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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
Whatever you think of the Williams 'incident', one way or another the AFL got it wrong.

There was no free kick paid at the time......so either it deserved a free kick or it didn't.
If it deserved a free kick, it didn't get one, so it was wrong. Umpires were wrong.
If it DIDN'T deserve a free kick, then how can Henry be fined for it? Tribunal are wrong.

Take it whichever way you like, but there is no scenario where everyone was right, so someone was wrong.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Blue Moon -
Let's be sure we ignore that against GWS Williams was subbed out for a knock on his achilles. That might have affected his performance. But King and the rest don't want to admit they made a mistake. Just as the AFL won't admit a mistake on the McKay 50 meters. He stood up and checked out his sore leg, he didn't stand the mark.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
David King wants Williams dropped, not hard enough, poor decision making, being beaten too easily in contests by smaller bodied players ie Stengle and wants coach Voss to validate his call for better defense by making an example of Williams and dropping him to the VFL...not banishing but making a statement. He suggested Binns as a replacement but Im not seeing Binns as a defender at this stage.
Browny was even more scathing than King.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
David King wants Williams dropped, not hard enough, poor decision making, being beaten too easily in contests by smaller bodied players ie Stengle and wants coach Voss to validate his call for better defense by making an example of Williams and dropping him to the VFL...not banishing but making a statement. He suggested Binns as a replacement but Im not seeing Binns as a defender at this stage.

Not a good time (player availability wise) to try and make an example of someone....especially given our month of games.

I reckon Vossy definitely would've highlighted what Williams did wrong, but done so behind closed doors. I doubt we'll see another one of them in a hurry.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -

David King wants Williams dropped, not hard enough, poor decision making, being beaten too easily in contests by smaller bodied players ie Stengle and wants coach Voss to validate his call for better defense by making an example of Williams and dropping him to the VFL...not banishing but making a statement. He suggested Binns as a replacement but Im not seeing Binns as a defender at this stage.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by LordLucifer -
Quote from: madbluboy on
He was terrible. Defence wins premierships and he can't defend. With Saad and McGovern we can afford to have him there for his rebound but not now.

Ironically we played better when he went off against the Giants.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/blues-star-accused-of-staging-as-cats-gun-fined/ar-AA1nPWpr?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=5eae28a9074d4f18e7dfd0319178ceee&ei=29
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: kruddler on
If you have access to a crystal ball that allows us to predict anything other than the now, then let me know. ;)

Otherwise, we can only use previous trends and statistics to give our best guess on what will happen.

For the record i was being a bit broad with my 'full side' comments. I was more referring to a normal injury list of a handful of people.....rather than the umpteen we have now.

The problem is that being so adamant that a current trend is the basis for future outcomes is just illogical.
It may work out as predicted, it may not.
The game we follow is so fluid, so unpredictable, that the guy we criticise today is sometimes the champion of tomorrow.
We see it often when the first half of a player's season is compared to the second half.
In that respect things like statistics can be a 'brake' on our thinking.
We adopt a position based on stats and form at the time and refuse to move until it becomes so obvious that maybe things weren't so clear cut.

I have no idea what's going to happen, especially with the ruck situation.
Injuries, loss of form and other variables make it impossible to predict.
But I do keep an open mind, and try not to make definitive predictions.
If you do that with AFL you're probably going to be wrong as often as you're right.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Lods on
There’s a bit of a contradiction in your post. A lot of it is about the ‘future’(when it rains, when players return from injury) and what might happen, yet the judgements made on the two-ruck situation were made in the ‘present of 2023’ when there were aspects of both players not up to scratch, and both struggled a bit with injury at stages during the season.
Judging in the present is also one of the issues with statistics. They are a measure of the past, (even last weekend’s statistics). A string of good games by a player and those early season statistics can alter dramatically.

We don’t know what will happen in the games to come and a whole lot of variables will come into play. The team we’re playing at ‘present’ may be completely different to the side that takes the field at the end of the year. We may get players back… and/or (perish the thought) we may lose important players. There’s not a lot of point predicting a line-up with a full side to choose from, because that’s a pretty unlikely scenario.

If we do have a full side to choose from, they might as well just give us the cup.

If you have access to a crystal ball that allows us to predict anything other than the now, then let me know. ;)

Otherwise, we can only use previous trends and statistics to give our best guess on what will happen.

For the record i was being a bit broad with my 'full side' comments. I was more referring to a normal injury list of a handful of people.....rather than the umpteen we have now.