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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 VFL Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Frankston at Frankston
Quote from: LP on
Not sure how long since you've been there, but they cleaned it up a bit in recent years. Buckenara is the GM, and he's improved facilities and services significantly. Even the outer side can bar isn't the sea of ugliness it used to be! ;D

Knocking back cans on the hill while watching the local footy... i’m getting emotional just thinking about it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 2: Post Game Prattle: Carlton vs Gold Coast
Quote from: RiverRat on
Absolutely spot on. 

Levi in the ruck and Weiters to FF was like robbing Peter to crucify Paul.

Game was lost as soon as the match committee decided not to play an opponent who could at least reach high enough to provide a minor inconvenience to a 209 cm ruckman.

The suns waltzed out of the stoppages and penetrated our defence without the pressure any defence needs to have a chance.

Further to Lods's comment on Jones... it isn't that he is too loose... he is showing horrendous judgment of when to go at the ball and when to defend his opponent. He is getting it completely wrong, and has had his pants pulled down in his last 3 games.

That element of judgment is why he ended up on the scrap heap originally... if he keeps going like this he will be back there again pretty quick.

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The Sports Desk / Re: Smith's Crew in SA
Quote from: Lods on
We're a funny lot
With these type of issues there is always that an initial condemnation...as I said before it's part of our make-up to roast our own if we think they deserve it.
We hold them to a higher standard
But there is also a side of us that says...OK that's enough, they've been punished sufficiently.
I reckon we're just about to enter that phase and it wouldn't surprise in the next few days to see a shift in tone, at least amongst the public...not so sure about sponsors etc as they'll be more concerned about their brand

Smith’s press conference - that’ll do I reckon.



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The Sports Desk / Re: Smith's Crew in SA
That might be correct Jimbo - ultimately I don’t think Smith is a bad egg... his punishment is massive, if he cops it on the chin he will be back in 12 months.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 2: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Gold Coast
Quote from: Thryleon on
I spotted Kreuzer at the local woollies.   He had a chat to one of the staff in fresh produce and was asked how it's going and he said ok.   The staff member asked him if he'd be up and about next week and his answer was affirmative.

Whilst I can appreciate he isn't going to come out and say no, he didn't have to be definitive.

It wasn’t Cliff from Clematis by any chance?
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The Sports Desk / Re: Smith's Crew in SA
Good question Flyboy.

For Smith I think it will be something like:

- stripped of captaincy
- stand down without pay for 6 mths... don’t play IPL if possible.
- Smith fronts the media in Australia, cops everything on the chin and apologises.

Everyone makes mistakes, other cricketers have done worse (e.g rebel tours of Sth Africa in the 80’s) and been able to play again.



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The Sports Desk / Re: Smith's Crew in SA
I’d love to know who came up with bright idea to send Bancroft and Smith into that press conference... and who knew what Smith was going to say in advance.

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The Sports Desk / Re: Smith's Crew in SA
Quote from: Jack Burton on
Why severely punish Australians for ball-tampering when those from other sides (including Captains du Plessis and Atherton) have only got wet lettuce leaf punishments? I think this incident is exposing a deep underlying dislike of Smith (and Warner), why should they be treated differently to others that have committed the same offense previously?

It’s the bit where they cooked up the idea and made/allowed a junior player to do it that gets them in big trouble.

The actual ball tampering bit has it’s own punishment within ICC rules... whatever that is will apply to Bancroft.

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The Sports Desk / Re: Smith's Crew in SA
Quote from: Sexybronco on
Can't see how Smith can captain the team for the rest of this game let alone the remaining test, send all those involved home wipe the slate clean and start again. If he dint know what was going then he's not in control anyway so he needs to go, if he did know then enough said and he has admitted as much. If we don't take a stance now we will forever be the laughing stock of world cricket.

It’s just that hard to believe... you sort of think there has to be a reason to explain it!

Otherwise he is a complete idiot.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Smith's Crew in SA
The press conference is staggering.

How a junior player ends up being the one to tamper with the ball - at what point does someone say “hang on, this is a bad idea”?

One thought that I had is that Smith might not have known about it... hence the talk of the leadership group... and he as the captain is taking the fall for others (e.g Warner)... who would get suspended.

But it is just incredibly stupid from all of them.