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Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #165 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
No I am not saying Cripps and Walshes B&Fs were bogus. Yes I am questioning the previous coaches' quality wrt rating
 and giving Plowman votes.
So under what mechanism do they become reliable assessor of some player and wildly inaccurate for another?

I'll presume the only answer you can offer is "When they pick him!" ;D

It'll be interesting to see which player cops the stay at home role tonight, and how long it takes for fans to sledge them?

It's probably 50/50 to be Cowan or Newman, at which time we go Edgar Allen Poe on them, "tch tch, ........... nevermore!" :o
The Force Awakens!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #166 –
Quote from: LP on
Plowman hardly got a vote in 2022 or 2018, what a spud.

https://www.blueseum.org/2022+Best+and+Fairest+Votes
https://www.blueseum.org/2021+Best+and+Fairest+Votes
https://www.blueseum.org/2020+Best+and+Fairest+Votes
https://www.blueseum.org/2019+Best+and+Fairest+Votes
https://www.blueseum.org/2018+Best+and+Fairest+Votes
https://www.blueseum.org/2017+Best+and+Fairest+Votes

2021, 2020, 2019, and 2017 were just lucky!

Hmm, it's obvious the coaches are failing because they do not listen to the fans! :o

The coaches didn't pick him in rd 1 last year or this year.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #167 –
Get a room boys. The Lachie Plowman Suite would be an ideal place to hammer each other to your hearts’ content.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #168 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
The coaches didn't pick him in rd 1 last year or this year.
Plowman only played 15 games last season, 9 wins - 6 losses, 60% win ratio.

When Plowman didn't play, 4 wins - 4 losses, 50% win ratio.

Yet some how fans seem to associate him with losses! :o

But the reality is very different from the perception, as it is for any whipping boy players, like the spud sMurph, the boat anchor Cottrell and Williams the chandelier.
The Force Awakens!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #169 –
Quote from: LP on
Is Ed the special case defender selected just to tag Dusty out of F50?

But looking at our team, I'd suggest we are hoping Dusty is starved of opportunity, we are setup to intercept across the HBF and not for defence at FB.
I dont trust anything Hardwick says about his players and the mixture of Dusty in the middle or forward isnt set in concrete. I'd expect Newman to pick Dusty up if he plays forward and a variety of players to rotate off him in the middle.
If he is one out down forward and gets enough supply then he will kick goals...thats a given, its going to be about the work up the ground, the pressure and accountability when Richmond run their usual rebound stuff with Short, Baker, Vlastuin etc delivering the ball down forward and following up.
If I see Baker or Short running forward alone and getting easy hand off receives  kicking goals then you know we are going to play the same unaccountable rubbish that sees us give up easy goals against the trend of play.
If I see those players prevented from running down field or being worn by their opponent I'll know things are going to be different and Voss has got players thinking about accountability and what they have to do when we dont have the ball and that means winning more games and a successful 2023.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #171 –
Quote from: LP on
Why so cynical @ElwoodBlues1? ;D

Dimma doesnt give you much so when he does you roll your eyes and try and think about something he said that was true and you find yourself struggling...Im surprised he hasnt started with Lynch and Reiwoldt get a hard time off umps and cant get a free kick etc etc and that our mids play too rough and Prestia needs protection....

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #172 –
Hardwick can be bit of a knob when it comes to the media, crapping on about the irrelevance of the MCG surface because Ed Sheeran was such a great concert!🙄
If Lynch or Martin do their knees in the first 5 mins he’ll be bitching louder than anybody else.
Everything he says to the media is a smokescreen.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #173 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
So he's not one of the first players picked?

Not any more, but I wouldn't think he was ever one of the first picked ... more like the last half dozen.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #174 –
Quote from: LP on
Is Ed the special case defender selected just to tag Dusty out of F50?

But looking at our team, I'd suggest we are hoping Dusty is starved of opportunity, we are setup to intercept across the HBF and not for defence at FB.
I said as much a couple weeks ago.

He could become our specialist lockdown defender. Someone who plays forward/mid and usually has an opponent covered in one of those spots.
Ed will hold his own in the middle, its just whether he can play as a lockdown defender when pushed deep forward. Considering how he plays midfield (tagging, accountable) the transisition should be an easy one to make.

I've spoken about my preference for Ed to retire as he has been surpassed by plenty in the middle and at his age (and injury status in 2022), i didn't much see the point of retaining him. I've revised that to the point where he might be useful in the role above. Dusty would very much be up his alley. We'll find out.
I'd play Plowman as the sub in case the above plan falls through. Swap Docherty/Saad to Dusty and let Plowman play more of an attacking QB/HBF role.......but he'd probably get throw onto Dusty anyway.

Biggest problem with Ed/Dusty is Ed has been injured, and out of form. Dusty is apparently the fittest he's ever been.....and thats a worry.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #175 –
Quote from: kruddler on
Biggest problem with Ed/Dusty is Ed has been injured, and out of form. Dusty is apparently the fittest he's ever been.....and thats a worry.
True, but they said that about Dusty last season after he came back after the wellbeing break, and to me he had never looked slower.

Franklin is a great example, and I think due to his size more capable of bridging the age gap than Dusty, but despite moments of glory Franklin mostly looks old, frustrated and slow.

Dusty, Ed, Buddy, whoever it may be, time catches up with everybody.
The Force Awakens!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #176 –
LOB looks to be the Sub
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
 

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #177 –
Quote from: DJC on
Josh Honey isn't named in the VFL squad so he must be the sub.
LOB out there, cant see Honey
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #178 –
LOB sub.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #179 –
Let’s hope nankervis doesn’t “accidentally” stick his knees into De Koning at the first bounce it’s a long game with Silvagni rucking. Would have liked Pittonet as sub not only for insurance but can match Nankervis physically