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Agree mad...it's a bit like the old "shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic" at the moment. All and sundry getting a game in the midfield when really only Cripps and Walsh are the ones doing the heavy lifting. If we were only playing blokes who deserved a game, we'd have about 12 or 13 running out on the weekend. I'm not sold on Lang but if he's doing okay in the twos then he probably deserves a chance at showing if he's worth keeping.

My whole point LP.....dropping one bloke who's not doing much and bringing in another bloke who's not doing much? Our midfield options are so limited at the moment that we're just having to play guys and hope they improve. Our depth has been crap for so long.

Not Setterfield. He did diddly in the 2s from all reports.

I'd give Lang a run....

Yep LP don't get to see any of it here so I can only really go on the comments on here. So what does that say about the overall coaching and game plan if, as you say, blokes are played into and then out of form? I'd be devastated if we were tanking again given how many wooden spoons and near bottom finishes we've had in recent years. All those high draft picks and we're still sitting on the bottom? How many more years of this is there to come?

I see Kennedy in the VFL for weeks on end while our midfield is struggling and he comes in last week and for the most part he's ordinary. I see Dow and O'Brien struggling week after week but still getting a game. If we drop them, who's knocking the door down in the VLF? Setterfield was brought into the club to be that bigger midfielder type and while he's had two injury interrupted years at GWS, he's now back in the VFL. We brought in Fasolo to add depth and from what I read, he's not doing much in the VFL either.

We had the Mullet/O'Shea/Shaw experiment to add depth and older players to help and they were all an abject failure. This year has got that same feel about it it IMHO. Someone else posted the other day that they need another couple of pre-seasons? Curnow, McKay, Cunningham and Weitering are into their 4th seasons...SPS and Fisher their 3rd. A couple more preseasons and it'll be their 6th and 5th respectively....are we going to have to wait that long?

From that list that Shawny posted, there's probably 8-10 blokes you could easily cull at the end of this year but we've been doing that repeatedly over the last 3-4 years. That makes it near impossible to trade blokes in when you don't have an awful lot to offer up the other way.

I actually think Fraser is OK, if not better than OK, but to me it appears our AFL part is also the wrecking ball for all things Northern Blues!

Actually, if I recall correctly Kennedy was looked OK after returning from injury, but then got re-injured in the VFL and we promoted him to the AFL carrying an injury or recovering from another injury off the back of no game.

In respect to Weitering he looks fine, but he's had less interruptions than Charlie and far less than McKay. SPS has looked good in patches and I suspect Fisher is carrying an injury because he's looked the goods in the past as well. Personally, I think this idea of having them play through adversity is bogus, it's more likely they will become Pavlov's Dog than a Performance Athlete!

Fisher has been tagged in several games this year and obviously clubs rate him as our second best mid IMO but he has found the going tough with the extra attention and bigger bodies manning him up.

So why isn't Crippa blocking for his little mate? Cripps should be dropped.

So why isn't Crippa blocking for his little mate? Cripps should be dropped.

The problem is Walsh having a free running opponent, it means they got someone extra to sit on or roll off players like Fisher and SPS.

We are all super excited about Walsh, opponents don't give much of a stuff about him yet!

Fish and Samo need to extract the digit, push through the tags and lift. They have been passengers for a large chunk of the year.