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Title: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: crashlander on April 03, 2014, 08:40:16 pm
VFL starts this weekend and the Blues are up against the team that poached 4 players from us. Very interesting to see how things turn out.

Northern Blues vs. Williamstown   
Sunday, April 6th
Visy Park at 2:00pm

Northern Blues

B:   McInnes   Watson   Bootsma
HB:   Docherty   Giles   Armfield
C:   Scotland   Carrazzo   Lucas
HF:   McLean   White   Cachia
F:   B. Johnson   Casboult   Ellard
R:   Wood   Bell   Graham
Int:   Wilkinson   Reynolds   Sheehan   Totevski   Wilson   Cripps     Holman   Temay   Dirago     Coulson   Callaway*   T. Thomas
    Anthony      


Williamstown

B   McCallum   Faulks   Kulikowski
HB   Johnstone   Mangan   Masters
C   Davies   Jolley   Lockwood
HF   Wheeler   Clouston   Gibbons*
F   Sikora   Ferguson   Banner
R   Meese   Carr   Marcon
Int   Tighe   Dorgan   Fahey   McConnon   Charleston   Owen   Sing   Anastasio   Lambert

Our team is a little unsettled as yet, as the interchange players for the seniors are all named. However, it is looking as strong as it can get. Willi have named Lambert, our reigning B & F on their bench.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: MilkIt on April 03, 2014, 08:44:02 pm
Very interested in Docherty, Giles and Cripps.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: crashlander on April 03, 2014, 08:44:34 pm
Northern Blues vs. Williamstown   
Sunday, April 06
Visy Park at 11:00am

Northern Blues

B:   Grimes   Dirago   Posar
HB:   T. Thomas   M. Gleeson   Sheehan
C:   J. Gleeson   Wilkinson   Temay
HF:   Wilson   Walton   Reynolds
F:   Cripps   Holman   Dorman
R:   Coulson   Taglieri   Totevski
Int:   Watson   Dufficy   Cattapan
    Soncin   Byrne   McDonald
    Murray   Emley   Tardio
    Couch   Johnston   Bolger


Williamstown

B   Bench   Fahey   Richmond
HB   Currie   Hoghton   Sing
C   Dorgan   Hetherington   Bugeja
HF   Wyatt   Deery   McConnon
F   Miller   Anastasio   Nastasi
R   Giles   Charleston   Woods
Int   Bese   Mead   McKenzie
   Bewley   Carrington   Adams
   Greiser   Gallucci   Hayes
   Walker   Lambert   Cashman
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: LP on April 03, 2014, 08:45:38 pm
Where is Armfield, he was supposed to be right to go two weeks back!
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: MilkIt on April 03, 2014, 08:49:19 pm
Is the second squad the development league?

Why on earth would you play Cripps and Holman there?
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: crashlander on April 03, 2014, 08:50:16 pm
Where is Armfield, he was supposed to be right to go two weeks back!
Named on the HBF for the senior NB's. Alongside Giles and Docherty.

We are a VERY young side.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: crashlander on April 03, 2014, 08:53:37 pm
Is the second squad the development league?

Why on earth would you play Cripps and Holman there?
Yes. The second squad is the development side.
I don't know if Cripps or Holman will play in it yet, but with the interchange guys from the seniors named, a number of the 'bench' players (who are also named in the development side) will play. Very few Preston guys appear to be playing. To get some in the side, a few Blues have to go down. Holman, Sheehan & co MAY play in the development side, but that won't be certain until game day, when the bench players are finalized.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: MilkIt on April 03, 2014, 09:00:55 pm
Is the second squad the development league?

Why on earth would you play Cripps and Holman there?
Yes. The second squad is the development side.
I don't know if Cripps or Holman will play in it yet, but with the interchange guys from the seniors named, a number of the 'bench' players (who are also named in the development side) will play. Very few Preston guys appear to be playing. To get some in the side, a few Blues have to go down. Holman, Sheehan & co MAY play in the development side, but that won't be certain until game day, when the bench players are finalized.

I wouldn't have thought any of the senior squad would play in the 2s because they play before the AFL game. Surely you don't risk your 3 EMGs in case they have to be late inclusions later that night. Why bother naming them unless the seniors play before the VFL?

So no Bell, White, Ellard, McLean, Carrazzo, Lucas, Casboult. You would think at least Holman and Cripps will play at 2:00pm.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Sexybronco on April 03, 2014, 09:32:01 pm
FMD, that Norther Blues side would have been our senior team in  2005.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Baggers on April 03, 2014, 09:42:16 pm
All a bit confusing re selection.

I'm guessing that we're wanting Cripps & co to learn some very basics so hence their dev league selection, if this is in fact true.

Anyone else heading to Princes Park on Sunday? I'm looking forward to attending this game and seeing, first hand, some of our newbies.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cookie2 on April 03, 2014, 09:46:25 pm
FMD, that Norther Blues side would have been our senior team in  2005.

Certainly looks like our reserves for sure.  ;)
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Juddkreuzer on April 04, 2014, 12:58:44 am
Andy Mackay says Levi's a starter in the seniors so there's one change I guess.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Professer E on April 04, 2014, 09:44:42 am
Ironic how Collins has a swipe at Preston regarding players then has the chutzpah to put up a team in the first round that has ex-Preston players in it. 

18 AFL clubs had a chance to review the likes of Lambert and Marcon... it obviously wasn't just Carlton that didn't see enough to make the commitment. 
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: MilkIt on April 04, 2014, 07:11:41 pm
Andy Mackay says Levi's a starter in the seniors so there's one change I guess.

Odd. He's been named as EMG. Would've thought he be in for backup ruck duties.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: townsendcalling on April 06, 2014, 12:19:19 pm
Ciaran Byrne, one of our international recruits, is cutting loose in the Development Team match.  3 goals at half time, some great grabs and 2 goals from the 50 m line.  Could be one to watch???
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: MilkIt on April 06, 2014, 12:30:27 pm
Ciaran Byrne, one of our international recruits, is cutting loose in the Development Team match.  3 goals at half time, some great grabs and 2 goals from the 50 m line.  Could be one to watch???

Is he playing midfield or as a forward?
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: LP on April 06, 2014, 02:22:04 pm
Web link to radio HERE (http://streaming.gohosting.com.au/bpmmedia.m3u)
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cimm1979 on April 06, 2014, 02:25:05 pm
Web link to radio HERE (http://streaming.gohosting.com.au/bpmmedia.m3u)

Nice one.

Thanks LP.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: LP on April 06, 2014, 02:31:57 pm
Also on 1179 AM in Melbourne.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2014, 04:32:50 pm
Blues ahead by 100 to 91, time on final term.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: shadesy on April 06, 2014, 04:36:52 pm
Cripps, 31 disposals, 15 contested, 8 inside 50's, 5 tackles and a goal.

Yep, got a player here.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Jofo on April 06, 2014, 04:37:22 pm
Crips BOG 31 possessions. 5 tackles. 8 inside 50s and a goal.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2014, 04:37:48 pm
Willy goals through Jolley, only 3 ahead now.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Jofo on April 06, 2014, 04:38:39 pm
Temay has 4
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cimm1979 on April 06, 2014, 04:39:44 pm
Crips BOG 31 possessions. 5 tackles. 8 inside 50s and a goal.

Are you there JOFO?
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2014, 04:41:40 pm
Blues win by 4 points.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Jofo on April 06, 2014, 04:43:19 pm
Crips BOG 31 possessions. 5 tackles. 8 inside 50s and a goal.

Are you there JOFO?

No mate. Just following Twitter. Casboult played so he's not in tonight.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cimm1979 on April 06, 2014, 04:48:13 pm
Crips BOG 31 possessions. 5 tackles. 8 inside 50s and a goal.

Are you there JOFO?

No mate. Just following Twitter. Casboult played so he's not in tonight.

No worries.

Just that Cripps stats where impressive, but don't always tell the story. He sounded pretty good on the radio and Graham had a huge last quarter apparently.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Jofo on April 06, 2014, 04:51:31 pm
I spoke to my brother who was there for 3/4s and he said Cripps was in the bet 2 or 3 on ground. Good last 1/4 =BOG
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cimm1979 on April 06, 2014, 04:53:47 pm
I spoke to my brother who was there for 3/4s and he said Cripps was in the bet 2 or 3 on ground. Good last 1/4 =BOG

No worries.

Hope he goes on with it.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: thrunthrublu on April 06, 2014, 04:57:11 pm
he needs to play next week - full stop!
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Dominator_7 on April 06, 2014, 05:05:53 pm
Lads, brace yourselves....

Cripps' final stats: 34 touches. (17 contested), 10 handball receives, 8 inside 50s, 6 clearances, 5 tackles, 1 goal!!!

WOW!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Jofo on April 06, 2014, 05:07:36 pm
Orgasmic!!!!
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Sexybronco on April 06, 2014, 05:08:52 pm
Lads, brace yourselves....

Cripps' final stats: 34 touches. (17 contested), 10 handball receives, 8 inside 50s, 6 clearances, 5 tackles, 1 goal!!!

WOW!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

bring the kid on, we need a spark. Also thought we were shot half way through the last so this ranks as a great hard fought win against a quality outfit. Let's hope the form continues into tonights game.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: thrunthrublu on April 06, 2014, 05:09:28 pm
there will be trouble if cripps doesn't get a gig next week
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cimm1979 on April 06, 2014, 05:11:02 pm
there will be trouble if cripps doesn't get a gig next week

I don't think you'll see it.


EDIt: maybe you will. It is Melb.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Jofo on April 06, 2014, 05:13:25 pm
Just what we need! Bull ants players putting pressure on for places in the seniors.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Dominator_7 on April 06, 2014, 05:17:39 pm
Wouldn't normally advocate for him to come into the senior side, but against a mostly inexperienced Melbourne midfield, reckon he's a chance.

Probably best he string together two or three of these performances in the VFL before we explode our loads I reckon
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 06, 2014, 05:17:42 pm
Lads, brace yourselves....

Cripps' final stats: 34 touches. (17 contested), 10 handball receives, 8 inside 50s, 6 clearances, 5 tackles, 1 goal!!!

WOW!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Just went ok  from all reports :)...I think he might get a game vs the lowly Melbourne next week....
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: PezzDogg95 on April 06, 2014, 05:18:33 pm
did mclean or lucas play this arvo? didnt really see them mentioned anywhere

they could be hanging around for tonights game. a late change maybe? carrazzo?
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cimm1979 on April 06, 2014, 05:23:49 pm
did mclean or lucas play this arvo? didnt really see them mentioned anywhere

they could be hanging around for tonights game. a late change maybe? carrazzo?

On the radio they said McLean did bugger all.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2014, 05:27:17 pm
There was something on the commentary about Cripps going to the rooms at the end in the hands of the trainers, hope he's OK!
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2014, 05:31:34 pm
There was something on the commentary about Cripps going to the rooms at the end in the hands of the trainers, hope he's OK!

Leather poisoning by the sounds of it.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: thrunthrublu on April 06, 2014, 05:36:53 pm
Wouldn't normally advocate for him to come into the senior side, but against a mostly inexperienced Melbourne midfield, reckon he's a chance.

Probably best he string together two or three of these performances in the VFL before we explode our loads I reckon

too late for me
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2014, 05:53:01 pm
Wouldn't normally advocate for him to come into the senior side, but against a mostly inexperienced Melbourne midfield, reckon he's a chance.

Probably best he string together two or three of these performances in the VFL before we explode our loads I reckon

too late for me

Messiah alert!  :)
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cimm1979 on April 06, 2014, 06:08:43 pm
Wouldn't normally advocate for him to come into the senior side, but against a mostly inexperienced Melbourne midfield, reckon he's a chance.

Probably best he string together two or three of these performances in the VFL before we explode our loads I reckon

too late for me

Messiah alert!  :)

From what I heard on the radio and reports, I'd say Giles is "THE ONE"
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on April 06, 2014, 06:19:26 pm
Wouldn't normally advocate for him to come into the senior side, but against a mostly inexperienced Melbourne midfield, reckon he's a chance.

Probably best he string together two or three of these performances in the VFL before we explode our loads I reckon

Fork that the kid plays he already showed in the preseason he's up to it. 15 touches for him is 15 touches of quality for us.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Raydan on April 06, 2014, 06:24:16 pm
You wouldn't want to have a bad game if you were Bell or Robbo
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2014, 06:26:34 pm
You wouldn't want to have a bad game if you were Bell or Robbo

Bell subbed off round 1

Starting sub this week.

Writing is on the wall.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: thrunthrublu on April 06, 2014, 06:28:16 pm
Wouldn't normally advocate for him to come into the senior side, but against a mostly inexperienced Melbourne midfield, reckon he's a chance.

Probably best he string together two or three of these performances in the VFL before we explode our loads I reckon

too late for me

Messiah alert!  :)

From what I heard on the radio and reports, I'd say Giles is "THE ONE"

looks like a second coming
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: laj on April 06, 2014, 06:38:04 pm
Cripps and Giles, somehow may have finally nailed a draft.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: shadesy on April 06, 2014, 06:42:29 pm
You wouldn't want to have a bad game if you were Bell or Robbo

Bell subbed off round 1

Starting sub this week.

Writing is on the wall.

Krudds and I claimed him early. Back off!
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Raydan on April 06, 2014, 06:46:21 pm
Cripps and Giles, somehow may have finally nailed a draft.

Maybe we should wait before they actually play a senior game before we give our recruiters any plaudits?
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: laj on April 06, 2014, 06:48:25 pm
Cripps and Giles, somehow may have finally nailed a draft.

Maybe we should wait before they actually play a senior game before we give our recruiters any plaudits?

Touch of sacrasm in the statement. Combined with a touch of hope of course.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Baggers on April 06, 2014, 07:07:01 pm
Just got back from the game. Terrific come back by the NBs after trailing by 6 gls at one stage - mainly due to silly erros. Little too much finessing at times which led to turnovers. Couple of howlers gave Willy easy goals.

No Lucas.

Beyond me why Heath Scotland is kicking the due off. An on-field General all day.

Blaine Johnson seems raw as raw but did some really good, strong things. Hard at it.
McLean didn't appear after half time. Until half time had done SFA. Must be carrying an injury.
Watson looked okay when the ball came to him, but was led to the aggott too often. Yep, rolling out the 'too slow' line again. For a bloke with KPP asperations at senior level, just didn't do enough against good but not very good opposition.
Holman was busy and knows how to hit the contest hard, but disposal needs heaps of work. Looks likely.
McInness was the usual terrific negator, but did little else. Has bulked up considerably. Needs another dimension to his game.
Wood. Liked his game. Does this really novel thing at Princes Park when you're a really tall ruckman - marks the ball around the ground!! Couple of really good saves in defence. Tap work needs work - hits it to the feet of the mids too often. Wouldn't have hurt his chances of coming of the Rookie list.
Reynolds. Really liked what I saw. Has dash and gets where the aggott is. Will be keen to monitor his progress. Looks and thinks like a 'real' footballer.
Graham got plenty of the ball and was really busy. Ball magnet. Only negative was I saw him take half steps on two occasions to avoid a big bump - made the crowd moan. Gotta clean this up. Maybe that's why he hasn't had a call up yet.
Levi was a bloody ripper. Kicking for goal still a bit wonky but I'd love to know how many contested grabs he took around the ground. Played in the ruck and high forward. Some terrific saves. Good ruck work. Best big man on the ground for mine.
Boots tried his heart out and did some good things; good defensive things. But spoilt some of his good work with some dumb decisions and at times just roosting the aggott out of defence without looking where to kick it... and the result was predictable - the ball whistled back over his head.
Cripps was the highlight for me. Started slowly (on the ball) but once he picked up the pace - wow. Now I don't want to overstate something here, but I really did see something we haven't seen at BlueBagger Land for a while. Someone who can grab a game by the cods and change the direction. We were 6 goals down and this kid just decided to impose himself on the contest and on the game. He got us back into it with great disposal, great tackles and 1st class reading of the play. I actually don't give a flying fig what his stats were. It was how he influenced this game, almost single-handedly. He, Graham, Levi & Scotland got us over the line.
Sheehan is one powerful unit. Still getting used to the tempo and skills, but something really fearless and dangerous about this dude. Will take a while, bit like Zackery, but I reckon it's there.
Armfield was busy and provided some much needed grunt and leadership when needed. Not sure he'd get a recall on this effort though.
Giles, unless something goes very wrong, looks the goods. Another one who got himself into the game and contest and looked right at home. Moves really well and thinks like a footballer (I know its the 2nd time I've mentioned this but it really seems our altered approach to recruiting has improved the quality of dudes coming into the place. Looking forward to seeing more of this cat.
Cachia was serviceable and did a good blanketing/run-with job. Nothing outstanding though.
Docherty was clearly underdone, but showed some terrific dash. Kicked the goal of the day after breaking loose through the guts, a bounce and let fly from just outside 50. Like a few others he was pretty knackered at the end (Cripps could hardly walk in the last 5 minutes but still worked his dot off).
Temay did some neat things but is just too slow and seems to give up too easily when the contest doesn't go his way. Nothing special.

Of the Preston boys... Joel Wilkinson is a beaut, got caught a couple of times but has real dash. Tyson Thomas was good without being a match winning. Made a couple of bad mistakes but it is only the first game. Was given a lot of time on the HBF.

Don't know what the NBs were thinking getting Jack Anthony. Kicked a couple of goals but, gee, for a bloke his size he was easily out muscled on a number of occasions. Left the field in the final qtr with a leg injury.

Well done NBs on the 4 pt win. They'll be better for the run.

Only negative would be that too much was left to 'name' players to get them over the line. Not nearly enough team cohesion.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2014, 07:07:16 pm
You wouldn't want to have a bad game if you were Bell or Robbo

Bell subbed off round 1

Starting sub this week.

Writing is on the wall.

Krudds and I claimed him early. Back off!


How early is early?

I've been on the case of both Bell and Robbo since early last year. ;)
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2014, 09:47:03 pm
Just got back from the game. Terrific come back by the NBs after trailing by 6 gls at one stage - mainly due to silly erros. Little too much finessing at times which led to turnovers. Couple of howlers gave Willy easy goals.

No Lucas.

Beyond me why Heath Scotland is kicking the due off. An on-field General all day.

Blaine Johnson seems raw as raw but did some really good, strong things. Hard at it.
McLean didn't appear after half time. Until half time had done SFA. Must be carrying an injury.
Watson looked okay when the ball came to him, but was led to the aggott too often. Yep, rolling out the 'too slow' line again. For a bloke with KPP asperations at senior level, just didn't do enough against good but not very good opposition.
Holman was busy and knows how to hit the contest hard, but disposal needs heaps of work. Looks likely.
McInness was the usual terrific negator, but did little else. Has bulked up considerably. Needs another dimension to his game.
Wood. Liked his game. Does this really novel thing at Princes Park when you're a really tall ruckman - marks the ball around the ground!! Couple of really good saves in defence. Tap work needs work - hits it to the feet of the mids too often. Wouldn't have hurt his chances of coming of the Rookie list.
Reynolds. Really liked what I saw. Has dash and gets where the aggott is. Will be keen to monitor his progress. Looks and thinks like a 'real' footballer.
Graham got plenty of the ball and was really busy. Ball magnet. Only negative was I saw him take half steps on two occasions to avoid a big bump - made the crowd moan. Gotta clean this up. Maybe that's why he hasn't had a call up yet.
Levi was a bloody ripper. Kicking for goal still a bit wonky but I'd love to know how many contested grabs he took around the ground. Played in the ruck and high forward. Some terrific saves. Good ruck work. Best big man on the ground for mine.
Boots tried his heart out and did some good things; good defensive things. But spoilt some of his good work with some dumb decisions and at times just roosting the aggott out of defence without looking where to kick it... and the result was predictable - the ball whistled back over his head.
Cripps was the highlight for me. Started slowly (on the ball) but once he picked up the pace - wow. Now I don't want to overstate something here, but I really did see something we haven't seen at BlueBagger Land for a while. Someone who can grab a game by the cods and change the direction. We were 6 goals down and this kid just decided to impose himself on the contest and on the game. He got us back into it with great disposal, great tackles and 1st class reading of the play. I actually don't give a flying fig what his stats were. It was how he influenced this game, almost single-handedly. He, Graham, Levi & Scotland got us over the line.
Sheehan is one powerful unit. Still getting used to the tempo and skills, but something really fearless and dangerous about this dude. Will take a while, bit like Zackery, but I reckon it's there.
Armfield was busy and provided some much needed grunt and leadership when needed. Not sure he'd get a recall on this effort though.
Giles, unless something goes very wrong, looks the goods. Another one who got himself into the game and contest and looked right at home. Moves really well and thinks like a footballer (I know its the 2nd time I've mentioned this but it really seems our altered approach to recruiting has improved the quality of dudes coming into the place. Looking forward to seeing more of this cat.
Cachia was serviceable and did a good blanketing/run-with job. Nothing outstanding though.
Docherty was clearly underdone, but showed some terrific dash. Kicked the goal of the day after breaking loose through the guts, a bounce and let fly from just outside 50. Like a few others he was pretty knackered at the end (Cripps could hardly walk in the last 5 minutes but still worked his dot off).
Temay did some neat things but is just too slow and seems to give up too easily when the contest doesn't go his way. Nothing special.

Of the Preston boys... Joel Wilkinson is a beaut, got caught a couple of times but has real dash. Tyson Thomas was good without being a match winning. Made a couple of bad mistakes but it is only the first game. Was given a lot of time on the HBF.

Don't know what the NBs were thinking getting Jack Anthony. Kicked a couple of goals but, gee, for a bloke his size he was easily out muscled on a number of occasions. Left the field in the final qtr with a leg injury.

Well done NBs on the 4 pt win. They'll be better for the run.

Only negative would be that too much was left to 'name' players to get them over the line. Not nearly enough team cohesion.

How Casboult can't get a game is beyond me. Been saying it for three weeks now ......... how long will it take to realise that we need Henderson at CHB?
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: LP on April 06, 2014, 09:52:05 pm
How Casboult can't get a game is beyond me. Been saying it for three weeks now ......... how long will it take to realise that we need Henderson at CHB?

Because he is no fecking good, don't you get it?

Pump him up today, he played against a team that had old Meese as their only half ruckmen!  ::)
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: blues deluxe on April 06, 2014, 10:01:34 pm
You wouldn't want to have a bad game if you were Bell or Robbo

Bell subbed off round 1

Starting sub this week.

Writing is on the wall.

Krudds and I claimed him early. Back off!


How early is early?

I've been on the case of both Bell and Robbo since early last year. ;)

Yep both must go
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cimm1979 on April 06, 2014, 10:10:43 pm
Don't let the kids near Malthouse.

He'll screw em forever .
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Baggers on April 06, 2014, 10:12:55 pm
Without wanting to sound like a complete defeatist... I said to someone I was with today that we really do look to have recruited some beauts - what a pity it will be that our coaching group will be let loose on them.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: age on April 06, 2014, 10:29:44 pm
Don't let the kids near Malthouse.

He'll screw em forever .

^this
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cimm1979 on April 06, 2014, 10:30:48 pm
Without wanting to sound like a complete defeatist... I said to someone I was with today that we really do look to have recruited some beauts - what a pity it will be that our coaching group will be let loose on them.

You mean our head coach's hand picked coaching group.

Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Baggers on April 06, 2014, 10:33:34 pm
Without wanting to sound like a complete defeatist... I said to someone I was with today that we really do look to have recruited some beauts - what a pity it will be that our coaching group will be let loose on them.

You mean our head coach's hand picked coaching group.

Problem is that MM has kept on too many who've presided over abject failure for years! And a couple of the blokes he tried to get wouldn't come! If you could have heard some of the things that the coach of the NBs was saying to the players today you'd have just shook your head in disbelief... yet they still got up and won (which was a very good effort from a few really bright lights).
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Juddkreuzer on April 06, 2014, 10:34:21 pm
I'd throw caution to the wind against the Dee's.

In... Giles, Cripps, Watson, Reynolds, Casboult, Wood

Out...Warnock, Rowe, White, Tuohy, Gibbs, Walker
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cimm1979 on April 06, 2014, 10:36:49 pm
Without wanting to sound like a complete defeatist... I said to someone I was with today that we really do look to have recruited some beauts - what a pity it will be that our coaching group will be let loose on them.

You mean our head coach's hand picked coaching group.

Problem is that MM has kept on too many who've presided over abject failure for years! And a couple of the blokes he tried to get wouldn't come! If you could have heard some of the things that the coach of the NBs was saying to the players today you'd have just shook your head in disbelief... yet they still got up and won (which was a very good effort from a few really bright lights).

Get screwed.

MM owns this cluster screw. If the coaching panel is crap there's only one guy you need look at.

FMD .
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: crashlander on April 07, 2014, 10:41:09 am
Just got back from the game. Terrific come back by the NBs after trailing by 6 gls at one stage - mainly due to silly erros. Little too much finessing at times which led to turnovers. Couple of howlers gave Willy easy goals.

No Lucas.

Beyond me why Heath Scotland is kicking the due off. An on-field General all day.

Blaine Johnson seems raw as raw but did some really good, strong things. Hard at it.
McLean didn't appear after half time. Until half time had done SFA. Must be carrying an injury.
Watson looked okay when the ball came to him, but was led to the aggott too often. Yep, rolling out the 'too slow' line again. For a bloke with KPP asperations at senior level, just didn't do enough against good but not very good opposition.
Holman was busy and knows how to hit the contest hard, but disposal needs heaps of work. Looks likely.
McInness was the usual terrific negator, but did little else. Has bulked up considerably. Needs another dimension to his game.
Wood. Liked his game. Does this really novel thing at Princes Park when you're a really tall ruckman - marks the ball around the ground!! Couple of really good saves in defence. Tap work needs work - hits it to the feet of the mids too often. Wouldn't have hurt his chances of coming of the Rookie list.
Reynolds. Really liked what I saw. Has dash and gets where the aggott is. Will be keen to monitor his progress. Looks and thinks like a 'real' footballer.
Graham got plenty of the ball and was really busy. Ball magnet. Only negative was I saw him take half steps on two occasions to avoid a big bump - made the crowd moan. Gotta clean this up. Maybe that's why he hasn't had a call up yet.
Levi was a bloody ripper. Kicking for goal still a bit wonky but I'd love to know how many contested grabs he took around the ground. Played in the ruck and high forward. Some terrific saves. Good ruck work. Best big man on the ground for mine.
Boots tried his heart out and did some good things; good defensive things. But spoilt some of his good work with some dumb decisions and at times just roosting the aggott out of defence without looking where to kick it... and the result was predictable - the ball whistled back over his head.
Cripps was the highlight for me. Started slowly (on the ball) but once he picked up the pace - wow. Now I don't want to overstate something here, but I really did see something we haven't seen at BlueBagger Land for a while. Someone who can grab a game by the cods and change the direction. We were 6 goals down and this kid just decided to impose himself on the contest and on the game. He got us back into it with great disposal, great tackles and 1st class reading of the play. I actually don't give a flying fig what his stats were. It was how he influenced this game, almost single-handedly. He, Graham, Levi & Scotland got us over the line.
Sheehan is one powerful unit. Still getting used to the tempo and skills, but something really fearless and dangerous about this dude. Will take a while, bit like Zackery, but I reckon it's there.
Armfield was busy and provided some much needed grunt and leadership when needed. Not sure he'd get a recall on this effort though.
Giles, unless something goes very wrong, looks the goods. Another one who got himself into the game and contest and looked right at home. Moves really well and thinks like a footballer (I know its the 2nd time I've mentioned this but it really seems our altered approach to recruiting has improved the quality of dudes coming into the place. Looking forward to seeing more of this cat.
Cachia was serviceable and did a good blanketing/run-with job. Nothing outstanding though.
Docherty was clearly underdone, but showed some terrific dash. Kicked the goal of the day after breaking loose through the guts, a bounce and let fly from just outside 50. Like a few others he was pretty knackered at the end (Cripps could hardly walk in the last 5 minutes but still worked his dot off).
Temay did some neat things but is just too slow and seems to give up too easily when the contest doesn't go his way. Nothing special.

Of the Preston boys... Joel Wilkinson is a beaut, got caught a couple of times but has real dash. Tyson Thomas was good without being a match winning. Made a couple of bad mistakes but it is only the first game. Was given a lot of time on the HBF.

Don't know what the NBs were thinking getting Jack Anthony. Kicked a couple of goals but, gee, for a bloke his size he was easily out muscled on a number of occasions. Left the field in the final qtr with a leg injury.

Well done NBs on the 4 pt win. They'll be better for the run.

Only negative would be that too much was left to 'name' players to get them over the line. Not nearly enough team cohesion.
Thanks for the great report, Baggers. I enjoyed reading it, although a few things were disappointments. I was disappointed to read that Tom Temay, for all of his 4 goals, did not impress. Unfortunately I think you might be right: he is just not quick enough and he gives up when the ball is still an option. When he thinks he can get there, he attacks excellently, but it appears that he knows he can't get guys unless they are close. Reminds me of Broke somewhat.
Otherwise, I am VERY glad we won, given the saga over the summer.
Also very glad the Development team won!
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: crashlander on April 07, 2014, 10:43:11 am
2014 AFL Victoria Development League
Northern Blues   3.3  9.5  13.8  15.8 (98)
Williamstown   2.3  7.4  9.6  10.9 (69)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Dorman 4 Byrne 3 Wilson 2 Walton 2 Soncin  Murray  Dufficy  Emley
Williamstown: Hayes 3 Bugeja 2 Hetherington  Greiser  Nastasi  Wyatt  Bewley

BEST:
Northern Blues: Dirago Posar Tardio Watson Dorman Byrne
Williamstown: Currie Dorgan McConnon Woods Wyatt Walker
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: crashlander on April 07, 2014, 10:45:06 am
2014 Peter Jackson VFL
Northern Blues   4.4  5.9  10.10  15.11 (101)
Williamstown   5.1  9.5  12.10  14.13 (97)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Temay 4 Anthony 3 Casboult  Docherty  Cripps  Scotland  Wood  Sheehan  Totevski  Graham
Williamstown: Anastasio 4 Banner 2 Clouston  Tighe  Meese  Davies  Jolley  Gibbons  Sikora  Owen

BEST:
Northern Blues: Scotland Casboult Cripps Temay Wood Graham
Williamstown: Lockwood Davies Anastasio Carr Kulikowski Jolley
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: nathbear on April 07, 2014, 02:06:06 pm
2014 Peter Jackson VFL
Northern Blues   4.4  5.9  10.10  15.11 (101)
Williamstown   5.1  9.5  12.10  14.13 (97)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Temay 4 Anthony 3 Casboult  Docherty  Cripps  Scotland  Wood  Sheehan  Totevski  Graham
Williamstown: Anastasio 4 Banner 2 Clouston  Tighe  Meese  Davies  Jolley  Gibbons  Sikora  Owen

BEST:
Northern Blues: Scotland Casboult Cripps Temay Wood Graham
Williamstown: Lockwood Davies Anastasio Carr Kulikowski Jolley

Surely some heavy changes to the Senior side on the back of this weekend's results at every level?

I'd go for:

IN: Scotland, Casboult, Cripps, Wood, Graham
OUT: Rowe, Warnock, Bell, Ellard, White

I'm sick of our rucks offering nothing around the ground and none of Rowe, Bell, Ellard or White would get a game at any other club, so why do we keep picking them?

If we don't start doing something differently, the only positive we'll take out of this season is a top 5 draft pick.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: LP on April 07, 2014, 02:24:08 pm
We have to be very careful about assessing the weekends NB game, it was a team with 17 AFL listed players up against a team with exactly none!

For example, some have pumped up Casboult, but given his size, the stellar pre-season we hear reported giving him a new level of strength and fitness added to his ability to mark. Meat, now possibly in his AFL prime at 23 years of age, should be clunking 15 marks and kicking 7 or 8 goals against sides like that.

He kicked 1 and Jack Anthony was our main target up forward!

Of the kids playing Cripps, Graham and Temay did really well but had Scotland a General all day telling them where to go and when to go there. Kids often do well when clubs haven't seen them yet, the proof comes late in the season when they encounter re-matches, and we do not want them butchered before they mature like a few others we could name.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: cookie2 on April 07, 2014, 03:09:00 pm
Much as we might be tempted to rush young kids into the senior cauldron we must be very careful not to burn them up. If we have the likes of Scotland tutoring them in games and playing alongside them, I'd be happy to let that stay in place for now. Let's learn from past mistakes and try and develop the new crop properly.

Sure. make a few changes, but this year's newbies at least definitely should get a bit more nurturing.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: RiverRat on April 07, 2014, 07:10:33 pm
Thanks Baggers - comprehensive summary with both eyes open

Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: RiverRat on April 07, 2014, 07:14:24 pm


How were the pies? ;)
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: JonDorotich on April 07, 2014, 11:52:08 pm
We have to be very careful about assessing the weekends NB game, it was a team with 17 AFL listed players up against a team with exactly none!

For example, some have pumped up Casboult, but given his size, the stellar pre-season we hear reported giving him a new level of strength and fitness added to his ability to mark. Meat, now possibly in his AFL prime at 23 years of age, should be clunking 15 marks and kicking 7 or 8 goals against sides like that.

He kicked 1 and Jack Anthony was our main target up forward!

Of the kids playing Cripps, Graham and Temay did really well but had Scotland a General all day telling them where to go and when to go there. Kids often do well when clubs haven't seen them yet, the proof comes late in the season when they encounter re-matches, and we do not want them butchered before they mature like a few others we could name.

How many guys playing in the ruck kick 7 goals????
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Baggers on April 08, 2014, 07:51:12 am


How were the pies? ;)

 :)) I did my bit to 'dent their stocks'...
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: Baggers on April 08, 2014, 08:00:29 am
We have to be very careful about assessing the weekends NB game, it was a team with 17 AFL listed players up against a team with exactly none!

For example, some have pumped up Casboult, but given his size, the stellar pre-season we hear reported giving him a new level of strength and fitness added to his ability to mark. Meat, now possibly in his AFL prime at 23 years of age, should be clunking 15 marks and kicking 7 or 8 goals against sides like that.

He kicked 1 and Jack Anthony was our main target up forward!

Of the kids playing Cripps, Graham and Temay did really well but had Scotland a General all day telling them where to go and when to go there. Kids often do well when clubs haven't seen them yet, the proof comes late in the season when they encounter re-matches, and we do not want them butchered before they mature like a few others we could name.

You can only comment on what you see, Spotted One.

Willy is a club that has had the wood on us, so getting up against them was something to be pleased about - especially considering they had their tails up and our boys fought back to win (though, yes, probably shouldn't have trailed by that much to begin with - first game and silly mistakes cost us). We all know the realities and what it will take for some of these kids, but you have to start somewhere and some of them showed a good start. I was more buoyed by the likes of Cripps, Giles, Reynolds, Sheehan, johnson, Holman, Wood, Graham & Docherty than what I have witnessed running around in the NBs for a while. And regardless of the negative opinions of Levi Casboult... again, you can only comment on what you see and I saw a bloke giving it his all and clunking quality contested grabs. Although his 'tap work' is not up there with 206, his effort and contest in the middle and around the ground was good and encouraging.
Title: Re: Northern Blues vs. Williamstown Sunday 6th April at Visy
Post by: BlueAvenger on April 08, 2014, 08:28:54 am
2014 Peter Jackson VFL
Northern Blues   4.4  5.9  10.10  15.11 (101)
Williamstown   5.1  9.5  12.10  14.13 (97)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Temay 4 Anthony 3 Casboult  Docherty  Cripps  Scotland  Wood  Sheehan  Totevski  Graham
Williamstown: Anastasio 4 Banner 2 Clouston  Tighe  Meese  Davies  Jolley  Gibbons  Sikora  Owen

BEST:
Northern Blues: Scotland Casboult Cripps Temay Wood Graham
Williamstown: Lockwood Davies Anastasio Carr Kulikowski Jolley

Surely some heavy changes to the Senior side on the back of this weekend's results at every level?

I'd go for:

IN: Scotland, Casboult, Cripps, Wood, Graham
OUT: Rowe, Warnock, Bell, Ellard, White

I'm sick of our rucks offering nothing around the ground and none of Rowe, Bell, Ellard or White would get a game at any other club, so why do we keep picking them?

If we don't start doing something differently, the only positive we'll take out of this season is a top 5 draft pick.
Please let this happen. I reckon the Bolt and ProbablyWood could potentially most definitely be a better Ruck/Forward combo than Warnock and Rowe. IMO Rowe will be gone at the end of the year and Knockers should not be our #1 ruck. Offers SFA around the ground, doesnt block, not one aggressive bone in his body, cant kick. I reckon we'd be better off coaxing Brogan out of retirement than having Warnock on the ground, thats how much i think he offers. Hell, Capuano might give us more. Still seething from Sunday nights performance.

@Baggers, Great job on the report mate  ;)

Desperately need some run back in the side, Armfield, Docherty and Lucas are all runners. That bloke Judd might me useful as well.