Now that the season is dead, you set standards. You a kid wanting to play AFL footy? You need to bang the door down like this VFL hack who isnt good enough. Why is he so much better at the level than you if he's rubbish?
AFL players? You want to play AFL footy or continue at the club? Dont go to the VFL and give us what Blake Acres did today. He should have been one of the best on. Instead he was just going. The workrate was there, the ability to hit targets not. Thats a negative for an important senior player.
Set the standards now. Playing the kids at AFL level before they have time, or gifting us games through a rebuild is precisely why we are rubbish. Brisbane's Deven Robertson has been squeezed out of their senior team. He has that many players ahead of him, you could forgive him for going at half rat power. They were 6 goals up with 10 minutes to play, and he ended up with a bloody nose because of his commitment to the contest, and statistically was 2nd best Lion on the day, out of 18 senior listed players. He isnt guaranteed a game next week, and it shows. Our boys by contrast, dont want it enough. Set THAT standard. Its way more important than gifting any young kid a game.
Look, i get it.
Set the standard, reward VFL form etc. Thats fine. That CAN lead to improvement on field. Its what we've done in the last few weeks though and how has that worked out? If we only picked blokes who were setting standards, we'd have about half a teams worth of players running out each week.
So...that ain't working. Remembering we rewarded Evans 2 weeks ago, then found him wanting and shafted him back to the 2's, now we want to promote him again? Its not helping us, him or anyone.
We have to make some very tough calls this off-season. We've got 6-7 weeks to gather a wealth of information that we normally wouldn't be able to do if we were still in finals contention. Don't blow it.
Lemmey is possibly more likely to be delisted then re-signed for next year. Are we 100% certain thats the right thing to do? Play him in the 1's and find out. White? Young? Play them. Evans and Fantasia....we know what we will get....what do we gain by playing them??
Billy Wilson....Jaxon Binns.....at this stage, i'd delist them both. Play them and see if they can surprise you. Give Charleson a crack while you can.
These blokes will give you more effort in the 1's than most of the team so far. We are not playing to win. So what are we playing for??
Not a few weeks. This needs to be our modus operandi from now on.
Set the standard, make the standard. The names eventually will be good players banging on the door wanting to play footy instead of rocking up, expecting to play, playing ok here and there asking for a million dollar pay day and not caring.
I missed it from where I was sitting. Its a shame, because we are crying out for a player to stand up and fly the flag. We sighted for football acts, not anything resembling physicality.
Edit. If its a collision with an umpire he'll get a fine at worst. He was facing the other way and backed into him.
Cowan on the other hand the umpire should be fined for crimes against footy.
Oh and time on ground percetange 81% motlop, and Fantasia 51%.
Fantasia's issues are reliability.
Not capability. Reliability limits his capability.
Both of them are luxuries a side like ours cannot afford.
TDK played most of his game forward, and Pittonet mostly in the ruck. Thats another stinky comparison.
I was picking generic data. Not favouring one or the other.
I included complete ruck stats to show relative numbers there. That is... Pitto wins 1/2 the hitouts of contests he is in. TDK 1/3 Pitto gets 1/5 hitouts to advantage from ruck contests he attends. TDK is 1 in 7.
TDK played most of his game forward...cool....Pitto outscored him, took more contested marks, had as many score involvements. But TDK looks pretty running around the ground and can jump higher. None of this translates to actual output on game day.
You didn't want to include TOG for those 2 though? Does it hurt your defence? Pitto TOG - 74% TDK TOG - 85%
As for Fantasia vs Motlop......i chose that comparison before even looking at the stats and was surprised how much better Motlop did.
Im not the one making an argument here. TDK was playing as a forward (poorly at that) and my standout moment of the game for him, was us conceding whilst he was checking on a teamate that fell over, and the opposition waltzed away with the footy. Look after your mate later thanks.
I have no complaints with Pittonet, and have defended him from the time he signed a 4 year deal.
Re: Motlop, he gets a free pass because we are bereft of young talent, but he is not anywhere near elite for a small forward. I cant remember the last time he scored a goal and did well, and we are about to move him around the ground to try and find other ways to impact the game.
Now that the season is dead, you set standards. You a kid wanting to play AFL footy? You need to bang the door down like this VFL hack who isnt good enough. Why is he so much better at the level than you if he's rubbish?
AFL players? You want to play AFL footy or continue at the club? Dont go to the VFL and give us what Blake Acres did today. He should have been one of the best on. Instead he was just going. The workrate was there, the ability to hit targets not. Thats a negative for an important senior player.
Set the standards now. Playing the kids at AFL level before they have time, or gifting us games through a rebuild is precisely why we are rubbish. Brisbane's Deven Robertson has been squeezed out of their senior team. He has that many players ahead of him, you could forgive him for going at half rat power. They were 6 goals up with 10 minutes to play, and he ended up with a bloody nose because of his commitment to the contest, and statistically was 2nd best Lion on the day, out of 18 senior listed players. He isnt guaranteed a game next week, and it shows. Our boys by contrast, dont want it enough. Set THAT standard. Its way more important than gifting any young kid a game.
Whoever said about Evans getting a game, and spweing up, I would have my bucket ready for next week.
It wasn't me, but i share the sentiment.
Evans is not the future. Let him dominate at VFL level, but playing him at AFL shows gives us nothing both now and in the future. Play a kid in his place.
For a side like ours, that is supposedly not trying, we cannot ignore the sort of game he played in the VFL.
You want to set standards at the club? Drop the talent, and reward the guys who are working.
Evans was second best of the blues on ground statistically (beaten by Ethan Phillips). 3 goals, 18 disposals, 8 marks, 8 tackles. Thats putting your hand up.
Billy Wilson was next. 1 goal. 23 disposals. 8 marks 3 tackles. Jordan Boyd not far behind Billy. Will white also had a dip.
We weren't very good.
I dont want to see Evans on our list next season, but if we are going to achieve anything for the rest of this year, you have to reward the solid VFL form when a player puts his hand up, particularly with the ones going as badly as they have been.
Whoever said about Evans getting a game, and spweing up, I would have my bucket ready for next week.
He is once again putting his hand up and making a stake for AFL footy. I dont like the guy, he isnt good enough, but you cannot accuse him of not trying.
Billy Wilson should also come in next week.
Dissapointed in Acres. He has been busy but hasnt looked a class above this level.
Lucas Campo may have done enough. Binns hasnt been terrible, and we will need wingers next week but we have a 9 day break to next saturday.
Id be moving Hollands back onto a wing, and bringing in Wilson and Charleson in based on what I have seen. We need to see what Charleson can do at AFL level, and Id like Carroll to be better defensively. Boyd is another one who could come in. Depends on the MC. Watch Acres come back in. Ed Langdon runs all day and will need someone like Hollands to go with him.
Lemmey moves like the titanic. Big turning circle, not much pace. Showed some endeavour to get back and attempt a tackle just then, but he is very one dimensional.
For a team that lacks run off half back, and is insistent on using Ollie Hollands in that role, Im not sure why we have so many half backs and then insist on using Hollands down there when we are cheating with mids on the wing.
The people who Bronx cheered Tom are a special kind of stupid.
The fans sitting around me started bagging the team 10 mins into the first quarter.
We have terrible supporters in amongst the good ones. You hear the same old crap from the stands. "man up, go faster, go harder", too much handball, kick it, we need more run with forward handball.
Its easy to see all the options from 150 metres away, but on deck when they look up the ground, they cant see everything in 2 seconds, and are not looking downfield when concentrating on getting the ball out.
Also, its easy to be critical from the stands, most of the people around me look like theyve never played the game. I havent so I say not much, I usually just boo, and cheer, but yesterday I was feeling like entertaining myself so when Hipwood got the yips early went with, you've only kicked one, you've only kicked one! we are rubbish, and you have only kicked one. Got a few chuckles.
Ive not seen a team start a season in such poor physical condition and not build as the season wore on.
Ive also not seen a team do what we have done this season, where the form lines early were pretty poor aside from a handful of players, and rather have the rest build form, we have had more drop out of form as the season has gone on.
Its like the harder they try, the more they stuff it.
Finally, we have not been the same since they tightened the holding the ball interpretation which has resulted in the ultra fast ball movement we are seeing now. Its opened the game up, but I cant fathom how a guy having one armed held whilst taking posession gets pinged for not being able to get it loose.
We could have had a 3 goal turn around via Motlop finishing the work properly. That set shot showed a player lacking confidence. He missed. The end to end play resulted in Matt Carroll getting pinged. He repeated that same mistake a minute later.
Im not a matt carroll fan, and im not signing him up was the right reign to pull. He doesnt defend well, and whilst he uses it well, I fail to see what he offers us that Jordan Boyd doesnt.
