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Re: Rd 11: Pre Game Patter: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #60 –
Quote from: kruddler on
The bold was the take home point.....as mentioned previously, wasn't specifically directed at you.
He does other more important things on the field that make him far more valuable than people realise. Hitting the scoreboard being the obvious one that can't be overlooked.

Indeed!
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Rd 11: Pre Game Patter: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #61 –
No matter what you may think about Gorringe and his present limitations, hitting the score board has been a real positive. He usually kicks the ball well and straight. Not many of our forwards in recent years can make the same claim.
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Re: Rd 11: Pre Game Patter: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #62 –
Quote from: crashlander on
No matter what you may think about Gorringe and his present limitations, hitting the score board has been a real positive. He usually kicks the ball well and straight. Not many of our forwards in recent years can make the same claim.

In some ways he's a bigger version of Everitt.  During the pre-season I speculated that we could only play one or the other but I was definitely on the wrong track there.

“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Rd 11: Pre Game Patter: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #63 –
To digress, i thought 1AW found some form too though he still tries for way too many speccies!

How many times did we have 3 or 4 fly for the mark in the forward line? Too many imo.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Rd 11: Pre Game Patter: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #64 –
re: Gorringe.....Bolton will have to decide if he wants two specialist ruckman ie Kruezer and Philips or have the flexibility of Gorringe and Casboult to support Kruezer.
I dont rate either Gorringe or Casboult as great ruckman and its more about giving Kruezer a rest than gaining any advantage in the ruck or though Casboult gives you marking ability around the ground and some size.

Philips is a steady ruckman who has done well IMO and you know what you are getting...Gorringe is like a bigger Everitt as someone suggested and has that X factor/upside tag as you are not sure week to week what you will get unlike Philips....
I'd like to see Gorringe stay in the team and see if he can improve both his ruckwork and consistency...some of his handball is creative and he gives me the impression he could kick a bag of goals he if worked hard and tried to learn more about forward play....
The time to experiment is now while we are in a learning phase and just for the moment I would give Gorringe a few more games and see how far he can go with his development, if he doesnt work out then you have the reliable Philips to come back into the team..



Re: Rd 11: Pre Game Patter: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #65 –
Quote from: flyboy77 on
To digress, i thought 1AW found some form too though he still tries for way too many speccies!

How many times did we have 3 or 4 fly for the mark in the forward line? Too many imo.

I thought Walks was very good and I loved it when he turned Hendo inside out and strolled in for a goal.  He is another that seems to play better when he is a touch aggro and I suspect that the Bolton way will suit him.

I think I only counted two speccy attempts but there were several occasions when all of the forwards near the contest were flying and we missed easy crumbers' goals as a result.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Rd 11: Pre Game Patter: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #66 –
1AW has definitely improved as the year has progressed and is currently a good contributor. However, I wonder how many more years he has left in him? I think Gorringe would be an option to eventually replace him in the forward structure and we should definitely take the opportunity to continue his development. Alternatively he might be an option as a tall on ball type like Blicavs.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #67 –
In all the talk post game, one theme that has reoccurred is the fact that the 'back six' is looking extremely settled.  Plowman, Touy, Rowe, Simpson, Dougherty, Weitering, Thomas ......and Byrne ready to be reinstated.  Unfortunately the name Michael Jamieson seems to be a thing of the past.

Re: Rd 11: Pre Game Patter: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #68 –
Quote from: townsendcalling on
In all the talk post game, one theme that has reoccurred is the fact that the 'back six' is looking extremely settled.  Plowman, Touy, Rowe, Simpson, Dougherty, Weitering, Thomas ......and Byrne ready to be reinstated.  Unfortunately the name Michael Jamieson seems to be a thing of the past.

IMO Jamo is done unfortunately and will see out the remainder of the year, and CFC career, as a backup player, having achieved his 150th. All good things eventually come to an end.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #69 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
IMO Jamo is done unfortunately and will see out the remainder of the year, and CFC career, as a backup player, having achieved his 150th. All good things eventually come to an end.
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Reply #70 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
IMO Jamo is done unfortunately and will see out the remainder of the year, and CFC career, as a backup player, having achieved his 150th. All good things eventually come to an end.

I have been critical of Jamison in the recent past and I wonder if his shoulder injuries are limiting his ability to play at the top level.  However, I'm not going to write him off just yet.  The fact that he isn't required to plug a gaping hole in our defence may give him time to regain some form.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #71 –
Quote from: townsendcalling on
In all the talk post game, one theme that has reoccurred is the fact that the 'back six' is looking extremely settled.  Plowman, Touy, Rowe, Simpson, Dougherty, Weitering, Thomas ......and Byrne ready to be reinstated.  Unfortunately the name Michael Jamieson seems to be a thing of the past.
Bad for Jamo who has been a loyal servant but good for us in the sense that we have a back six that will see us into the short term future. Rowe is the next one we need a succession plan for, he is 28 but has durability on his side. Rarely injured (touch wood) and hence is ok for the short term but we need a plan. At the moment though, the defence is looking good and after seeing it in action live on Sun, I liked what I saw.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
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2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Rd 11: Pre Game Patter: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #72 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Bad for Jamo who has been a loyal servant but good for us in the sense that we have a back six that will see us into the short term future. Rowe is the next one we need a succession plan for, he is 28 but has durability on his side. Rarely injured (touch wood) and hence is ok for the short term but we need a plan. At the moment though, the defence is looking good and after seeing it in action live on Sun, I liked what I saw.

Agree.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #73 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
IMO Jamo is done unfortunately and will see out the remainder of the year, and CFC career, as a backup player, having achieved his 150th. All good things eventually come to an end.

I agree, but it is a massive shame. There was hardly any mention of his 150th when it was Simmos 250th (fair enough), but Jamo was a gun at his best. He was one of the best 1-2 marking key defenders in the competition for a while there. I was talking to a mate recently who asked what had happened to him because "he was a gun"...

Unfortunately with Jamo his body just doesn't seem to be able to hold up to the rigours of AFL football and now a few years have passed by and I don't see him ever being a key position player again. There may be an option for him to play as a rebounding/marking half back, but in reality with the likes of Simmo in the team we have that role also covered.

It sucks, but it will be very hard for him from here I think
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Reply #74 –
Quote from: DJC on
It was Tribey who used to spin out whenever someone mentioned 'danger game'.  Haven't seen him around here for a while  ???

Missing me DJ?