Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: Dirty Harry on March 20, 2014, 05:02:33 pm

So I'm asking.... Please.... Just give me something positive that I can hold onto.

Most of the people on this site no nothing about football? 

Quote from: kruddler on March 20, 2014, 06:08:33 pm

Quote from: Dirty Harry on March 20, 2014, 05:02:33 pm

So I'm asking.... Please.... Just give me something positive that I can hold onto.

Most of the people on this site no nothing about football? 

Would be more credible if you spelled 'know' correctly.

We lost rd 1 last year and played a lot worse and we beat the same side in September.

Does anyone think that maybe the pre season the boys had this year has them a bit flat for the start of the year.  Brock said it was clearly the hardest pre season he has ever done both mentally and physically. He said he went mentally to places he'd never been before.
We got Buttifant from Collingwood.. It would be interesting to see how the Collingwood  players pulled up after their first Arizona trip under Buttifant.

Just as a side note, I remember Shane Crawford saying that the walk from Adelaide to Melbourne, and the ride from Melbourne to Perth he did, took him months to recover from as it was very mentally and physically draining. Now I know He was not in AFL shape, but he was generally a fit guy..  Maybe this pre season is having a bit of a lagging effect on our team seeing that a lot of surgeries were had and it was a very draining pre season. I have confidence it will benefit us as the season goes on.

Quote from: madbluboy on March 20, 2014, 06:17:50 pm

We lost rd 1 last year and played a lot worse and we beat the same side in September.

so they have improved and we're the same
or have we gone backwards just a little more than them?

Quote from: thrunthrublu on March 20, 2014, 06:29:11 pm

Quote from: madbluboy on March 20, 2014, 06:17:50 pm

We lost rd 1 last year and played a lot worse and we beat the same side in September.

so they have improved and we're the same
or have we gone backwards just a little more than them?

Are you talking about Richmond?

All the excuses in the world can't mask the fact that we gave it up....again.

I admire your stance Jamie, good on you. Unfortunately I'm still coming to terms with our premiership window being slammed firmly shut.

All the excuses in the world can't mask the fact that we gave it up....again.

I admire your stance Jamie, good on you. Unfortunately I'm still coming to terms with our premiership window being slammed firmly shut.

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on March 20, 2014, 06:41:39 pm

All the excuses in the world can't mask the fact that we gave it up....again.

I admire your stance Jamie, good on you. Unfortunately I'm still coming to terms with our premiership window being slammed firmly shut.

Look back to Port 2 years ago when Primus was in charge... They were forked. They had to put advertising over seats as no one was turning up, their list was seen as crapehouse, and they were in debt up to their eyeballs. Im sure many said their premiership window had been slammed shut for the next 10-15 years.
Now look at them.
Things can turn very quick mate. We all know that about footy. We dont know who might come on this year and take the next step.. 
There's a lot to like about Cripps, Buckley, Graham, Menzel etc..
Players like Ellard I think will take the next step providing he can stay on the park. Curnow has come on in leaps and bounds, and Brock has improved in the last 2 years. IMO Murphy has his best in front of him and Daisy is capable of hitting his best form again. If Gibbs goes then we get another one to replace him.. If he stays then he also has his best in front of him.
I think losing Scotto, Carrots and Judd in the next few years wont be that drastic. It will free up money and it also cuts the average age of our list dramatically whilst giving others a chance to perform in those roles..
We know Hendo is A grade, and Jamo is a decent back when on the field. Its the forward line we have to get right. Whether it be Hendo to go forward (then we need to get a key back ie Frawley), or we poach one of the GWS star forwards..  I then believe we are in contention again.

I never thought a premiership was coming in 2014, but I certainly dont agree our window has shut long term.  I dont think we are that far away. But the thing is making top four, making top eight, or being out of the 8 can boil down to 1-3 wins.  Luck is involved with injuries etc, but I just dont think we are miles away like you suggest.
Mick will cull again at years end and mould the team he wants. Atleast we know the people left are ones who want to play for him. That was a massive part of Collingwoods success. They all bought into him and all played for him.  We haven't had a coach like that since Parkin/Brittain.  I just think he needs to be given his chance.