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Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #30
This is a physical game but I think our match had more pressure.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #31
Cameron was a metre off the mark but the ump wouldn't call play on so the Collingwood defender was anchored to his spot. Joke of a rule.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #32
Geelong with their best 2 defenders down (and no longer Selwood in the middle) have got to be cherry ripe for Charlie and Harry to dominate. As long as we can clear the ball out of the middle and give them half a chance up forward.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #33
We will win

Hope you're right, I'll be there. I agree with you and don't know why!

Based on just that first hit-out, the Dagpies have got me flummoxed. They're never out of any game. Their game style is simple and they seem to be always dangerous, no matter the score line.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #34
Hope you're right, I'll be there. I agree with you and don't know why!

Based on just that first hit-out, the Dagpies have got me flummoxed. They're never out of any game. Their game style is simple and they seem to be always dangerous, no matter the score line.
I dont know why either but I think what I saw Thurs was a group (players and coaches) who won't give up and stay in the fight until the end irrespective of the opposition. I also think we will no longer get a massive run of unanswered goals (like Geel did last night) scored against us. I hope I'm right, its the next phase of our development/journey.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

 

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #35
For me some changes or tweaks are needed this week.

In Pittonet C Durdin Dow
Out Martin Owies L O'Brien

I'm assuming Moo was not injured as per the AFL stats sheet and will play who along with Dutchy held their own and stay in the side.

Martin and Owies just didn't (and dont) do enough so outski. Durds takes Owies spot. LOB did nothing wrong but he makes wake for Dow as the sub this week (reward for a good 2's performance).
We play two rucks with one resting in the fwd line to stretch the defence. With Tommy D in the fwd line, we have 3 big mobile and athletic fwds who must surely stretch defences.
PS There is Kemp to consider as well.
SOS can do SOS things and be a swingman (fwd and back not ruck) if needed.
I can see myself losing patience with Acres very quickly, he had several howlers on Thurs so first game and I'll give him a break but I expected an experienced player like that to come in firing on all cylinders not cough and splutter.
Blues by a couple in a ferocious contest with a Geel side who will be snarling.
PS there is Kemp to consider as well.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #36
A game of good defence was our game
A game of crap defence was last night game.


Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #37
For me some changes or tweaks are needed this week.

In Pittonet C Durdin Dow
Out Martin Owies L O'Brien

I'm assuming Moo was not injured as per the AFL stats sheet and will play who along with Dutchy held their own and stay in the side.

Martin and Owies just didn't (and dont) do enough so outski. Durds takes Owies spot. LOB did nothing wrong but he makes wake for Dow as the sub this week (reward for a good 2's performance).
We play two rucks with one resting in the fwd line to stretch the defence. With Tommy D in the fwd line, we have 3 big mobile and athletic fwds who must surely stretch defences.
PS There is Kemp to consider as well.
SOS can do SOS things and be a swingman (fwd and back not ruck) if needed.
I can see myself losing patience with Acres very quickly, he had several howlers on Thurs so first game and I'll give him a break but I expected an experienced player like that to come in firing on all cylinders not cough and splutter.
Blues by a couple in a ferocious contest with a Geel side who will be snarling.
PS there is Kemp to consider as well.

I take it that you'd like Kemp to be considered G2C  ;D

I can't really see him displacing any of our defenders from Round 1 but I think that he'd make an ideal sub.

Dow has to be a chance after his VFL performance but who would he replace?  Martin and Fisher were ordinary but our forwards didn't get many opportunities with Richmond locking the ball in their front half.  Rather than dropping a forward, perhaps we need to add some grunt to our link up players.

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Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #38
swing the axe no more second chances ,fischer ,owens,martin out and can we try Dow as a half fwd tagging opposition quickest running defender (thought)

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #39
If Dow had a good game then bring him in for Owies. Not a fan of Owies never have been and I think he's had plenty of opportunities. If not Dow then Carroll or Durdin will do. In fact bring both of them in and get rid of Martin who has been a major disappointment. Fisher isn't doing too much but his football brain gets him another crack. Maybe he needs a quick run on the ball to get him involved. Talking about football brains, O'Brien, who hasn't got one, stays as the sub.
I was ready to give Ed C the Tijuana as well but his last quarter was pretty good so maybe the run helped him? I'd give him a tagging job on Guthrie. their best player IMO.
Don't think we need Pitto in for the pussies as I don't rate their rucks and they pretty much suit TDK.
If the baby blues are fit they get another run but should be rested thereafter.
We're a real chance against the cats without Stewart maybe SDK and an underdone Hawkins. Having said that they'll probably smash us, as is normally the case.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #40
They wont drop Cripps mate Fisher and Martin will get another chance.....comparing last nights game to ours the leg speed difference was major. Both Richmond and us are very slow in comparison and while our game was messy and scrum like I think we need to add more leg speed so we can compete with Geelong on the outside.
re: Acres....first game, new club, new game plan, need to be patient and show some faith......going to be tested this game with Smith, Holmes and Touhy who are all dangerous goalkickers.
Id be adding Durdin if fit along with Dow and Pittonet....Id be giving Dow a job to close down a player like Holmes who has express pace and is a bit under rated in terms of what he does for Geelong imo.
Id keep Hollands and Cowan in the team but be selective who we play them on.....Weitering on Hawkins which means Young will probably have to take Cameron, and Saad on Stengle.
I'm hoping Charlie gets Ratugolea because I think he can dine out this game and kick a bag. The Geelong player takes a good mark and is a strong unit but his brain isnt wired to be a defender imo and he made some poor errors vs Collingwood that cost goals.
Blues to hang on by 7 points with Geelong coming home like a train but this time we close the game out just....
Charlie 6 goals and Harry 4........Hawkins gets spanked by Weitering who is BOG, Doc 30 possessions....

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #41
Got spanked in the clearances mainly because Nankervis and Taranto laid almost 20 tackles between them.

Richmond was tough a game - have to be completely brutal in the clearances and lift our tackling game.

I have zero faith in our ground ball players forward of centre despite the odd good game here and there.

This part of the grounds needs an overhaul.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #42
I take it that you'd like Kemp to be considered G2C  ;D
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2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #43
I take it that you'd like Kemp to be considered G2C  ;D

I can't really see him displacing any of our defenders from Round 1 but I think that he'd make an ideal sub.

Dow has to be a chance after his VFL performance but who would he replace?  Martin and Fisher were ordinary but our forwards didn't get many opportunities with Richmond locking the ball in their front half.  Rather than dropping a forward, perhaps we need to add some grunt to our link up players.


Of Martin, Owies and FIsher (all very poor Thu night), I'd retain Fisher for his ability to go into the center square at times, no other reason. Dow should be rewarded, Kemp has size, speed and strength to play anywhere on the ground.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #44
A game of good defence was our game
A game of crap defence was last night game.


Last night, the delivery into the forward lines was supreme.  Carlton and especially Richmond squandered lots of chances with crap ball use.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?