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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: Mantis on
I lived in a house of serious domestic violence for 22 years. I would love to tell people what I experienced but some might not want to hear the reality of what takes place. How it has a long term effect on children. I am happy to tell the story if people want to hear it first hand. How it was resolved after a further 25 years later.

My heart goes out to you, Green Stick. Having worked in this area, and experienced it first hand as well, and although it sounds like an exaggeration... it's something of a holocaust what goes on behind closed doors in too many family homes. Violence and abuse (physical, psychological & sexual) are far more prevalent that many folk may realise.

Further to what the Spotted One noted about mental illness, I'd add drugs, alcohol and other destructive addictions. Not to mention the role that fundamental religions play in all manner of abuses as well. And contrary to what many folks believe, these abuses sweep across all socio-economic groups, not confined to lower socio-economic groups.

And bear in mind that what is reported is but the tip of the iceberg. Non-reporting and fear of reporting is a pandemic.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Ok Ill call a spade a spade and shoot Bambi, Walsh either fell asleep or had the wrong mindset at that stoppage. With the scores level and close to their goal, a defensive mindset had to be first and foremost. We let that happen too many times on the night, the last one was costly.
Nick Daicos is quick and should have had a full time tagger or a rotating group of players on him . I don't expect my star mid to tag him..Neale, Petracca, etc Daicos himself don't tag or mind a man.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by blueboys_1 -
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Ok Ill call a spade a spade and shoot Bambi, Walsh either fell asleep or had the wrong mindset at that stoppage. With the scores level and close to their goal, a defensive mindset had to be first and foremost. We let that happen too many times on the night, the last one was costly.

x2.

Love Walsh but his man and it cost us. Would love to be a fly on the wall when the match is reviewed internally.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Baggers -
I confess to being absolutely baffled when it comes to 'holding the man,' 'dropping the ball,' 'incorrect disposal' and 'holding the ball' unless blatantly obvious. Totally confused. It used to be pretty clear cut, but now it seems there are tolerable grey areas for all these which only creates further confusion in an already difficult to adjudicate game. But with these tolerated grey areas you end up with too much individual umpire interpretation. Some times you can watch one game, then another, and swear there were different rules for each! Result? Inconsistency... the continual complaint from supporters.

Just one example: There was a time where if you took possession of the aggot and tackled, and the ball was dislodged - automatic free kick against... regardless.

The AFL needs, on Monday mornings, to explain contentious frees and non-frees to educate us so we can better understand how the game is adjudicated.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Thryleon on
Those frees were garbage.  He gave them away...


Let me kill that argument slightly.

Elliott engages his opponent to push off and create separation. They grab each other. Ump sees it pays a free kick. Watch every single duel and tell me that they aren't all identical.  I watched Rhys Stanley do similar to Max gawn (and arguably worse) and it was play on. 

The subjective nature here is what the problem is.  They ping Williams twice and then don't pay another free like it until mason Cox gets a bit of the same.

That equated to about 3 goals.  There was also the cripps handball paid holding the ball and then the jack crisp "drop" handball that was paid play on.

These things are a frequent occurrence, and I don't really debate the action I debate the consistency.   It's a free in our defensive 50 but you won't find a similar free for essentially the same action in our forward 50.  Why? 

The blocks that occur that take walsh off daicos and at other times cowan off Elliott.

They're not illegal.   Their blokes get on the bike and run around others who are there to hold illegally but no one cares about those holds. 
He put his arms around him, once you do that youre gone.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Thryleon on
who Melbourne or Geelong?  Had Cameron kicked like last week Geelong would have won.


What Melbourne didn't do is attack the ball carrier leaving players free in defensive 50.  They worked backwards to cover options which artificially creates panic and makes players kick longer to a contest.

We didn't change this against Geelong until it was far too late, and paid dearly for it.
Lever and May will just gobble up our bombs into the fwd line.