourne. And when it became clear that Omicron could no longer be contained, the approach in Victoria shifted. No doubt his critics would say that there was never any point trying to contain Covid as it was always going to mutate. I assume some of them also believed that Putin would conquer Ukraine in 3 days.
I think Andrews and Sutton did as good a job as they could under trying circumstances. Lots of uncertainty and  unknowns. If they had have "let it rip", the unacceptable death toll would be the topic today's discussion. I'm glad they were  conservative and cautious, public safety was his no.1 goal.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7218
I think Andrews and Sutton did as good a job as they could under trying circumstances. Lots of uncertainty and  unknowns. If they had have "let it rip", the unacceptable death toll would be the topic today's discussion. I'm glad they were  conservative and cautious, public safety was his no.1 goal.

I think that all of our governments did a pretty good job under the circumstances.

If you look at the current scientific literature, folk who know their stuff are still concerned about the impacts of COVID on health systems and the vulnerable, as well as the ongoing effects of long COVID.  It's laughable that self-taught epidemiologists are claiming that we got it wrong.

By the way, I'm still a NOVID despite being fairly relaxed about mask wearing and social contacts  :)
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7219
I think that all of our governments did a pretty good job under the circumstances.

If you look at the current scientific literature, folk who know their stuff are still concerned about the impacts of COVID on health systems and the vulnerable, as well as the ongoing effects of long COVID.  It's laughable that self-taught epidemiologists are claiming that we got it wrong.

By the way, I'm still a NOVID despite being fairly relaxed about mask wearing and social contacts  :)
Depends on the settings you attend, I have 4 family members who went on a cruise, got back last week all with Covid.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7220
Depends on the settings you attend, I have 4 family members who went on a cruise, got back last week all with Covid.

My son and daughter in law got it during a flight back from Bali.

I travel on the train to Melbourne and back, go to the footy, attend RSL meetings, go to restaurants and functions, stand in queues, and have been with family members days before they tested positive.  I’m fully vaccinated and will get my fifth shot soon.  My only concern is that my mobile phone reception hasn’t improved 😇
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7221
^^  I was much the same.  Train to and from the city to work full time, went to hawaii on a full flight and back.  Milled around, went to the footy, went to the tennis.

I don't know where I caught covid but I tested positive on the 31st of December last year, started feeling unwell the day before, and before that, had been in the city at Crown staying in for 3 nights.  Had my 40th birthday party at the Esplanade hotel, and had Christmas.

I was the only person to have turned up positive from my birthday to the best of my knowledge.  Its possible my brother carried it with him from the UK on Christmas eve, but he wasnt sick and never tested positive.  Mum did, but I doubt she gave it to me, as I didnt go near her when she was positive, and no one else at christmas caught it.

This is all very strange really. 

It seems very random.
"everything you know is wrong"

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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7222
^^  I was much the same.  Train to and from the city to work full time, went to hawaii on a full flight and back.  Milled around, went to the footy, went to the tennis.

I don't know where I caught covid but I tested positive on the 31st of December last year, started feeling unwell the day before, and before that, had been in the city at Crown staying in for 3 nights.  Had my 40th birthday party at the Esplanade hotel, and had Christmas.

I was the only person to have turned up positive from my birthday to the best of my knowledge.  Its possible my brother carried it with him from the UK on Christmas eve, but he wasnt sick and never tested positive.  Mum did, but I doubt she gave it to me, as I didnt go near her when she was positive, and no one else at christmas caught it.

This is all very strange really. 

It seems very random.

Happy 40th for late last year, 3 Leos. Also a later December birthday boy... ordinary time for a birthday!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7223
Interesting theory concerning Covid resistance: Genes That Helped Us Survive Black Death Continue to Influence Our Mortality Today, ScienceAlert.com

Apparently, having identical copies of the ERAP2 gene makes it 40-50% more likely to survive the Black Death or other respiratory diseases. Unfortunately, a phenomenon called ‘balancing selection’ suggests that that pair of identical genes also makes it more likely that the person will suffer from Crohn’s disease and diabetes type 1.

That’s worth remembering for those who like to extrapolate from their own experiences. The fact that person A avoids Covid or finds it was nothing to worry about after being infected doesn’t suggest the Covid response was overblown, especially if the vaccine made a contribution. Genetic differences can help or hurt. And unfortunately what you gain on the roundabout you might lose on the swings.

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Reply #7224
Unleash the Kraken!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7225
Happy 40th for late last year, 3 Leos. Also a later December birthday boy... ordinary time for a birthday!
it really does suck Baggers.

I had a venue verbally say they'd host my 40th only to pull out by 7th of December which made getting another venue VERY difficult.  Managed to pull it off but fork me dead that was stressful.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7226
it really does suck Baggers.

I had a venue verbally say they'd host my 40th only to pull out by 7th of December which made getting another venue VERY difficult.  Managed to pull it off but fork me dead that was stressful.

P1ss poor form from the venue. Glad you found a venue... at one of the most difficult times of the year!

The one time having a birthday late December was great - my 21st. The old man put up a huge tent, spread about 10 square metres of topsoil inside, set up a jukebox, tubs of ice and grog, copious amounts of food. We invited relos & friends from Sydney and Canberra who joined us from Christmas. Weather was hot so everyone slept in the house, in the tent, on floors and on the lawns! Christmas celebrations went for a couple of days, recovery 27th, birthday celebrations on the 28th went for a few days, then NY celebrations! Last person left around Jan 3rd! What a week! Since then, crickets and tumbleweeds... and socks for birthday gifts  ???
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7227
Are you a boxing day baby too?
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7229
I was the only person to have turned up positive from my birthday to the best of my knowledge.  Its possible my brother carried it with him from the UK on Christmas eve, but he wasnt sick and never tested positive.  Mum did, but I doubt she gave it to me, as I didnt go near her when she was positive, and no one else at christmas caught it.

This is all very strange really. 

It seems very random.
They now know people can hold a reservoir of virus that escapes the immune system, which emerges to cause a second round of infection later. I suppose if that is true, there will be many people who are asymptomatic but still potentially infectious despite testing negative.

Ultimately, it's just another reason to get vaccinated.

There is a young lass on Youtube called Physics Girl, people should search her up to find out what the risk of letting it run wild could be, because not dying doesn't mean you have escaped harm. They still do not fully understand why this happens, but they are getting an idea about who is more vulnerable, and it's a problem for young women in particular.
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