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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by BluePhantom -
Quote from: madbluboy on
If he staged then he should be suspended. I would like the AFL to come out and say it was a free kick or he staged.
It looked soft compared to other hits but anything above the shoulders is high. It doesn't matter if the tackler is a 'good guy'.
Plus Williams probably got a finger to the face as the hand went past hence staying down and holding his face.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Baggers -
That's two games of the last three where we lost in a similar manner. That's a glaring issue. Maybe so many close wins prior papered over some cracks?

At half time my most dominant thought was just how wasteful we were. And how perplexing (to be kind) umpiring was sucking the wind out of our sails. Jason D (and others) summed up the umpiring rather nicely.

As Principal LODS noted, as did this little black duck, Vossy was most unimpressed with our lack of discipline. He refused to individualize as it was team discipline (defence), or the lack thereof, that he focussed on. The Pussycats were 'allowed' to be clinically efficient in front of goal (as were the Croweaters and GWS).

We're sixth on the ladder with an ordinary %. Good feedback. About where we belong. But we all know we're better than that... or are we? Perhaps after so many years in the wilderness we're (and players?) just happy to be in the eight? Not sure Vossy shares that contentment.

Some thoughts on individuals/specifics.
Baffled as to why a strong-bodied, hard, quick and close checking Cincotta is being left out of our defence. Williams brings dash and some impressive cameos, but his defensive work is below parr.
Young is way too one-dimensional and lacks intensity.
Delivery into the forward line is ordinary. Sixteen times (or thereabouts) we dumped the aggot on Charles' head - defenders love that. When we looked for other options we were more productive (efficient?), as an example when E Hollands (who often made very good position) was utilized, it bothered the defence and we hit the scoreboard... just not often enough ...utilizing other forward options. Lazy stuff to put the aggot on Charles' head and expect him to produce miracles. When we were, all too seldom, delivering the pill in front of a leading Charles or H, or Chugga, or Owies, or Elija or...., it often had a better outcome.
Small Durds just doesn't do enough.

Thank the gods for Crippa, Pitto, Walsh, Weiters, Acres, Chugga and H.


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Lods -
I don't normally give a lot of weight to umpire failings....I'd lose too many televisions if I did, but...
There has been a bit of noise around Carlton getting a good rub of the green so far this year.

There are lots of memes around from opposition supporters about preferential treatment for Carlton, and especially Cripps.

You'd like to think some of the 'odd' decisions yesterday weren't a bit of a square up.
But a few probably need a 'please explain'

The Cripps and Harry debacle standing the mark.
and
The 'inconclusive' score review of a mark on the line.
Unless there was other vision for the reviewer, the goal post obscured the important part of the play.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by dodge -
Weird game. I couldn't work out whether we were lucky to be within 4 goals for most of it, or unlucky that we weren't 4 goals in front.

Not much more to be added to general comments that have been made. For commentators to call out umpires, there's something wrong, but we can't control them,  so focus on the plenty of opportunities that we wasted.  There was a lot of good stuff in there as well...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Professer E on
Williams isn't in my best best 22 - doesn't defend anywhere near hard enough.  Great when he has the ball running down field, it's the other stuff.
Agree he was disappointing yesterday the media have accused him of staging for a  free where he appeared to be caught high and then that passage of play produced a important goal for Geelong.


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Lods -
We all know our defence is a bit decimated at the moment, but it was awful yesterday.

If Weitering is the general down there.... then yesterday was his Waterloo.
He held Hawkins well, but his troops failed all around him.

Young is so hesitant that on one of the few occasions he did attack the ball with some intensity to take a mark it stood out like a sore thumb.

Kemp hasn't progressed (gone backwards in fact) and as soon as McGovern and Saad are back he should go forward where his marking may be of benefit.

Newman looks a bit flat and at times frustrated. I suspect with regulars missing he's being required to do a bit extra.

Cowan is still finding his feet, but doesn't seem to have made a lot of progress, and will be playing mostly VFL.

Williams...bad outweighed the good.

Probably the most damning vision from yesterday was one of the last.

In what Fkn situation, when momentum was with us, is the only player close enough to put any pressure on Jeremy Cameron (the most dangerous opposition player).... Jaxon Binns. >:(