Carlton Supporters Club

He's already thrown them under the bus publicly, then 30s later encouraged them to fight some more!

How do the dumb fecks keep believing him, he keeps telling them he'll march besides them, and they cheer but he disappears?

I don’t like this type of “both sides” argument. There’s a boulder on 1 side and pebble on the other: there’s a rock on both sides. Go back over the last couple of decades and compare responses to presidential elections and you won’t find much to support your both sides argument. Just 1 example: how would Trump and his supporters have behaved if the last election came down to 500 votes in 1 State? Let’s add these details: Biden’s brother’s the Governor of the State and supports Biden’s attempts to stop further counting of votes and a Democrat-dominated Supreme Court shuts down further counting.  There’d be civil war. Instead, Al Gore issued a gracious concession and as sitting Vice-President presided over the certification of George Dubya’s electoral college win as Pence did a couple of days ago. And he did so with a smile and good grace. Far from retaliating with a campaign of total opposition, many Democrats in Congress even supported Bush’s ill-advised war against Iraq.

With the greatest of respect Thry, that’s rubbish.

American politics has always been marked by the greatest respect of the constitution, the oath of office, and those who have held the offices of president and vice-president.  It’s only since the evil, bloated, delusional, psychopathic, failed reality TV personality lied his way to the presidency that things have changed.

The cry baby is the first POTUS to voluntarily decline to attend his successor’s inauguration.  That says it all!

The toys being thrown out of the cot by democrats for the last 4 years. 

Left wing nutters, right wing nutters. No difference except there are a lot more lefties.

Maybe he thinks the Democrats should have been okay with Trump seeking political help from other countries. Russia, Ukraine & China, quite the trifecta. And why did he act like the Siberian Candidate whenever Putin was concerned? Why has there been no response whatsoever to the biggest ever foreign intrusion into US Government systems? And I mean NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER. Why did Mnuchin break the law by refusing to show Congress Trump’s tax returns?

We really are in the theatre of the absurd now. You must be implying that Trump was a good and decent President who has been unfairly resisted by political opponents. But the guy is a criminal who is totally unfit to be President. His latest outrage, fomenting insurrection with a riot that killed 5 people, puts that beyond doubt. But that was merely the culmination of criminality, corruption, racism and bastardry that has been flagrantly displayed since the start of his presidency. Right from the start, he made it clear he would coddle white supremacists and right-wing nutters such as QAnon despite the FBI’s consistent warnings over the years that right-wing extremists were the biggest threat when it comes to domestic terrorism.

Your other implication is that this was always just partisan politics. Strange you haven’t bothered to deal with Trump’s Birther attack and Mitch McConnell’s Dr No impersonation, because I think you’ll find the GOP has been the party that has the problem with bipartisanship. But Trump isn’t just another GOP guy. He invaded the GOP like toxoplasmosis, taking control of it and its representatives. He taught them how to love Russia and the Klan. Fears that a malignant narcissist would do damage to the USA and by extension Australia took us all to a much different place than whether your typical Republican would start stupid wars or try yet again to show trickle down economics can work provided you give enough tax breaks to the rich.

Poor Hitler. Right from the start, he had enemies who were trying to bring him down. And that Winston Churchill always seemed to be at his throat.

@Thryleon‍  What do you mean by this, can you give me an example of what you refer to?

I have to admit that a mate came up with this.  Until recently, I thought it was a play on words, aurangz = orange, but Aurangzeb was real and was the bloke who led the downfall of the Mughal empire.

I doubt that is true, MBB. But the one thing I am sure of is that far right nutters are much, much more dangerous.

I doubt that is true, MBB. But the one thing I am sure of is that far right nutters are much, much more dangerous.

Disagree, the media just like to paint it that way.

Extreme right-wing groups and individuals have been in ASIO’s sights for many decades—while we have maintained continuous and dedicated resources to this area, extremists such as neo-Nazis represent a serious, increasing and evolving threat to security. The 2019 Christchurch attack continues to be drawn on for inspiration by right-wing extremists worldwide.

Disagree, the media just like to paint it that way.