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Pick your best 22 players (22 votes allowed!)

1 - Walker
[ 22 ] (4.4%)
2 - Menzel
[ 18 ] (3.6%)
3 - Murphy
[ 23 ] (4.6%)
4 - Gibbs
[ 23 ] (4.6%)
5 - Judd
[ 5 ] (1%)
6 - Simpson
[ 22 ] (4.4%)
7 - Buckley
[ 23 ] (4.6%)
8 - Kreuzer
[ 23 ] (4.6%)
9 - Cripps
[ 23 ] (4.6%)
10 - Watson
[ 0 ] (0%)
11 - Warnock
[ 0 ] (0%)
12 - Boekhorst
[ 16 ] (3.2%)
13 - Yarran
[ 6 ] (1.2%)
14 - Jones
[ 0 ] (0%)
15 - Docherty
[ 22 ] (4.4%)
16 - Viojo-Rainbow
[ 0 ] (0%)
17 - Rowe
[ 15 ] (3%)
18 - Jaksch
[ 15 ] (3%)
19 - Giles
[ 0 ] (0%)
20 - Holman
[ 7 ] (1.4%)
21 - Sheehan
[ 4 ] (0.8%)
22 - Tutt
[ 1 ] (0.2%)
23 - Henderson
[ 3 ] (0.6%)
24 - Whiley
[ 3 ] (0.6%)
25 - Smith
[ 0 ] (0%)
26 - Foster
[ 0 ] (0%)
27 - Armfield
[ 19 ] (3.8%)
28 - Bell
[ 16 ] (3.2%)
29 - Gowers
[ 0 ] (0%)
30 - Johnson
[ 0 ] (0%)
31 - Dick
[ 1 ] (0.2%)
32 - Graham
[ 20 ] (4%)
33 - Everitt
[ 22 ] (4.4%)
34 - Walsh
[ 1 ] (0.2%)
35 - Curnow
[ 23 ] (4.6%)
36 - Wood
[ 12 ] (2.4%)
37 - Fields
[ 0 ] (0%)
38 - Byrne
[ 7 ] (1.4%)
39 - Thomas
[ 19 ] (3.8%)
40 - Jamison
[ 22 ] (4.4%)
41 - Casboult
[ 23 ] (4.6%)
42 - Tuohy
[ 23 ] (4.6%)
43 - White
[ 14 ] (2.8%)
44 - Carrazzo
[ 6 ] (1.2%)
46 - Ellard
[ 0 ] (0%)
47 - Russell
[ 0 ] (0%)

Total Members Voted: 22

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Re: Pick your best 22 players

Reply #120 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Quote from: cookie2 on
@DJC

Not sure how long his contract has to go but 2015 will be Bell's make or break year for sure. He needs to be very convincing.
The other thing will Bell for me is he has no speed or endurance. He seems to tire easily and he becomes sloppy (which is to be expected) and he doesn't move across the ground gracefully. He is a real plodder. Now thats ok when you have elite disposal but...

Bell came 2nd in the recent 2km time trial, just saying.
Mens sana in corpore sano - A healthy mind in a healthy body.

Navy, it's not just a color, it's an attitude !!!

Re: Pick your best 22 players

Reply #121 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Quote from: cookie2 on
@DJC

Not sure how long his contract has to go but 2015 will be Bell's make or break year for sure. He needs to be very convincing.
The other thing will Bell for me is he has no speed or endurance. He seems to tire easily and he becomes sloppy (which is to be expected) and he doesn't move across the ground gracefully. He is a real plodder. Now thats ok when you have elite disposal but...

Don't know where that came from. He's known for his tank. Didn't he run a 16 odd beep test at one point? (as well as coming 2nd in the 2km recently). His awareness is his main problem and his ball skills aren't great either. I do think his days are numbered, though.
 

Re: Pick your best 22 players

Reply #122 –
Bell has endurance, what he doesn't have is awareness. I'm not sure you can teach that can you?
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

Re: Pick your best 22 players

Reply #123 –
Didn't he sign a long term contract recently?
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Pick your best 22 players

Reply #124 –
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on
Bell has endurance, what he doesn't have is awareness. I'm not sure you can teach that can you?

Nope....and thats why i was a very big wrap for Gibbs...despite him taking his time to fulfill his potential. He's always had the ability to find time when there was none. Always aware of where he is and who is around him. Rarely hurried.

Another player who used to have that in spades was Hoops. He was chastised a lot for looking like he wasn't trying and didn't have that desperation, but thats just how he was.

Personally if i was drafting, i'd be more inclined to draft players with awareness rather than bash and crash ability as that trait is somewhat unique and you either have it or you don't. You do need both in your side, but there are more 'battlers' to choose from out there so easier to draft.

Re: Pick your best 22 players

Reply #126 –
Quote from: kruddler on
Quote from: Professer E on
Didn't he sign a long term contract recently?

For all contract questions and answers, check this thread which i continue to update.

http://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=6.0

In this case, Bell is signed up for 2 more years.

Hey Kruds, when you update that info for new contracts, could you add the year they signed the new contract as we often get questions about whether a player had signed for 2/3/4/etc years half way through their contracts.

Eg

Contracted until the end of…
1 Andrew Walker 2017 (2014)

Or


Contracted until the end of…
1 Andrew Walker 2017 (3 years)

Or similar.

Re: Pick your best 22 players

Reply #127 –
Quote from: ItsOurTime on
Contracted until the end of…
1 Andrew Walker 2017 (2014)

Or


Contracted until the end of…
1 Andrew Walker 2017 (3 years)

Or similar.

Damn three years you had to remind me! :P
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

Re: Pick your best 22 players

Reply #128 –
This is an interesting question, considering we have change our list over so much.

There are many names yet to pull on a Carlton jumper that would be pushing for a selection - more so than in recent seasons.

I wonder how much our votes will change by the end of the 2015 season...??
"...that's the thing about opinion - you don't have to know anything to have one..."  Andre Agassi commenting on Pat Cash 2004
"...the less you know - the more you believe..." - Bono 2006

Re: Pick your best 22 players

Reply #129 –
Quote from: ItsOurTime on
Quote from: kruddler on
Quote from: Professer E on
Didn't he sign a long term contract recently?

For all contract questions and answers, check this thread which i continue to update.

http://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=6.0

In this case, Bell is signed up for 2 more years.

Hey Kruds, when you update that info for new contracts, could you add the year they signed the new contract as we often get questions about whether a player had signed for 2/3/4/etc years half way through their contracts.

Eg

Contracted until the end of…
1 Andrew Walker 2017 (2014)

Or


Contracted until the end of…
1 Andrew Walker 2017 (3 years)

Or similar.

That info is usually in the thread itself....but i'll see what i can do from now on.

Best 22 results - part 1 (off-season)

Reply #130 –
Time for a revote!

After seeing the boys play a game (or 2) so far this pre-season we have a better idea of how good our players are going and who should/should not deserve a spot in the best 22.

So go ahead, pick your best 22 players. You have 22 votes, so use them wisely!

Best 22 results - part 1 (off-season)

Reply #131 –
Full resultes from the original poll are as follows....
1 - Walker    65 (4.5%)
2 - Menzel    66 (4.6%)
3 - Murphy    66 (4.6%)
4 - Gibbs    66 (4.6%)
5 - Judd    66 (4.6%)
6 - Simpson    63 (4.4%)
7 - Buckley    57 (4%)
8 - Kreuzer    65 (4.5%)
9 - Cripps    32 (2.2%)
10 - Watson    4 (0.3%)
11 - Warnock    5 (0.3%)
12 - Boekhorst    21 (1.5%)
13 - Yarran    66 (4.6%)
14 - Jones    41 (2.8%)
15 - Docherty    56 (3.9%)
16 - Viojo-Rainbow    3 (0.2%)
17 - Rowe    65 (4.5%)
18 - Jaksch    34 (2.4%)
19 - Giles    0 (0%)
20 - Holman    0 (0%)
21 - Sheehan    11 (0.8%)
22 - Tutt    6 (0.4%)
23 - Henderson    66 (4.6%)
24 - Whiley    13 (0.9%)
25 - Smith    1 (0.1%)
26 - Foster    0 (0%)
27 - Armfield    3 (0.2%)
28 - Bell    40 (2.8%)
29 - Gowers    0 (0%)
30 - Johnson    0 (0%)
31 - Dick    2 (0.1%)
32 - Graham    8 (0.6%)
33 - Everitt    62 (4.3%)
34 - Walsh    2 (0.1%)
35 - Curnow    51 (3.5%)
36 - Wood    13 (0.9%)
37 - Fields    0 (0%)
38 - Byrne    0 (0%)
39 - Thomas    64 (4.4%)
40 - Jamison    66 (4.6%)
41 - Casboult    64 (4.4%)
42 - Tuohy    57 (4%)
43 - White    18 (1.3%)
44 - Carrazzo    49 (3.4%)
46 - Ellard    2 (0.1%)
47 - Russell    0 (0%)

Starters: 60 or more votes...
Jamison
Henderson
Judd
Yarran
Gibbs
Murphy
Walker
Everitt
Menzel
Rowe
Kruezer
Simpson
Thomas
Casboult

Probables: 40-59 votes
Tuohy
Buckley
Docherty
Curnow
Carrazzo
Jones
Bell

Possibles: 10-39 votes
Jakchs
Cripps
Boekhorst
White
Wood
Whiley
Sheehan

Probably not: 1-9 votes
Graham
Tutt
Warnock
Watson
Armfield
Viojo-Rainbow
Ellard
Walsh
Dick
Smith

Highly unlikely: 0 votes
Giles
Holmes
Foster
Gowers
Johnson
Fields
Byrne
Russell

Re: Pick your best 22 players

Reply #133 –
By todays game, White, Jaksch and Byrne are likely to be far closer to Probables than lower down the list. One game doesn't always say too much in the long run though.
This digital world is too much for us insects to understand.

Re: Pick your best 22 players - NEW POLL! (pre-season)

Reply #134 –
A fit Carrots is a walk up start.
Finals, then 4 in a row!