Carlton Supporters Club

It's hard to judge politicians on a single agenda.

When we elect officials we elect them to perform as general purpose administrators. In recent years there have been some disastrous elections across local, state and federal politics, because social media tends to drive interest in myopic agendas. My own region is suffering badly with over half the local representation either elected on a single agenda platform, without disclosure of a myopic agenda or without disclosure of a political allegiance.

If there was a election tomorrow and Jacinta Nampijinpa Price was running for PM, I'd vote for her in a heat beat. I'd not  heard much about her prior to the Voice debate, what a breath of fresh air, the future of Australian politics I reckon. Thoughts?

Impressive though she has been, she has as much chance of being the leader of the Coalition as I have of lining up at full-forward in the first game next year.  She has served her purpose, and the Libs will ensure that normal service is resumed as soon as possible.

Well they need to read the room then.

The room has just told them that when it comes to Indigenous affairs, much of the country is either against it or doesn't want to know.  All the more reason why the thought of a female indigenous leader in charge of the Liberal party would be electoral suicide. 

The room has just told them that when it comes to Indigenous affairs, much of the country is either against it or doesn't want to know.  All the more reason why the thought of a female indigenous leader in charge of the Liberal party would be electoral suicide. 

You can certainly quibble about whether such a referendum was necessary at this point, but once the decision was made, the opportunity should've been taken. We seem to lack the confidence, ethics and maturity to deal with adult issues in an adult way, so the end result is that we are once again hostage to inertia, ostrich behaviour, political opportunism and all the rest.

Why so you say that?  Because no won?  This doesn't make the country against indigenous affairs or for it.  It makes the nation unconvinced that the yes no referendum would make any difference and would simply lead to another mouth feeding at the trough of politics. 

Another one who seems to think that the outcome of a poorly articulated and scoped referendum not getting up says more about the public than those in parliament proposing this rubbish.

What were we actually voting for?  The answer is nothing. It's wel known that the indigenous people don't have one united voice.  They have multiple languages, tribes, and people.  One voice was never going to be sufficient but i heard from the minister of Indigenous affairs last week, and instantly thought to myself should this seat not be our indigenous voice to parliament?

What about the democratic process means the indigenous people have no voice?

What is stopping the indigenous people from forming a party for this reason and running for election?

We are currently in the midst of one of the poorest economic situations the country has seen during my lifetime, and we have just thrown 100s of millions away on a referendum that has no scope.

That is political suicide.

There was plenty of material out there if you care to look, that gives careful and considered explanations on all matters relating to the Voice. I certainly don't blame the politicians. That's a total cop out in my view.

The Voice was intended to be the first step in a multi step process that addressees issues relating to First Nations people. I cannot think of one single good reason to vote no. I can think of several bad ones with very little effort.

The majority of Australians disagree Paul.

I based most of my decision making listening to last week's televised show where Lydia Thorpe and Jacinta Nampijinpa Price were chatting with Ray Martin about indigenous affairs, and the referendum including all the bells and whistles.

I have to say, that they made a lot more compelling points on reasons to vote no, and the yes vote had no substance to add to the debate.