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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
Yep...thats the we are done for 2021 call and lets order the timber for the gallows and find ourselves a scape goat.
I literally said only a few hours ago that this was my biggest fear.
We start jumping at shadows and change tact for the rest of the year signalling defeat.

We can still finish 9th without too much trouble, technically 8th or higher mathematically, so why are we doing this now?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
Yes, the reactions are over the top bizarre at the moment.

I understand the frustrations, but I can't see any logic in the suggested remedy as it's coming across as a burn the house down approach!

Too many seem to be revelling in the Flubbo and Jab Snr smugness, it makes me very uncomfortable as a Carlton fan that many of my compatriots might be so fickle and fans and so susceptible to external suggestions.

Oddly, when we are on I think we are now far far better to watch than we have been for many years. The 4-Qtr problem remains, but get the balance right and we'll win the close ones, and be 8 from 4 instead of 4 from 8.

For several years we couldn't score, we blamed the players, we blamed the coach. The players are still there and can now score, regardless of the kicking accuracy we generate shots that we couldn't previous and the players are fundamentally the same crew.

Agree.

People are being so black and white they should go follow the pies.

People are basically complaining that we are not finals bound
People fail to realise that while that is true, we are no longer on the bottom of the ladder.

Improvement has been obvious. Yes, its slower than we all want, but the 'logic' of nuking the place to start again hasn't worked the last 6 times, but its SURE to work this time....its laughable.
If for no other reason than to try something different for the first time in 20 years, lets stick with the coach and give him what he needs....players, assistants....whatever.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
Time for a change! That's about as bad as it gets today.

As bad as it gets??

Give me a spell.

I posted elsewhere in Teagues 39 games as coach, he's lost by 30 or more points......twice.....and one of them was 31 points.
In Boltons last 39 games as coach, he lost by more than 30 points.......18 times. Including by over 100 points 3 times.

As bad as it gets......short memories by way too many on here.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
True to form you avoid answering, find a loophole in someones post that dares to question you and then when you have no comeback you get personal. I did try very hard not to reply to you but your week to week rolling BS know it all just got the better of me.

I won’t do it again. 🤐

Your post had 1 question mark, thus 1 question.
I highlighted that, and answered it.

What do you think i am trying to avoid? Teaching you english? Yes, but here we are....

Again, your comprehension skills need some work.

You wanna ask a question of me, use one of those curly things with a little circle at the bottom of it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
We lost to Collingwood - Aren’t they 3rd last and also lost to a VFL version of west coast. Is that team they fielded today a top side?  Please.

How many times do i need to talk about your inability to comprehend English before you actually learn to read what i write?

Prediction is based on nothing but exposed form.
We lose to top 8 sides.
We beat sides outside the 8......but lose 1 we shouldn't.

That gets you to 11-11.
That was the collingwood game you speak of.

Keep up mate.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
I'm sorry I'm not buying what you're selling.  Elapsed form says the chances of us beating anybody are very slim.   To get to 11 wins we need to get 7 from 11.  I applaud your fanatical optimism,  but reality says that prediction is wildly optimistic and utterly unrealistic. 
Prediction is based on nothing but exposed form.
We lose to top 8 sides.
We beat sides outside the 8......but lose 1 we shouldn't.

That gets you to 11-11.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
Kruddler I know you've watched our boys closely for a long time. Overall, we've had similar views.

I'd be keen to hear how you expect us to go post-bye against generally lower ranked teams.
I've kinda talked about it a bit just now in this thread....
https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=5377.msg337029

I expect to go well.

As long as we don't completely change tact and say this season is a right off and say, drop Murphy for the rest of the year and play LOB for 'development' then i think we should fall close to, but just outside the 8......basically as expected at the start of the year.

My biggest worry at this point is that with the natives being restless, our club will go into its usual self destruct mode and everything goes out the window. If we keep doing what we are doing, yes i know how that sounds, then by the end of the year we will be a confident team who has won more than they've lost in the second half of the year and are looking forward to continuing that into 2022.

I'm looking forward to seeing Charlie and Harry in the same side.
I'm looking forward to seeing how much TDK improves being fully fit.
I'm looking forward to seeing Dow growing each week to a point where he belongs.
I'm looking forward to seeing a team that we can be proud of.

- It starts with GWS in 2 weeks time. Plenty of scouting time. Plenty of reevaluation time and some hard truths. If we don't come out snarling in that one, THEN you should be worried.
- Then we are scheduled to play Crows in Melbourne. Certainly winnable, i expect to win.
- Dockers in WA looking for revenge, but we seem to play well against them.
Suddenly we've got 3 in a row.
- Tough one against the Cats follows. Loss.
- Then the run we've been waiting for. Pies, Kangas, Saints, Suns.......4 winnable games.
At this stage, we could very easily have won  7 from our last 8 games and the Teague Train is back on track. However, i do expect us to lose one of those games and be 6 from 8.
- Finish with Port and Giants again, call it 1-1.
End result is 11-11 finish.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: In Game Anxiety: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs. West Coast
What a coincidence, we have 10+ on the injury list! ;)

Name them. Who.are the ten players that change this result. Wake up! Save yourself from years of heart ache.
I already showed a list of 7 or so before.

But...it was a joke. See the ;)

FYI, i'm trying to save myself years of heartache.
If i joined in with all of you, we'd sack Teague and be destined for another rebuild.
OR
I could see how far we've come and be a little patient realising that we are hamstrung with what we can do at the MC meetings at the moment.