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Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #180 –
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I was just listening to a security expert / political strategist who was adamant Russia is behind this latest breakout of fighting in Israel. The hypothesis seems to be rather than take the expensive options to scale up fighting on that front, they have chosen to weaken Ukraine by acting to distract / divide Allied support by given the Allies another war to fight.

He suspects there could be further outbreaks of regional fighting to come, and he warned of terrorist attacks on domestic soil, or potentially false flag operations, financed / enabled by Russia to weaken and distract support for Ukraine. Ukraine won't get resources from Allies if the Allies are given issues to deal with closer to home.

Ive heard its Iran behind it.

The world is staring into the abyss right now. 

The strategy seems to be make the USA fight in as many theatres as possible.

Attributing this to one player is fraught with danger.  You have China and Taiwan, Iran and its interests, Ukraine and Russia, and the ascendency of the BRICS. 

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Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #181 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
Ive heard its Iran behind it.
Yes, the assertion was Russia was doing this indirectly to keep plausible deniability, Iran was the proxy.

Interesting, I thought China might be behind this as well to distract from it's other activities, but apparently the Israel outbreak is not in China's interest due to the way it's finance and investment in foreign entities works, China would be shooting itself in the financial foot because it's just behind the USA in that region in terms of dollars invested!

Personally, I'm not sure any of us can know, at the foot soldier level it's all about life, society, religion and politics. But for Presidents, Generals and Oligarchs it's all about the dollar$, dollar$ and dollar$!
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Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #182 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
Ive heard its Iran behind it.

The world is staring into the abyss right now. 

The strategy seems to be make the USA fight in as many theatres as possible.

It's called World War 3.
It's already started.
It's bascially the 'phony phase' before the serious combatants get involved with direct conflict.
It can be a short one.
And it may not involve nuclear confrontation.
But the world will never be the same.

Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #183 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
Attributing this to one player is fraught with danger.  You have China and Taiwan, Iran and its interests, Ukraine and Russia, and the ascendency of the BRICS.
Agreed, but I'm not sure anybody takes Brazil seriously, Brazil in that list would be like referring to Fiji as a members of AUKUS!
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Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #184 –
Whilst i don't know if Russia has any involvement, the head of RT was gloating about the wealthy Russians who had moved to Israel and asking "if they feel safe now, are they still dancing now" etc.. Which was pretty loathsome.

It does for sure seem a global battle has begun and the outcome of it is unknown. Russia and China are 2 countries who still absolutely have expansionist/colonialist intentions. Russia's influence has been growing on the African continent for a long time already and shows no signs of slowing. As disgusting and inhumane as it is, it is "smart" when you don't care about civilians and give a lot of weapons and boots on the ground military support to dictators who can give you untold wealth through natural resources. The biggest problem Russia (and China) potentially face is if they end up empowering fanatical Muslim terrorists to such an extreme they become the dominant expansion power base.
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Re: Russian Ukraine War

Reply #185 –
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As disgusting and inhumane as it is, it is "smart" when you don't care about civilians and give a lot of weapons and boots on the ground military support to dictators who can give you untold wealth through natural resources. 
Currencie$ contain zero humanity!
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