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Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #75 –
I can’t believe Cerra is 23, seems so much older to me.

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #76 –
I heard the interview with Voss. Made some comments that can’t be argued. Especially the fact that Brisbane have been in finals for a few years and working towards a flag opportunity. These opportunities take time. I hope as supporters we don’t assume a potential flag next season. If might take time to get to the ultimate opportunity. GWS is a good example. They had a chance on the big stage and lost. This season they fell short in a preliminary final by 1 point. Sydney had an ultimate opportunity and failed. Then to be eliminated in the first final. Melbourne going out in straight sets 2 years in a row. It takes minimal injuries and everything falling in place at the right moment. For now any players with potential surgeries should do what needs to be done. Take a break, and then plan how to change and improve before next season. While the club looks at better development of the youth and what needs to come to the club with other players.
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Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #77 –
Quote from: laj on
16pts was a sign of a good fight.
Spot on! They were made to earn their score, we defended with heart, spirit and determination. That cannot be faulted at all. Cameron's shanks made it look better than what it should have been on the scoreboard, but we had some near misses as well, which could have made the game much closer or even a most impossible win! But really, the better team won. They were far too good for three quarters around the middle of the ground and with their ball use on the outside, the 'Gabba is a very large ground, they haven't lose there all year and deserve their spot in the GF. They've been knocking on the door for a few years and it is clearly their time now, ours will come. You've generally got to have the experience of finals before you win one. In closing, speaking of large grounds, so is the MCG, why they struggle there so much, I don't know...

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #78 –
Quote from: Mantis on
So if we had to play GWS in or the Saints it would have ended any different. We lost against GWS if I remember. It wasn’t about the run in. Eventually you lose to a better squad. Pick 6 players from the Brisbane squad you would swap for our squad. If the result is Nill, then we lost by being too tired or just by bad luck. We did well to get the result we finished with.
We also beat GWS as well and lost to them as they had more to play for than us at the time.

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Reply #79 –
Speaking of Cameron,  I think Saad must have been getting to him. He was very prickly and had a couple of goes at at him, quite heatedly.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #80 –
Quote from: Sub-Zero on
They were far too good for three quarters around the middle of the ground and with their ball use on the outside, the 'Gabba is a very large ground …

20m shorter than the G and 20m narrower.
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Reply #81 –
i have said it all year until we change our game plan /style we will not go far,our fullbacks kick in how many fu....k n games long to the wing only to see opposition run it back and the long bombs to fwd 50 /line and you watch opposition run it out with quick ball movement ,over to the coaches and preseason

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Reply #82 –
Quote from: IvanAwfulbigone on
20m shorter than the G and 20m narrower.

I've tried looking on the internet, and I find conflicting dimensions given for both the MCG and the Gabba.,
 

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #84 –
To have a realistic chance at being in the top 2 next year changes have to be made to the forward line personnel, beginning with the forwards coach.  As has already been mentioned, how were Motlop and Martin allowed to compete for marks with Charlie  resulting in their opponents clearing the ball out of our forward line with no opposition?

I see Owies, Durdin and Fogarty as being hard at the ball but too easily covered and not having the skills to impact a game.

I am most disappointed with Cuningham.  He has shown he has the skills to carve up a defence but once again has gone missing after a few cameo performances.



Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #85 –
Quote from: Macca37 on
To have a realistic chance at being in the top 2 next year changes have to be made to the forward line personnel, beginning with the forwards coach.  As has already been mentioned, how were Motlop and Martin allowed to compete for marks with Charlie  resulting in their opponents clearing the ball out of our forward line with no opposition?

I see Owies, Durdin and Fogarty as being hard at the ball but too easily covered and not having the skills to impact a game.
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It's hard to know if the issue is time / evolution or whether change is actually required. I suspect the former. We have two Coleman medallists, a 3rd tall which could most likely be either Silvagni, Kennedy, or Jack Martin, and then a bunch of smalls (Durdin, Owies, Fogarty, Motlop) who are either young or low draft picks or rookies. The smalls have all shown glimpses, and need to be persisted with IMO. Ash Hansen is highly regarded in footy circles, if we believe what is written.

We sit 5th on % in 2023, 9th in points for, 4th in points against. Interestingly the Crows are 1st in points for. Voss has achieved one of his prime objectives which is that we are are hard to play against. Not sure where to from here.

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #86 –
Quote from: PaulP on
We sit 5th on % in 2023, 9th in points for, 4th in points against. Interestingly the Crows are 1st in points for. Voss has achieved one of his prime objectives which is that we are are hard to play against. Not sure where to from here.
Williams will be back, that is more run, and more options. Cunningham surely won't do himself a stupid pre-season injury again. Owies will be better for missing out this week. Hopefully Motlop will be fitter after another pre-season, if you not going to be quick you must be able to endure.

Hollands will be better, stronger harder to shake and harder to tackle.

McKay and Charlie need consistent games together.

Hopefully we won't have Doc, Cripps and Acres carrying injuries into games, and Pitto and TDK get a pre-season together.
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Reply #87 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
He kicked 24 goals from 20 games this year. At the same age in 2006 Betts kicked 20 goals from 21 games.

Eddie's break out year was 2009 when he kicked 38 goals.
I think Motlop has a bit more upside/variety to his game than just being a specialist forward pocket , Id equate him more to a promising Jack Martin type than say a specialist small goalkicker like Eddie was. Motlop could be run through the middle and is capable of getting 20 possies a game imo and I wouldnt be consigning him to be a stay at home small crumbing forward which I think is what Cookie is asking for. 24 goals is a very good effort given how we started the season and while I dont expect him to reach Eddies numbers in goals kicked I think he can be a more versatile player like I said and thats how I would be judging him rather than goals kicked.

Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications

Reply #88 –
Motlop is a young star.
Very intelligent teenager and our classiest small forward by far. Needs some help there Owies not the answer.... Cunners not sure - has the class but goes missing too much.

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Reply #89 –
Corey Durdin is the one we missed the most.  Genuine pace, kicks goals, applies forward pressure.  Very much missed, and was one of our best against Sydney last year which was one of our best wins for the year.

Struggled this year for whatever reason.
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