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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
I probably want to see a bit more of TDK forward before I'm sold on him as a forward and how many times it works and we win games. I like it as an option though  that the coach can go to depending on the opposition and state of the game to stretch other teams and get an edge .

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Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: Missing Members - 2024
Last post by 31Tommys_barber -
I miss PaulP and I hope he's OK, and then there's a swag of posters like Mav, Raydan, LanceRomance, Tommy'sBarber, bmaurizio, Amers, capcom, c4e, chalkybill, flyboy, Jack Burton, and many others who no longer post or only occasionally post.

I suspect that social media is attracting more people away from discussion groups across the board, and footy groups in general and this place in particular are feeling the squeeze.

Social media is faster with latest news, be it fair dinkum or fake, bit there's really not much scope for the discussions that make this place interesting, informative and, at times, infuriating.

The bright side is that we seem to hardly attract any bots now  ::)
It’s nice to be missed but nothing nefarious about lack of posts from me, can’t speak for the others but haven’t moved on to other sites or different media (too old to understand how to do that). I still read the posts from the older guys as they have the wisdom and have been through the same eras as me from 1958 to now. I now spend about two thirds of my time in WA helping out with grandkids and over here if you don’t follow the locals you are in a vacuum for other footy news. I’m sure WA surfer would agree that you guys are our lifeline to what’s happening and I thankyou for that.
I just haven’t posted much as we are going alright which is fantastic but grumpy old buggers like me need to whinge sometimes! 😀☹️
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by kruddler -
Full agree...the two specialist rucks playing works best with Pitto doing the grunt work early especially vs the opposition meathead type rucks like Briggs and then when they tire TDK can jump all over them later in the game. Harry and Charlie often appear on the wings or even half back to take a mark and drag their opponent up the ground which then leaves the other one alone with his opponent and our two dont lose too many of those contests if we can get the ball down to them quickly.

Yep, you are both right.

However i'll take issue with 1 point. TDK is no longer a specialist ruck. He can be a genuine forward option now, which was something that had been lacking previously.
He was always capable of taking the odd mark and kicking the odd goal, but he is doing that more consistently now and showing the small forwards how to crumb the ball as well. He's become a much more all-rounded player.

Pitto as #1 ruck plays to his strengths.
TDK as #2 ruck/forward plays to his strengths.

It might be a bit different when we play on a windy/wet deck in the middle of winter, but in ideal conditions of Marvel, it works.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
When we play 2 rucks, Pitto needs to spend most of his time on the ball (especially early in the game) to allow TDK to provide relief when the opposition ruckman tires (especially late in games), which allows for Pitto to be subbed out if there are no injuries. 

This means that one of the 3 tall forwards needs to consistently present on the wing (or in the midfield) to provide marking power; create space in the front half; and to run forward without being closely marked.  They all have sufficient mobility to perform this role.
Full agree...the two specialist rucks playing works best with Pitto doing the grunt work early especially vs the opposition meathead type rucks like Briggs and then when they tire TDK can jump all over them later in the game. Harry and Charlie often appear on the wings or even half back to take a mark and drag their opponent up the ground which then leaves the other one alone with his opponent and our two dont lose too many of those contests if we can get the ball down to them quickly.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG
Last post by pinot -
Pinot....not sure they'll risk Cerra....only been a week and a bit since the hamstring strain even though it was a mild one. Love him back but the midfield can do this one without him IMO. Cincotta is the likely one in for Williams if he doesn't come up.

Didn't watch the VFL game but Moir amongst the goals. Having TDK forward probably makes it a bit harder for Moir given he's more of a mid-size/3rd tall.

Yeah Moir had a good game yesterday. Three classy goals from all sorts of angles and 7 tackles.

Bought alot of aggression to his game yesterday. Another 2-3 games like that and will be in the mix.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by RiverRat -
We recognise the advantages of one ruck in terms of the extra run.
On the weekend we saw the advantages of two rucks.
Will either option work every week?
I doubt it will.
Two rucks may not even work next week.
One thing we can be sure of is, that having seen how Pittonet and TDK operated on the weekend, opposition clubs will devote a bit of time as to how they combat that combination.


When we play 2 rucks, Pitto needs to spend most of his time on the ball (especially early in the game) to allow TDK to provide relief when the opposition ruckman tires (especially late in games), which allows for Pitto to be subbed out if there are no injuries. 

This means that one of the 3 tall forwards needs to consistently present on the wing (or in the midfield) to provide marking power; create space in the front half; and to run forward without being closely marked.  They all have sufficient mobility to perform this role.