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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by northernblue -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
According to coach Kingsley" its hard being Toby"...sometimes I agree he doesnt get calls go his way due to his previous reputation but he was undisciplined tonight and the incident with Boyd showed he had little duty of care imho and there was another I'm sure I saw with Kemp I think it was where he took a swing at him while contesting the ball falling to the ground.
Good to see both Cowan and Newman looking after Boyd too and letting Toby know he wasnt going to get away with his BS....
Hogan struck Young in the jaw as well and that should be looked at too.....credit to Young when Weitering got his corkie and couldnt run it was Young who got the job on Hogan and shut him down and showed some physicality which has been lacking in his game...
I too was impressed by Young’s physicality
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by shawny -
This performance reinforces that we are the real deal and if we play anywhere close to our best we will go very close this year.
Our lesser lights are now genuine contributors and our stars and there is now a few of them are match winners. Really believe if we have a decent run injury wise later in the year we may just add another cup in the cabinet at PP.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by pertz -
Was at the game. At around the 19.min mark of the 3rd qtr we were 20 points down and were flat as a tack. The Giants were in total control. The rest is history.
How did this happen?  Can anyone explain it to me?
With the injuries we have, it was enormous.
There is something cooking and it ain't the same crap as previous false dawns.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Analysis 2024
Last post by crashlander -
AFL 2024 Rd 5:   Carlton vs Adelaide
We were unlucky to lose, but we panicked for the first time this season. had we kept our nerve, we would have won.

Trends:
[1]   There were 12 voters this round, which isn't that bad considering.

[2]   The rating was a 7.22, which is an D+. A little harsh, perhaps, considering that we lost by 2 points in the last few seconds. But, we were expected to win and we should have, so people judged us accordingly.

[3]   14 players managed a mention this week, which is 2 down on last week. Everybody contributes when we win, which wasn't quite how it worked out this time.

[4]   The average vote this week was 24. The first time below 30 for the year and indicative of how down we were this round.

[5]   3 players managed 100 votes or more this week. Even so, only one performance stood out.

[6]   Sam Walsh managed 460 votes to be BOG this week. This was a Judd-like performance if there ever was one. Cripps and Acres came in at 2nd and 3rd, and neither of them had great games.

[7]   One player managed votes from everyone this week. This is a rarity.  But Walsh's game stood out. Nobody else's did.

[8]   None of our youngsters stood out this week, which is disappointing.

[9]   Only Walsh stood out. We struggled over the rest of the field.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam  460
Acres, Blake  114
Cripps, Patrick  102
Curnow, Charles  96
Kennedy, Matthew 63
Kemp, Brodie  54
Hewett, George  48
McKay, Harrison  36
William, Zac  33
Boyd, Jordan 30
de Koning, Tom 18
Fantasia, Orazio 12
Newman, Nicholas 9
Pittonet, Marc 6

Progressive Votes:
Patrick Cripps 1074
Harry McKay 890
Tom de Koning 581
George Hewett  575
Charlie Curnow 476
Sam Walsh 460
Mitch McGovern 434
Jacob Weitering 414
Adam Saad  310
Blake Acres  244
Adam Cerra 231
Brodie Kemp 197
Nic Newman 105
Matthew Kennedy 89
Jordan Boyd 89
Zac Williams 85
Lachie Fogarty 68
Matthew Cottrell 65
Jack Carroll 64
Elijah Hollands 59
Lewis Young 55
Matthew Owies 16
David Cuningham 13
Orazio Fantasia 12
Marc Pittonet 6
Ollie Hollands 6
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by LP -
You'll notice in the Voss post match that even the media is still trying to beat up the two rucks bullsh1zen, it even felt like some were barracking for us to be run over to win points in the two rucks debate.

But Voss is the genuine article, he told the media when prompted there isn't such a thing as being "Locked In" to one configuration, at least we know the coach isn't letting the bullsh1zen burn his mindset. It always was and always will be horses for courses, it's the only sane option.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by Blue Moon -
The move of Curnow back meant that the rest of the backline were able to man up which stopped GWS being able to pick us off as they came forward. Having two rucks means that Cripps and Kennedy can concentrate on being midfielders. TDK gives us a third tall forward which limits the effectiveness of the opposition dropping an extra tall down back on Charlie and Harry. The problem with the way GWS play is that while they have the ball they are good but they do an awful lot of running so when the game turns they can look very tired our backline continues to be destabilised through injury. Could be Cincotta's turn next week. It is clear we have an extra gear that other sides may not have.
I thought we were in trouble in that third quarter but this Carlton side does not appear to give up.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
According to coach Kingsley" its hard being Toby"...sometimes I agree he doesnt get calls go his way due to his previous reputation but he was undisciplined tonight and the incident with Boyd showed he had little duty of care imho and there was another I'm sure I saw with Kemp I think it was where he took a swing at him while contesting the ball falling to the ground.
Good to see both Cowan and Newman looking after Boyd too and letting Toby know he wasnt going to get away with his BS....
Hogan struck Young in the jaw as well and that should be looked at too.....credit to Young when Weitering got his corkie and couldnt run it was Young who got the job on Hogan and shut him down and showed some physicality which has been lacking in his game...

Young showed a nice line of niggle that I haven’t seen before. 

I think that he was below his best today and, like all of our defenders, was unsettled when Williams was subbed out.  Like his teammates, he did step up when Weiters and Newey were hampered by injury.

Boyd is always the defender I choose to omit but I think I’m going to have to re-think that.  His defensive work today was excellent, particularly when he was switched to Greene, and his ball use was typically good.

Greene reminds me of a pit bull - no matter how much the owner says “he’s friendly”, you’re still wary of getting bitten.  He’s lucky Boydy got straight up and should only cop a week.

The MRO won’t consider Hogan’s past offences but he should go back to the punch to the jaw that concussed Sam Rowe. Young’s reaction suggested heavier impact than it probably was.  I’d give him a week but he’ll probably get a fine.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by crashlander -
[1] This was one of marc Pittonet's greatest games. He didn't just give his opponents a bath, but he had 7 clearances and 13 contested possessions.
[2] Tom de Koning was excellent, but his best work was up forward with 3 goals. His snap on the right foot was a classic!

I think there is a spot for both of them, especially if we get the ball out of the middle. Very few teams can handle 3 marking options. God knows we struggle.

[3] I don't remember how many tackles we had in the first half, but we were well behind. The tackles pressure lifted enormously just before half time. We still ended up with only 52 to their 68, but ours in the second half were a lot more effective. It made a difference.

[4] We had more than 30 more contested possessions than GWS did. We owned the contested ball after half time. It was lovely to see.

[5] We managed to win with little output from Jacob Weitering, even thought he was quite good early. The other defenders stood up. I liked Cowan's game. Boyd was ordinary early, but stepped up, as was Lewis Young.
Toby Greene had 18 disposals, but kicked only a point or two, and had very little impact on the game. His opponent, on the other hand, had a significant impact.

[6] Ollie Hollands had his best game for the year. Not yet to the form he was in last year, perhaps but he did important things at important times.
Elijah was quieter, but his goals were a good reward.

[7] Cripps was super-human today, but Walsh wasn't far behind. For that matter, Hewett and Kennedy had excellent games.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: Thryleon on
So, in the third term leak aliir was off for a substantial period and that's when we did our damage. 

Orazio played his best game in navy.  Might not have troubled the stats sheet but his leadership (constant direction and chatter) as well as work rate (particularly during our surge) was good.  He's probably first cab out when we get motlop back but don't underestimate his value.  He linked up well a couple of times and when we were blazing away he lowered his eyes and hit up targets a couple of times leading to scores.  He's not winning games himself but the usual suspects are going to perform when the Indians like Boyd, fantasia, durdin cotters, acres do the basics well and just keep giving the main events of cripps, McKay, curnow, Walsh, etc the impetus to impose themselves without having to worry about the others.

Also big kudos to voss.  Gws I think kicked 5 in a row in the second term and they made the call to drop curnow back when our defense was all at sea.  He didn't exactly do much but take one steadying mark, but it turned the game into an arm wrestle again and killed thr gws momentum.  We scored the next goal and he went forward again.  It just basically made them second guess what to do and they lost momentum.

Psychologically this was extremely important particularly as he was having a bit of an off day to that point.  A lot of fans around me couldn't work out why he decided to do it, but I thought it's not a bad idea.  It also has the effect of opening up our forward line and pushing a ruck forward and letting Charlie have a gallop.

Astute observations Thry.

I’m not entirely sure that Vossy sent Charlie back.  Charlie has explained previously that he now has Silvagni’s role of plugging holes in defence and it’s up to him when that happens. 

If the move was Charlie’s initiative, Vossy still deserves credit for giving him the licence and responsibility to do so.