Carlton Supporters Club

Effort was poor and reminded me of our 'bad old days'. Horrible to watch and extremely frustrating!

I'm concerned, yet again mind you, for Bryce Gibbs that he gets a hard tag and then becomes quite ineffective. Young Patrick Cripps seems to be able to really work hard inside and wok his way through.

Whilst our bottom end players have been giving effort of recent times, when they don't or our team as a collective if 'off', we get caught our with limited resources in the midfield and talent pool.

Kreuzer looked really lame and reckon he just was a tad off in movement and mind.

Phillips Id like back in, but am a little hesitant in leaving Gorringe out. Can we play them both with Kreuzer and Casboult, with Everitt and White out....or does that limit our flexibility?

Gibbs had it 27 times in a midfield that GOT NO SERVICE from the ruckman.

He did fumble a bit and shanked a couple. Other than that he was far from our worst.

Gibbs had it 27 times in a midfield that GOT NO SERVICE from the ruckman.

He did fumble a bit and shanked a couple. Other than that he was far from our worst.

By far the worst thing about the game was that obnoxious line by line deconstruction of the saints theme song after every goal.......felt like throwing up

Gibbs spent too much time trying to knock Steven over.  The coach may have instructed Gibbs and others to target Steven but it would have been more effective if they had smashed him when he had the ball.

Maybe the coach figured we couldnt catch him so slowing him up when he didnt have the ball was the way to go.....I'd prefer if a skilled player like Gibbs stuck to doing what he does best by being creative and leave the
Steven Baker routine to less talented players...

I just like the fact that we are talking about this thuggery in our team.
Finally we might have a little mongrel and unsociable football in us.

It is a very Hawthorn-like tactic to target one opposition player.  While it's good to see us dishing it out rather than being the submissive recipients, I would prefer to see us going harder when the ball is in play rather than when it's in the umpire's hands.

The 3-peat era Lions were skilled practitioners of this tactic.

I just like the fact that we are talking about this thuggery in our team.
Finally we might have a little mongrel and unsociable football in us.

Yeah I know he touched it 27 times. Never said he was our worst.

His impact was low IMO.

Fairly accurate assessment. Nothing new though - most of Gibbs' career has been too much as a low impact accumulator. The stats sheet has been his best friend, not to mention the fanboys coming up with ridiculous excuses for his shortcomings. Like, his game was affected because he spent too much time knocking Stevens over, when this happened only once and in the second half (of course, if anyone can come up with evidence that he spent the whole game doing this, I'm all ears). And his dinky little turnover kick - sideways to a contest that missed the target - was Byrne's fault, not Bryce's (he was, apparently, pushing the envelope).