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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Acres started wellSo important to our fortunes.
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Acres started wellSo important to our fortunes.
I love Charlie as much as the next bloke but he's been in horrible form.Amazing what happens when he runs and jumps at pack/footy.
no its williamsHe wasn't on Daicos who waltzed in off the stoppage and goaled.
The footy media is suffering from a bout of puppy love after hearing Vossy's post game response to our Geelong loss. However, Vossy has since made it clear that he changed his assessment of the Geelong game within 48 hours.Our blokes ate pressure for breakfast last year (second half), we are struggling to cope this year.
We're playing some brilliant footy but only in bursts - perhaps it's not possible to maintain that intensity for a whole game. We could blow Collingwood away with a quarter of our best footy, or we could let them back into the game with some mediocre footy. They're not travelling well and De Goey out is a big loss for them. However, anything less than a four quarter effort from us will simply play them back into form.
According to Matty Kennedy, our players are hurting after the Geelong loss and know what's required to beat Collingwood. Let's hope they are switched on and get the job done.
Jack Silvagni gives an interesting insight into the build up to the game and the importance of the Peter Mac cause.Very emotional watching that, especially Doc.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/
And Weiters and Doc have their say too.
All very well-spoken and thoughtful young men!
Just in case you thought that 50m penalty against Harry & Crippa made no sense, get a load of this for an explanation :She talks about common sense, how about the umpire use some and think to himself: Hang on minute, Cripps is standing the mark but it should be Harry "Hey Harry, come back and stand on the mark please, Patrick clear off please". The umpire in that instance has to have the awareness that unintentionally, the wrong player is standing the mark and if he is so adamant to correct it, then farken correct it. Dont penalise the guy after he looks, sees his team mate standing then leaves to get out of the zone. Alternatively, let it slide and play on. Imbeciles (umpire, Football Boss and interviewer, not a brain between them).
https://www.afl.com.au/video/1119499/footy-feed-extra-kane-on-stand-rule-ball-movement-extra-time-texts?videoId=1119499&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1714368368001&tagNames=AppNewsFeed:Yes
It's the vibe !!!!
Not wrong...its a fair spray...I dont enjoy potting our players but he was very ordinary. Lets see how he responds.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-news-2021-zac-williams-one-of-the-laziest-footballers-says-jonathan-brown-contract-trade/news-story/da774d0f30b45bde60c5ffa312645c6d
Voss or Cook need to respond to that.Why hasn't Cincotta been playing in the 2s?
David King wants Williams dropped, not hard enough, poor decision making, being beaten too easily in contests by smaller bodied players ie Stengle and wants coach Voss to validate his call for better defense by making an example of Williams and dropping him to the VFL...not banishing but making a statement. He suggested Binns as a replacement but Im not seeing Binns as a defender at this stage.Browny was even more scathing than King.
Yet I wouldn't say the defensive problems are a function of our defence.Sometimes perfectly executed passes make it look like the defenders arent doing their job. Geel on Sat reminded me of the the Hawks during their premiership years with all those deadly left footers hitting targets in traffic at will.
I'd assert, many of the shortfalls come from the other end of the ground or perhaps the midfield. It's possibly being masked by some players having good tackling or 1%er stats, but the counts can be misleading, it's far more important to know where and when they collect those stats.
For example, how many times did a Tuohy or Guthrie type find themselves unattended just outside of goal range, and Cameron for that matter? How many times was Cameron unattended exiting our F50, the escape kick, then became a target a kick or two later inside our D50? There is next to nothing the defence can do about that, the problem starts further up the field and it's not about body type or size, it's about evening up the numbers and closing down space.
Many times the Handbaggers were actually forced by our defence to pause entering our D50, and yet they still ended up with a loose player as a target inside F50, that player comes from somewhere in the overlap created outside of the arc.
You cant be on 800k a year and turn the ball over like he did vs good teams like Geelong. As was pointed out by "Pinot"his efforts or lack of led to 3-4 goals being scored by Geelong and the attacking value he gives isnt worth his lack of defensive prowess. His disposal is way overrated imho and I wouldnt have him in my best 22 and he is very fortunate we are down on troops with injury and he doesnt have much competition for his spot.I hear you brother, I agree completely. Drafting him in the first place was a mistake (IMO), promised him a gig in the midfield which failed miserably. His deficiencies in defence get masked somewhat by the likes of Saad, Gov and even Doc when he played there. Right now, we have a defender shortage and he has to do a defensive job, he failed miserably on the weekend.
Stengle at 175cm/73kg outbodied Zac 183cm/84kg in the goal square for an easy mark and goal which was just garbage defense from our man imo...its very hard to hold your place in the backline as an attacking only player and your skillset and decision making has to be at the Nick Daicos level to get away with it and Zac is nowhere near that high bar.