Next weekend we play the 'Aints at Etihad.
One week at a time Crash. ;)
Nice to nail that one and be, believe it or not, 7-5. St.Kilda though is an ultimate danger game. Can be very good or very bad but just the side to take advantage of a side just below it's best.
We have a rough run after that, after the bye we have GWS away, Pies, Crows at home, Eagles at home, then Sydney away and Hawthorn in Tassie. Win a couple of home games at least and the season really takes off with a soft last 4 games.
I'll keep knocking Gorringe. It's obviously my knocking is helping him play well...lol. When you're on a good thing.....
I can see the Aints speedsters pulling our pants down next week :o
I can see the Aints speedsters pulling our pants down next week :o
Bloody Hell!!!!! All doom and gloom mate. Buggar!!!!! :( :( :( :( :(
I reckon we'll belt 'em . :D :D :D :D
6-5? I'm ecstatic, if we go 7-5, I will be seriously. We havent had more wins than losses since mid 2013.
We'll win easily .Its about time we started beating the Sainters there. I remember seeing way to many thrashings from them. Fev at full back anyone?
Bloody Hell!!!!! All doom and gloom mate. Buggar!!!!! :( :( :( :( :(
I reckon we'll belt 'em . :D :D :D :D
Cool, ....I'll go with you then Sands ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
I'm sure we'll be up and about and more focused next week than we were today. If so we should beat them.
Next week we'll have the slight advantage with the extra day break. Hopefully gives the boys a better chance to freshen up.
Saints are a good young side but I think we will go okay. Senior hardened bodies help.. big tackles hurt young bodies. Our defensive game is excellent haven't seen it this good in decades - we are tough to score against. 8 day break is really nice
I can see the Aints speedsters pulling our pants down next week :o
For some reason I can't see it happening.
The way we play is a style that is going to really trouble the younger/lighter Saints. The Cats game obviously took a fair bit out of the guys for today.
And if the saints get done again, by Christ I couldn't care
Sam Fisher will be a definite out.
Its good our back six is functioning so well, the Aints have a few dangerous fwd options so they will need to be on their game. As someone else said, we are very hard to score against, that will continue next week.
Go Blue.
If we get up this will be another really solid win, more than people will give it credit for. McCartin, Membrey, Bruce and when Riewoldt is down there will be a big challenge for our backline.
Make sure the game is played mainly in our fwd half and we won't be too worried by the Saints forwards, they will have to worry about ours.
The way the saints are going at the moment (crows 68 - 14), we might have the confidence advantage too ;)
Blues by a couple :))
I will be happy with a one point win.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-05/saints-duo-done-for-day
Hugh Goddard and Paddy McCartin both left the field in separate incidents, leaving the Saints down to two on the bench.
Goddard has suffered a suspected Achilles injury during the second quarter against Adelaide on Sunday.
The club’s evening went from bad to worse on the injury front late in the third term, when emerging star McCartin was also stretchered from the field.
McCartin clashed heads with teammate Jack Newnes, only to clash heads again with Adelaide’s Luke Brown when he rebounded off Newnes.
Bad news for them.
Good news for us.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-match-report/afl-2016-adelaide-crows-put-st-kilda-saints-to-the-sword-20160605-gpc4i3.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-match-report/afl-2016-adelaide-crows-put-st-kilda-saints-to-the-sword-20160605-gpc4i3.html)
And if the saints get done again, by Christ I couldn't care
I have yet to read the rest of the thread, so forgive me if I repeat...
"Won't you meet me, under the clocks,
We'll go walking by the river through the parks..."
I'd be keeping a close eye on Krooz, and whether he's in or out. Look so much better with him on the park, which is a blessing and a curse.
Apparently Riewoldt also doubtful for the Saints due to a knee injury sustained early in the game which he played out the game with.
From the match report...
INJURIES
Carlton: Gorringe (knee), Kreuzer (ill)
Both might be fine but we'll have to wait and see
After a sub standard 2nd half against the Lions, I reckon Bolts might just get them fired up for our biggest win of the season so far against the 'Aints! Wouldn't that be nice?!!
And if the saints get done again, by Christ I couldn't care
Ahh....the Weddos, a man of my era !
I'd actually prefer it if they went in with the 4 big blokes... not sure that is working too well for them. Great if it comes off, but they seem to get smashed if it doesn't. Riewoldt out would be good.
Apparently Phillips had a strong game in the VFL, and it will be interesting to see how he goes doing the #1 ruck duties solo.
I think this will be a tighter match than we think, but I reckon we'll get the chocolates in this one.
A nice 8 day break will be very welcome by the players
Pity it's at Etihad as I reckon it still suits them better than us. Bolton's team defence has narrowed the gap but our forward structure is still fragile. We couldn't even slice through the Lions. We still have good prospects given the Saints' injuries but it won't be pretty to watch.
IF...Kreuzer is out then Phillips comes in IMO.
At this stage Silvagni in for someone. Looks like he's ready for a game.
Imagine the roar when he gets his first goal/kick
Apparently Phillips had a strong game in the VFL,
Not really
At this stage Silvagni in for someone. Looks like he's ready for a game.
He is the only player from the VFL team who played well enough to deserve promotion - despite still spending a significant amount of time on the bench; he is clearly being managed with care.
He is the only player from the VFL team who played well enough to deserve promotion - despite still spending a significant amount of time on the bench; he is clearly being managed with care.
As he should be RR.
The other part of the equation is who would he displace? From what I have seen, he is playing more as a small or medium forward and I suspect that Lamb and Wright are more than safe in the 22.
As he should be RR.
The other part of the equation is who would he displace? From what I have seen, he is playing more as a small or medium forward and I suspect that Lamb and Wright are more than safe in the 22.
But are Everitt and Walker?
As a 3rd tall he's probably more similar to these 2 than Lamb and Wright.
Silvagni's first game will be home game so he won't be playing this week.
Very winnable game this.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tr-st-kilda-saints (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tr-st-kilda-saints)
Rowe on Bruce a given.
Weitering or Plowman - or both - on Riewoldt.
injuries?
Player Injury Estimated Return
Sam Fisher Hamstring 3-4 weeks
Nathan Freeman Hamstring TBC
Hugh Goddard Achilles Season
Billy Longer Concussion 4 weeks
Paddy McCartin Concussion/neck TBC
Daniel McKenzie Illness Test
Nick Riewoldt Knee Test
But are Everitt and Walker?
As a 3rd tall he's probably more similar to these 2 than Lamb and Wright.
From what I have seen he is not playing tall and is most similar to Lamb and Wright.
Its hard to hate the Aints as much since Therapist retired.
Very winnable game this.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tr-st-kilda-saints (http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tr-st-kilda-saints)
Rowe on Bruce a given.
Weitering or Plowman - or both - on Riewoldt.
injuries?
Player Injury Estimated Return
Sam Fisher Hamstring 3-4 weeks
Nathan Freeman Hamstring TBC
Hugh Goddard Achilles Season
Billy Longer Concussion 4 weeks
Paddy McCartin Concussion/neck TBC
Daniel McKenzie Illness Test
Nick Riewoldt Knee Test
Riewoldt will miss according to reports last night.
Its hard to hate the Aints as much since Therapist retired.
I had to read that 10 ten times thinking "who is the Therapist?" lol
The Saints back 6 against the Crows - no wonder the Crows' forwards had a field day!
Noting Goddard now an out too.
HF 41 Mitch McGovern 4 Josh Jenkins 21 Rory Atkins
HB 17 Dylan Roberton 23 Hugh Goddard 11 Leigh Montagna
FF 18 Eddie Betts 13 Taylor Walker 27 Tom Lynch
FB 19 Sam Gilbert 24 Sean Dempster 14 Jarryn Geary
Levi to kick 6 - break out game!
Dempster only 191cm - maybe Cripps at FF :)
Saints forward line?
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-st-kilda-youngster-paddy-mccartin-will-not-play-against-carlton-20160607-gpd9he.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-st-kilda-youngster-paddy-mccartin-will-not-play-against-carlton-20160607-gpd9he.html)
St Kilda's forward line looks set to be decimated this week against Carlton with youngster Paddy McCartin ruled out and captain Nick Riewoldt in serious doubt.
McCartin was concussed for the second time this season against Adelaide on Sunday and St Kilda football manager Jamie Cox confirmed on Tuesday that the former No.1 pick would not be considered for selection.
Riewoldt is considered a 50-50 proposition at best to face the Blues at Etihad Stadium after he injured a knee during the Saints' crushing 88-point loss to the Crows.
In further bad news for the Saints, veteran defender Sean Dempster will miss the next month due to a knee injury and youngster Hugh Goddard will likely be sidelined for 12 months after rupturing his Achilles tendon at Adelaide Oval.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-st-kilda-youngster-paddy-mccartin-will-not-play-against-carlton-20160607-gpd9he.html#ixzz4ArAjghsa
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This is starting to look like it should be a 10 goal win for us, with all of the Aints injuries.
A good test of our boys mental strength this week I reckon....
Dempster out too!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-07/further-blows-for-injuryhit-saints (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-07/further-blows-for-injuryhit-saints)
This is starting to look like it should be a 10 goal win for us, with all of the Aints injuries.
A good test of our boys mental strength this week I reckon....
100% agree this is the teams greatest test this year thus far to clean up that percentage. Let's see how they fare.
This is starting to look like it should be a 10 goal win for us,
The last time I heard that kind of arrogance here was Brettie before the infamous Gold Coast game that got Ratten sacked.
100% agree this is the teams greatest test this year thus far to clean up that percentage. Let's see how they fare.
It'll certainly be interesting to see if we can really do the business on a weakened and lowly team but I'm not getting too carried away. Could also be a player development opportunity?
This is starting to look like it should be a 10 goal win for us, with all of the Aints injuries.
A good test of our boys mental strength this week I reckon....
I reckon Bolton will be hosing down the prospects of an easy game and focusing on the mental strength.
I reckon Bolton will be hosing down the prospects of an easy game and focusing on the mental strength.
Bolton knows there are no easy games, I think he will be looking for a strong 4 (not 2) qtr effort. If the boys bring that effort, it should boost our % at least a little!
The last time I heard that kind of arrogance here was Brettie before the infamous Gold Coast game that got Ratten sacked.
And he's never been the same since. :)
Cant afford to take them lightly though, and don't think Bolts will allow this to happen, especially following the haphazard way we finished off the game against the Lions.
And he's never been the same since. :)
Ratts or Brettie ?
Make no mistake, St Kilda are a very very good football side. >:D
I think we should give Jaksch a go , good opportunity to see what he can offer.
I'm interested to see how he reacts to the new game plan and Boltons mentoring.
Go Baggers
Agree we should not take any team for granted irrespective of whom we are up against.
I just think Silvani can wait a while longer and continue to be well manger.
Jaksch however has to be assessed at some point.
I had to read that 10 ten times thinking "who is the Therapist?" lol
To you, or anyone else who might be struggling with this....
[flash=420,315]https://www.youtube.com/v/0bxnuOdWUmA[/flash]
In the same vein but much better imo was this clip from Arrested Development:
[flash=200,200]https://youtu.be/pz8aYiH_nRg[/flash]
Saints forward line?
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-st-kilda-youngster-paddy-mccartin-will-not-play-against-carlton-20160607-gpd9he.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-st-kilda-youngster-paddy-mccartin-will-not-play-against-carlton-20160607-gpd9he.html)
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I heard this is 4 episodes of concussion in 2 years.
He needs to be treated very carefully with all of the current evidence around chronic brain conditions following multiple bouts of concussion.
I feel sorry for him really. I know what I'd be telling him to do if he were my kid, but he probably wouldn't want to hear it.
From Macca's injury update, sounds like Special K will be good to go for Sunday's game!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ed-curnow-celebrates-100th-game-with-carlton-on-the-rise-20160608-gpe6i5.html
100th game for Ed Curnow.
Well done young man.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ed-curnow-celebrates-100th-game-with-carlton-on-the-rise-20160608-gpe6i5.html
100th game for Ed Curnow.
Well done young man.
Indeed!
Ed has taken a different path and suffered his share of setbacks on his way to his hundredth game as a very good midfielder. Like many of his team-mates, Ed has lifted his game to a new level this season and I suspect he has finally silenced his doubters.
He has been fantastic past two and bit years. I would consider him an elite tagger that finds plenty and I mean plenty of the ball himself. Well done Ed..your grunt and relentless running is awesome to see.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ed-curnow-celebrates-100th-game-with-carlton-on-the-rise-20160608-gpe6i5.html
100th game for Ed Curnow.
Well done young man.
Kudos to this young man. An inspiration, no doubt to his younger brother, his team mates and even we arm chair critics!
A great, great effort.
Just make sure Charlie makes a ton with us and we'll have first dibs on most of the progeny of a family of incredible athletes.
Kudos to this young man. An inspiration, no doubt to his younger brother, his team mates and even we arm chair critics!
A great, great effort.
I was initially an Ed supporter, then after watching the way he kicks the ball, an Ed critic. Now it's gone full circle. I think he's one of the premier midfielders in the competition. His disposal has improved dramatically and his work ethic is second to none. He's not bad aiming at the big sticks either, something I feel he should try to do more of. Well done Ed on 100 games!
I was initially an Ed supporter, then after watching the way he kicks the ball, an Ed critic. Now it's gone full circle. I think he's one of the premier midfielders in the competition. His disposal has improved dramatically and his work ethic is second to none. He's not bad aiming at the big sticks either, something I feel he should try to do more of. Well done Ed on 100 games!
x2 Good summary..much improved footballer..
It wasn't just his kicking - early on, he panicked with his backward handballs when a tackle was imminent and would miss his target. Thankfully, he outgrew that.
Ed, through reasons outlined previously in this thread, has elevated himself to being one of the most important players in our squad and this year that has become even more apparent. Well done Ed and congratulations!
Yep, congratulations Ed Curnow on 100 games in the Navy Blue.
Been a revelation this year as a ball-winning midfielder in his own right. Very important for us, and him.
The midfield now has greater depth, due to a couple of factors (at least) in a couple of extra quality mids/footballers and an increase in output and consistency from all of these blokes. It makes all the difference:
Kreuzer
Cripps
Gibbs
Murphy
E.Curnow
Thomas
Simpson
Kerridge
Wright
And, these blokes have been 'rolling' through there also:
Sumner
Lamb
Graham
If Sumner comes back in, who goes out?
Graham?
Sumner's not a full time mid.....and must lack a tank given his foot problems?
If Sumner comes back in, who goes out?
Graham?
Sumner's not a full time mid.....and must lack a tank given his foot problems?
I think it will be Graham.
If Sumner comes back in, who goes out?
Graham?
Sumner's not a full time mid.....and must lack a tank given his foot problems?
That would mean one less player in our midfield rotations unless the flankers increase their time in the midfield - Murphy was spending a bit of time as a half forward.
The essence of Bolton's gameplan is that it doesn't matter which 18 players are on the ground, they all know the role that's required of them in any situation.
So all this talk of SOSOS made me dream last night that he was selected to make his debut this week. In the dream, he ran out wearing no.1. Just sayin'.
Congrats to Ed for getting to 100 games, great effort !!
A talented athlete, but not so much a gifted footballer, his tenacity and hard work and effort are what has gotten him to where he is today.
It took him a bit longer than some and he had to do it the hard way, but this achievement has been very well earned !!
Wow SOSOS has been named as part of the bench? Hope he gets a shot
B: Kade Simpson - Jacob Weitering - Zach Tuohy
HB: Lachie Plowman - Sam Rowe - Dale Thomas
C: Sam Docherty - Patrick Cripps - Ed Curnow
HF: Sam Kerridge - Levi Casboult - Andrew Walker
F: Matthew Wright - Andrejs Everitt - Liam Sumner
RUCKS: Matthew Kreuzer - Jed Lamb - Bryce Gibbs
Interchange from: Dennis Armfield - Ciaran Byrne -Daniel Gorringe - Nick Graham - Andrew Phillips - Jack Silvagni - Simon White
In: Sumner, Silvagni, Phillips
Out: Nil
New: Jack Silvagni (Oakleigh Chargers)
So all this talk of SOSOS made me dream last night that he was selected to make his debut this week. In the dream, he ran out wearing no.1. Just sayin'.
Dream might be closer than you think?
And so it begins, the 1st game for another Silvagni. Im sure he will leave his mark on the club like his Grandfather and Father before him.
Congratulations Jack!
Dream might be closer than you think?
LMAO
Damn, I was looking forward to watching Jack at Box Hill on Saturday ;)
It's good to see that Kreuzer has overcome his concussion.
Any of Armfield, Byrne, Gorringe, Graham and White would be stiff to miss out, but at least one will ???
Damn, I was looking forward to watching Jack at Box Hill on Saturday ;)
It's good to see that Kreuzer has overcome his concussion.
Any of Armfield, Byrne, Gorringe, Graham and White would be stiff to miss out, but at least one will ???
Not so sure DJC.
Jack is no certainty to be in the final line up.
I'm reading all that as White out, Sumner in.
Phillips and SOS will likely play in the 2nds, White may be held back as an emergency.
I'm reading all that as White out, Sumner in.
Pretty much.
Although Phillips might be an in, for Kreuzer if he doesn't come up.
I'm thinking Graham out, Sumner in
Phillips in only in Kreuzer doesn't get up
Jack remains emergency and has the weekend off footy, won't hurt him at this stage
Damn, I was looking forward to watching Jack at Box Hill on Saturday ;)
It's good to see that Kreuzer has overcome his concussion.
Any of Armfield, Byrne, Gorringe, Graham and White would be stiff to miss out, but at least one will ???
I'm guessing on form that Armfield is a dead cert.
Agree 100% re Armfield. Last two weeks could be the best he's ever played, same with Simon White, no way either of those will miss out unless theyre really sore. Gorringe showed a bit last week, albeit against ordinary opposition, but I think he'll get plenty of games for the rest of the year to see how he develops, could be anything. And Byrne is a keeper, just need to get him to 50 games and then watch out, no way he'll be dropped if he's fit. Graham on the other hand looked out of his depth on the weekend, I know its difficult stepping up in class when you've spent weeks in the VFL, but if someone has to make way, he's the one for me
For mine Grahame would be an OUT. Anyone else would be stiff, unless not 100% fit.
I'm guessing on form that Armfield is a dead cert.
To play or be dropped?
The only player named on the bench that could possibly be dropped is Graham.
If so, one of Silvagni and Sumner come in. On principle, Sumner should play, but blooding SOSOS may be too tempting.
Armfield becomes the games record holder for the club in number 27 next senior match.
I expect that will happen this week.
Agree 100% re Armfield. Last two weeks could be the best he's ever played, same with Simon White, no way either of those will miss out unless theyre really sore. Gorringe showed a bit last week, albeit against ordinary opposition, but I think he'll get plenty of games for the rest of the year to see how he develops, could be anything. And Byrne is a keeper, just need to get him to 50 games and then watch out, no way he'll be dropped if he's fit. Graham on the other hand looked out of his depth on the weekend, I know its difficult stepping up in class when you've spent weeks in the VFL, but if someone has to make way, he's the one for me
I thought Graham was OK. I don't think that you can expect him to accumulate possessions like Murphy would but he did get three clearances and made 7 tackles.
Dropping Graham would mean that the part time midfielders would have to spend more time in the midfield.
The only player named on the bench that could possibly be dropped is Graham.
If so, one of Silvagni and Sumner come in. On principle, Sumner should play, but blooding SOSOS may be too tempting.
Sumner is in RE, he's not on the bench, in the actual side so his is an in more than likely.
The only player named on the bench that could possibly be dropped is Graham.
If so, one of Silvagni and Sumner come in. On principle, Sumner should play, but blooding SOSOS may be too tempting.
Sumner is named in the 18 and that usually means he will play.
To play or be dropped?
Play mate. Along with Simmo, Army is another "heart and soul of the club" type player ATM.
Sumner is named in the 18 and that usually means he will play.
In that case I can't see Silvagni playing unless someone withdraws through injury.
For mine Grahame would be an OUT. Anyone else would be stiff, unless not 100% fit.
Agree, as you know I just don't rate him so for me? Any excuse at all to drop him will do.
Carlton
B: Kade Simpson, Jacob Weitering, Zach Tuohy.
HB: Lachie Plowman, Sam Rowe, Dale Thomas.
C: Sam Docherty, Patrick Cripps, Ed Curnow.
HF: Sam Kerridge, Levi Casboult, Andrew Walker.
F: Matthew Wright, Andrejs Everitt, Liam Sumner.
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Jed Lamb, Bryce Gibbs.
Int: Dennis Armfield, Ciaran Byrne, Daniel Gorringe, Nick Graham, Andrew Phillips, Jack Silvagni, Simon White.
In: Liam Sumner, Andrew Phillips, Jack Silvagni.
New: Jack Silvagni
I have to admit that I have no idea at all how the MC will jump this week. I have criticized the team structure and I still have issues with it, but the MC have been right more than they have been wrong.
My own thoughts are simple: last week when Kreuzer went off, so did we. We struggled to get the ball out of the middle, even when he was playing. That suggests to me that we need a back up option, a PROPER back up option, not just Rowe and Gorringe, in the ruck to give our mids a decent chance.
But will we play Phillips? I would have thought that unlikely. He did OK last week, but I'd like to see him REALLY play well before getting promotion.
I thought Sumner would come back via the VFL. That seems not to be the case. White and Armfield have played some of their best ever football and they are named on the bench.
I feel like Jon Snow.....
St Kilda
B: Dylan Roberton, Tom Lee, Jarryn Geary.
HB: Jack Newnes, Luke Delaney, Leigh Montagna.
C: Shane Savage, David Armitage, Jimmy Webster.
HF: Maverick Weller, Josh Bruce, Luke Dunstan.
F: Sam Gilbert, Tim Membrey, Jade Gresham.
Foll: Tom Hickey, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven.
Int: Blake Acres, Jack Billings, Brodie Murdoch, Nathan Wright, Jack Sinclair, Darren Minchington, Lewis Pierce.
In: Tom Lee, Luke Delaney, Blake Acres, Nathan Wright, Jack Sinclair, Darren Minchington, Lewis Pierce.
Out: Sean Dempster (Knee), Hugh Goddard (Achilles), Nick Riewoldt (Knee), Paddy McCartin (Concussion)
I also like looking at the opposition to make sure we have a good match-up for everyone. However, I look at this side and they seem to be responding to us: not the worst position for us to be in, but one I am not used to being in.
The 'Aints are supposed to be further along their rebuild than we are: I've always found that difficult to believe. But they have a huge number of no-names and they usually play well against us.
Usually play well against us? we've beaten them the last 4 games by an average of 48 points!!
You'd think that the final interchange will be Armfield, Byrne, White and either Gorringe or Phillips.
Usually play well against us? we've beaten them the last 4 games by an average of 48 points!!
Their stars often have bad days against us, but their no-names (and most other teams' no-names) often play well against us. Especially when we are favoured to win.
Silvagni named in the squad is bad news for Jaksch.
Gorringe would be stiff to be dropped but we'll probably go with Phillips, his form was pretty good before he was injured.
Byrne and Armfield will both surely play and Graham should, which means White misses out after a real good one against Geelong.
Stiff, but at least there's competition for spots.
To play or be dropped?
To play.
Agree, as you know I just don't rate him so for me? Any excuse at all to drop him will do.
Yes understand GTC. I would not say he was that bad last week - just not as good as other options available for this week. If he plays so be it but the pleasing thing is that we have to scratch our heads a bit to decide who not to play as no one last week was that bad as to be an obvious omission.
To play.
Good. Id burn my membership if they dropped him.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jack-silvagni-aims-to-become-thirdgeneration-blue-with-travis-cloke-dropped-again-20160609-gpfqyg.html
So, it's Son of Jo (SOJ).
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jack-silvagni-aims-to-become-thirdgeneration-blue-with-travis-cloke-dropped-again-20160609-gpfqyg.html
So, it's Son of Jo (SOJ).
We've sorted this haven't we? He has stated he has been SOS (Son of Stephen) since high school. SOS it is then.
We've sorted this haven't we? He has stated he has been SOS (Son of Stephen) since high school. SOS it is then.
I don't know whether we have - I keep seeing SOSOS on here - I think I'll call him Jack Silvagni. 8)
SOSOS sounds ridiculous.
I think we go with what he stated as well.
He stated his name is SOS and that works for me.....
Say to yourself "C'mon SOSOS", it sounds daft.
C'mon SOS sounds natural
I don't know whether we have - I keep seeing SOSOS on here - I think I'll call him Jack Silvagni. 8)
lol
SOSOS sounds ridiculous.
I think we go with what he stated as well.
He stated his name is SOS and that works for me.....
Say to yourself "C'mon SOSOS", it sounds daft.
C'mon SOS sounds natural
Agreed. I hereby officially Christen Jack Silvagni "SOS" (Son Of Stephen) and forever to be referred to as such on this site.
Amen.
Wow????...some of the outs suggested on here to get SOSOS his first game have me scratching my head....I don't think he is quite ready to go yet....and...there is no way he his 93Kg as described in his profile on the clubs site...back in the gym mate...few more good 2nds games please.... ;)
I don't think SOS will will play for the record.
I would play him and probably drop Gorringe and Graham.
The reason for Gorringe isn't bad form, but good form of Jack deserves a run and this is the best team to play him against with quite a few outs.
White and Armfield simply cannot be dropped I feel, both have been very good recently.
What I think will happen is SOS will miss and this is letting him know he is close to his debut.
Agreed. I hereby officially Christen Jack Silvagni "SOS" (Son Of Stephen) and forever to be referred to as such on this site.
Amen.
What do we call Steve Silvagni ?
What do we call Steve Silvagni ?
SosSr
SosSr
Hmm, I would've thought Steve is SOS and Jack is G-SOS.
Hmm, I would've thought Steve is SOS and Jack is G-SOS.
Steve is SOS, Jack is Jack and Ben will be Ben :)
What do we call Steve Silvagni ?
DOJ
What do we call Steve Silvagni ?
SOS
Good to see the club following the path if they're good enough to play then age should not matter - whether it be 17 or 37!
Albeit it's on the extended bench.
Good to see the club following the path if they're good enough to play then age should not matter - whether it be 17 or 37!
Albeit it's on the extended bench.
Its nothing new, its been the case since the dawn of time. If they are ready physically and form warrants it (ie they have earned a spot), they play. There is also the other dilemma that the player playing well in the 2's needs to push someone out when the team is playing well and there are no injuries.
DOJ
I did think of that one, but DOJ is a bit close to dodgy, and given Steve's involvement in the "brown paper bag" saga, I thought I might just leave it alone.
I wouldn't play him (SOJ) ahead of Walker or Everitt at this point.
B: Kade Simpson, Jacob Weitering, Zach Tuohy.
HB: Lachie Plowman, Sam Rowe, Dale Thomas.
C: Sam Docherty, Patrick Cripps, Ed Curnow.
HF: Sam Kerridge, Levi Casboult, Andrew Walker.
F: Matthew Wright, Andrejs Everitt, Liam Sumner.
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Jed Lamb, Bryce Gibbs.
Int: Dennis Armfield, Ciaran Byrne, Daniel Gorringe, Nick Graham, Andrew Phillips, Jack Silvagni, Simon White.
Of that extended squad, I'd have Armfield, Byrne, Gorringe and White in the starting 22.
Emergencies then would be Graham, Phillips and Silvagni.
I'm making the trip to Melbourne this round to see the boys play and would love to be there to see Jack Silvagni take the field for the first time. But surely the match committee will hold off his first appearance until a carlton home game so more fans have the chance to welcome him to the big time? 2 July vs Collingwood would be a perfect round for it. Huge crowd against traditional rivals (and a welcome distraction from the election).
Also, I vote for naming him J-SOS. It has a certain ring to it ;)
I wouldn't play him (SOJ) ahead of Walker or Everitt at this point.
Certainly agree Flyboy , they deserve there spot, though keen to see SOSOS or DOJ or jack or what we will call him come though and have an impact. If he itsnt physically ready and mature to handle it lets keep him on ice till he is. If the more learned people say he is lets get it happening then and see how he foes. I mean he couldn't me less physically ready than Simo was when he started?
It'll be interesting to see whether Jack plays for sure but I've got a suspicion that he's named as an emergency possibly to keep fan interest bubbling? Could be wrong big time - we'll know later today.
It'll be interesting to see whether Jack plays for sure but I've got a suspicion that he's named as an emergency possibly to keep fan interest bubbling? Could be wrong big time - we'll know later today.
I thought the same thing when they named Cas and Kruze a few weeks ago then lo and behold, they played. I reckon he may be a real chance, not just games to keep the faithful interested.
Just watched BBs media conference - just love the way he remains focussed and won't be drawn or distracted. He's polite but seems definitely disinterested in being a 'media darling' or 'star'... remains 100% coach.
I think in the longrun, the best thing that could ve happened to us is that we didn't absolutely hammer the Lions like it looked like we were going to do at one stage.
It gave BB plenty of things for us to work on improving, and left the players and coaches a bit unsatisfied with our performance, which helps the focus going into this week.
I think in the longrun, the best thing that could ve happened to us is that we didn't absolutely hammer the Lions like it looked like we were going to do at one stage.
It gave BB plenty of things for us to work on improving, and left the players and coaches a bit unsatisfied with our performance, which helps the focus going into this week.
I have a feeling that, even if we were to win by 20 goals, Bolton would find plenty of things to work on :)
In Sumner
Out Graham
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-06-10/blues-make-one-change
I notice that Jordan Bannister is one of the umps for this game.
I notice that Jordan Bannister is one of the umps for this game.
I hope that if he tweets about a "sh1t decision", it won't have been to our disadvantage!
Actually, I reckon he's pretty good and his experience as a player is a contributing factor. I think his tweet was pretty good too. While I accept that umpires can't be drawn into debating decisions, an occasional "I got it wrong" does no harm.
In Sumner
Out Graham
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-06-10/blues-make-one-change
It looks like I will get to see Jack at Box Hill tomorrow :)
Who will make up the midfield rotations; Simpson, Wright, Sumner, Tuohy or a contribution from several players?
In Sumner
Out Graham
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-06-10/blues-make-one-change
No real surprise. Gorringe has surprised me to be honest. He's shown some good signs and deserved another gig giving Phillips a chance to get a little more match fitness though he may be held back for Sunday just in case (probably along with Graham).
As hard as Graham works he's still got the problem he's had for so long, too slow and just doesn't hurt the opposition enough with his disposals. And that wrestling of the ball out of Cripps' hands against Brisvegas was not a good look. We might never see Carrots here again (*wink*).
And mentioning SOJ eases him into the fray of media hysteria. He's got another couple of weeks with the NBs to improve his fitness provided he's not held back just in case for Sunday.
Nicky G is depth at best for us and it's a real statement being made by the MC to bring Sumner straight in for him.
Graham is a bit of a one trick pony and really needs to watch extended footage of the Mitchells, Sam and Tom.
Needs to hurt the opp more when he has the ball and desperately needs to change his running patterns and use angles to create space due to his lack of foot speed and awareness. Want him to make it.
I'm glad that Jack S isn't getting a game yet. And boy oh boy where does that leave Jakcsh? Sheesh.
Want us to dominate these turds as they are my most hated team, stemming back to the Kosi, Milne and BJ days. Their supporters back in our dark days stick out like a sore thumb imo.
Smash em and bash em. I wouldn't mind 1AW ironing out Montagna ala Christensen >:D
Bit stiff on Graham - needs continuity in games. Need to do better in clearances and hitting the scoreboard. Sumner applies good forward line pressure but doesn't get much of the ball.
Nicky G is depth at best for us and it's a real statement being made by the MC to bring Sumner straight in for him.
Graham is a bit of a one trick pony and really needs to watch extended footage of the Mitchells, Sam and Tom.
Needs to hurt the opp more when he has the ball and desperately needs to change his running patterns and use angles to create space due to his lack of foot speed and awareness. Want him to make it.
I'm glad that Jack S isn't getting a game yet. And boy oh boy where does that leave Jakcsh? Sheesh.
Want us to dominate these turds as they are my most hated team, stemming back to the Kosi, Milne and BJ days. Their supporters back in our dark days stick out like a sore thumb imo.
Smash em and bash em. I wouldn't mind 1AW ironing out Montagna ala Christensen >:D
x2 Not a real fan of Montagna either...maybe because he is a mate of Milne...
Joey had a shocker last week with only about 12 disposals. May it continue this week!
Bit stiff on Graham - needs continuity in games. Need to do better in clearances and hitting the scoreboard. Sumner applies good forward line pressure but doesn't get much of the ball.
You watch how much ball Sumner gets when he starts getting real midfield minutes.
Also, I vote for naming him J-SOS. It has a certain ring to it ;)
That will come in handy when we have 3 sos' running around and one as list manager.
J-SOS
B-SOS
T-SOS
With the saints outs and the lack of ins, we should really be working on our percentage this week!
Based on that statement alone, it makes this a 'danger game'.
With the saints outs and the lack of ins, we should really be working on our percentage this week!
Based on that statement alone, it makes this a 'danger game'.
:)
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Also, I vote for naming him J-SOS. It has a certain ring to it ;)
I agree - it does sound good. The problem is, you have to be too flexible with the original acronym. SOS obviously stands for Son Of Serge. If you call him J-SOS, then it's Jack, Son Of Serge, which makes me feel squidgy, not to mention the fact that it leaves the door open for opposition supporters to make inferences that I'd rather not know about.
I agree - it does sound good. The problem is, you have to be too flexible with the original acronym. SOS obviously stands for Son Of Serge. If you call him J-SOS, then it's Jack, Son Of Serge, which makes me feel squidgy, not to mention the fact that it leaves the door open for opposition supporters to make inferences that I'd rather not know about.
If he's known around the club as SOJ, that's good enough for me :)
If he's known around the club as SOJ, that's good enough for me :)
SOJ, as in Son of Jo ?
I agree - it does sound good. The problem is, you have to be too flexible with the original acronym. SOS obviously stands for Son Of Serge. If you call him J-SOS, then it's Jack, Son Of Serge, which makes me feel squidgy, not to mention the fact that it leaves the door open for opposition supporters to make inferences that I'd rather not know about.
Son of Steve doesn't work?
Son of Steve doesn't work?
SOS is son of Serge - if you adhere correctly to the original acronym, J-SOS becomes Jack, Son of Serge.
What kind of sad, lonely old man am I ? How much time have I spent on this issue ?
SOS is son of Serge - if you adhere correctly to the original acronym, J-SOS becomes Jack, Son of Serge.
What kind of sad, lonely old man am I ? How much time have I spent on this issue ?
Got one for you...BOB.....
Got one for you...BOB.....
Whenever I hear the name Bob I think of Blackadder!
But I agree, we must accommodate Tom, Ben and Jack.
Got one for you...BOB.....
I'm officially withdrawing from this ideas fest.
SOJ, as in Son of Jo ?
Yes. The players were calling him SOJ today.
Yes. The players were calling him SOJ today.
Yep, SOJ (kudos to Jo) is what I'd heard too....
Fair enough too. She is still hot.
Just my two cents but i think i'll call Jack Silvagni Jack Silvagni.
With the saints outs and the lack of ins, we should really be working on our percentage this week!
Based on that statement alone, it makes this a 'danger game'.
Oops. :-[