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Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #135 –
Quote from: 31Tommys_barber on
Don’t know if we have an improved team from last year or not, two kids and Ed Curnow in the side for the first game tells me not. Love Ed but if we are still giving him a game at this stage of his career we aren’t as deep as we think we are. Same with the kids, one maybe but two? If they were top two in the draft I could see it but they just aren’t physically strong enough yet to play big matches.
Hope I’m wrong
I look at the side and asked myself the same thing, is it better than last years.
Assuming Pitto plays as the sub
Out
Will Setterfield
Oscar McDonald
Corey Durdin   
Lochie O'Brien   
Zachary Williams
Tom Williamson

In
Hollands
Cowin
Acres
Young
Ed Curnow
Motlop   
Eds questionable form aside, I think its a stronger side.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #136 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
I look at the side and asked myself the same thing, is it better than last years.
Assuming Pitto plays as the sub
Out
Will Setterfield
Oscar McDonald
Corey Durdin   
Lochie O'Brien   
Zachary Williams
Tom Williamson

In
Hollands
Cowin
Acres
Young
Ed Curnow
Motlop   
Eds questionable form aside, I think its a stronger side.
Their ins and outs from rnd 1 last year
Lets assume their sub is Ross
Out
Jake Aarts
Shane Edwards
Robbie Tarrant
Jason Castagna
Ivan Soldo
Hugo Ralphsmith
Josh Gibcus

In
Vlaustuin
McKintosh
M Rioli
Miller
Hopper
Taranto
Mansell
Is their side stronger than last years? I think it is.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #137 –
Stronger on paper but a lot of these guys playing together for the first time.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #138 –
Re: Ed
Joel Selwood on The Front Bar.
Sam asks which players are hardest to play against.
Answer: Ed Curnow
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #139 –
Quote from: LoveNavy on
Re: Ed
Joel Selwood on The Front Bar.
Sam asks which players are hardest to play against.
Answer: Ed Curnow

Yes, I think that supporters focus too much on how often Ed gets the pill rather than on how little his opponents do.

His endurance and ability to make life difficult for his opponent means that there'll be a spot for him if the opposition has a player that needs attention.  Of course, we don't see how well players perform at training and, as match sims make up a lot of modern training sessions, Ed could well be in great form. 
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #140 –
Ed was playing as well as ever at the end of 2021.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #141 –
So who does he go to? Prestia, Taranto, Hopper or Martin?

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #142 –
This is a bit like the injury debate.
I mentioned it doesn't concern me anymore that the club is vague with injury information.
The vagueness isn't meant to trick or decieve an opposition club.
It's worth is to create uncertainty and have the opposition thinking multiple scenarios and planning for "what Ifs"
We've moved well past the shock of seeing a supposedly injured player lining up.
Clubs plan for a range of situations.


So Ed plays despite a long lay off and indifferent pre-season form.
Over at Richmond they're thinking 'why is he playing' and what will be his role.
Small forward, tagging mid fielder, small defender.
Ed's been around for long enough that he knows he doesn't have to bust a gut pre-season.
The young un's like Holland and Cowan need this time to show they're ready.
Ed doesn't.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #143 –
To be fair, I don’t think the Richmond coaches are going to be spending a great deal of time ruminating over where Ed will be playing. But it might be fun for us to guess.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #144 –
They wont be ruminating about where Ed is playing, but they will be wondering what our midfield setup looks like. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #145 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
They wont be ruminating about where Ed is playing, but they will be wondering what our midfield setup looks like. 

Yep
Other players will occupy much more of their attention, but it's all a piece of the puzzle.
We'll be doing the same when considering match-ups.
If they're playing they need some consideration.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #146 –
Quote from: LoveNavy on
Re: Ed
Joel Selwood on The Front Bar.
Sam asks which players are hardest to play against.
Answer: Ed Curnow
Maybe years gone by, lets see how he goes tonight.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #147 –
Quote from: Mav on
To be fair, I don’t think the Richmond coaches are going to be spending a great deal of time ruminating over where Ed will be playing. But it might be fun for us to guess.

I think that they will be, along with his 21 teammates and potential sub.  Very little is left to chance.

Their opposition analysts may be spending more time on Cripps, Harry, Charlie et al, but they will be planning how their players can counter Ed if he has a run with role or who should stand him if he plays as a high forward.

His absence last season will make that a more difficult task.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #148 –
Why isn't Plowman playing?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
 

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #149 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
Why isn't Plowman playing?

He could be the sub 🙂
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball