Re: Docherty standing down
Reply #37 –
Yes but, Teague and malthouse are two different people.
Cripps early work with Teague suggests that he was on board with him to start with.
Kruddler, I've looked through what happened with Teague and arrived at one simple conclusion. We were better off changing him now than we were persisting with him, and Cripps may also have known that for various reasons hence his silence.
We have a view of the iceberg that is solely above the water from outside the club. There are many elements below the water we don't see and we just don't know enough about really. We can try and know but we won't know either way really.
You might be right, you might not be. I couldn't tell you for sure. Teague was appointed for much the same reason. The tail wagged the dog.
I see it pretty much the same way Thry. Teague's appointment was populist and the easy way out. The club then failed to give him the resources and support that he desperately needed (although I think Teague foolishly maintained that he didn't need support). I wasn't happy with the way Teague's departure was mishandled but terminating his contract was really the only option if we're to be successful.
As for Cripps, he certainly wasn't silent when it came to Teague, and there were some unfortunate contributions about Cripps from the Teague camp. For example:
... Teague’s manager Liam Pickering criticised Carlton skipper Patrick Cripps, saying it had been “a long time” since Cripps delivered both in ball-getting and defensive efforts and that the Blues “need more out of their captain”.
“It has been long time since he actually has delivered in a consistent manner both ways in a game of football, where he gets the ball and he actually puts defensive pressure on [and] chases and tackles,” said Pickering on SEN.
“He is a good enough footballer to adapt to the modern game. He is an inside midfielder, but they ran off him.”
23 Aug 2021
Then there's Crippa's defence of Teague:
"I think it [the review] will involve everyone, us as leaders as well," Cripps said.
"I think we're all going to get feedback. When you're in places like this it's easy to point to one person, but footy clubs are a collective group. We're all taking responsibility for where we are at the moment.
"It's not just on 'Teaguey', it's on everyone. I want everyone to get feedback from this review and I think everyone will be open to knowing how we get better."
21 Jun 2021
And Teague's crack at Cripps when the latter was subbed out:
“I don’t know if he [Cripps] hurt it early or he was just choosing to handball,” Teague said following the defeat.
“But a little bit of that hurt us around the contest at times. That is something from a leadership point of view and a group point of view we have got to get better at.”
23 Aug 2021
And Crippa's response:
“They asked me to play,” Cripps told Fox Sports News, who finished with 17 handballs and no kicks during the defeat.
“I just tweaked my ankle early in the game. I always love playing footy and the body didn’t hold up in the last round.
“I’m just excited to get away in the off-season and freshen up and have a really big pre-season and together with Teague have a big year next year.”
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“Me and Teague just had our end of season interview,” Cripps said.
“We have a great working relationship. All year we communicated all the time. He’s a great bloke, we have great respect for each other.”
24 Aug 21
Crippa isn't mentioned among the players who allegedly called for Teague to be retained but, at least some reporters concede that they didn't know his private position regarding Teague. I suspect that Cripps knows enough about footy to realise that another season with Teague as coach would have meant another season in the doldrums. Giving that feedback to the review would, in my opinion, be entirely appropriate for the skipper and any senior player. Loyalty is an important attribute but loyalty to the club, the playing group and the supporters is more important than loyalty to an individual who was holding the club back.