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Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #60
The Moth will get his 15 minutes of fame, courtesy of a nice mark and set shot, and yet again we get the miracle victory in the dying moments, but the real take away for me was the genuine physicality on display. I can't remember the last time I saw a Carlton team play such a physical brand.
Who's The Moth?
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #61
Finals would be fabulous but would you rather make it and get smashed or sit just outside and build some hunger for next year.

Watched the final quarter just now and have to say the last 3.30 Minutes Were the best and most composed I’ve seen all year.  Smart direct kicks, using their brains rather than try and mail it forward in a wild panic.  Huge step.

And the kicks in those last minutes, superb. Can’t recall who to Plow, who then hit up long to Casbolt and tHen Casbolts front of the square. Excellent.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #62
Not me
Just watching the game, Cottrell did not much for three quarters then finally he was amongst it in the last.
Funny commentary they talk about him going for a mark and how he needed to take the opportunity as he was 30m our from goal - that was about 10min mark of last quarter. Interesting how it worked out, he worked very hard to still be involved even tho and as he agreed, it wasn’t really his night until the end.


Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #63
Finals would be fabulous but would you rather make it and get smashed or sit just outside and build some hunger for next year.

Watched the final quarter just now and have to say the last 3.30 Minutes Were the best and most composed I’ve seen all year.  Smart direct kicks, using their brains rather than try and mail it forward in a wild panic.  Huge step.

And the kicks in those last minutes, superb. Can’t recall who to Plow, who then hit up long to Casbolt and tHen Casbolts front of the square. Excellent.
SPS?
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #64
Love your optimism, but you know you're r00ted when you begin to say, "If they... then those... and we... followed by... and that happens twice... then we'll..." I reckon we'll finish 10th, which is a strong step in the right direction. These blokes know they're a flea's franger from playing finals, and doing well in finals. Just a coupla quality ins, on-field and in the assistant coaching ranks, and look out, the swagger might be back.

Not optimisim, just facts.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #65
Who's The Moth?

According to Daisy Thomas, Cottrell calls himself the Moth because he likes the bright lights. He had a nothing game up to that point.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #66
According to Daisy Thomas, Cottrell calls himself the Moth because he likes the bright lights. He had a nothing game up to that point.
Got it, thanks.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time


Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #68
And the kicks in those last minutes, superb. Can’t recall who to Plow, who then hit up long to Casbolt and tHen Casbolts front of the square. Excellent.
If you're talking about Levi's front and centre that Cottrell marked. Wonder kid Walsh was the hit up kick to Casboult.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #69
We just can't seem to get all 22 humming along and contributing. Last night showed why I have been saying McGovern needs to GTFO of our club.  Ditto Cunningham. People going on about SPS's game, pfft, he can go also.
Cameron Bruce also needs to go, we need a fwd line coach that has some semblance of a clue and that can introduce a system that our "football mental" lightweights can cope with. This year is shot but for FFS, get a specialist goal kicking coach back at the club. Sav, Fev, Dunstall, someone that again has some idea of how to teach all our guys how to kick a football from a set shot.
I turned it off after they kicked the 6th as it was just too hard to watch. Taken was on, at least I know Liam Neeson shoots straight. I found out Carlton won via text so I watched the game from that point on. Showed some ticker to get back from 6.5 goals down, never should have got in that predicament in the first place. Can't help but be negative after that, sorry.


We got the 4 points and it was nice to win a close one but I get your drift.
Truth is most of us wouldn't know half the Swans team that was on the park and it was the weakest team I have seen them field for a long while and I was expecting a decent size win rather than falling over the line.
You can only beat what's on the park but I'm not getting carried away either and saying we have arrived and we don't have any problems.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #70
I was mentally exhausted after that game. Six and a half goals down, should have won by five, then the umpires used the Carlton rule where they have to give an absolute shocker to the opposition in front of goal or miss a blindingly obvious one to us, fortunately the guy missed. Looked like his back foot slipped as he was kicking.
Other than Newnes, no one can kick the ball more than 35 meters in our forward line. Murphy, Fisher, SPS & Owies all couldn't make the distance running into the goals. I am really concerned by McGovern. Going forward if I was to chose our forward line I would have McKay, C.Curnow, J.Silvagni, Martin, Fisher, Cuningham and Gibbons, he wouldn't be there. I was willing to give him a pass last year after breaking a bone in his back but there has been a real lack of intent this season.
While Walsh was really good last night, a couple of his decisions were very poor. He should have hand balled the ball to SPS in the third quarter who would have either drawn the Swans player or SPS would have run the ball out of defence. His decsion to kick the ball to Cottrell who was out of position to take it cost us a goal. Walsh also should given the ball to Owies who would have been able to drive it into the F50, instead he held onto the ball and he got run down. It was like against Melbourne, his poor decisions in the last quarter cost us a chance to win that match. The kid is only 19 and obviously has confidence in his own ability, but he has got to learn to temper his ego and do the simple things well.
If we don't make the finals, which is likely, it will be because of the Hawthorn game and the Melbourne game. We were unlucky against Port but we were lucky against Freo. If we are able to kick one more goal a match and restrict our opponents by one goal, we will be well in the top eight. If we are able to improve by net one goal a quarter, we will be in the top four.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #71
McGovern's night:
23 metres gained
(crickets)
1 kick
(crickets)
4 handballs
(crickets)
2 tackles
(crickets)

"Huge" improvement on the first half of zero, zero, zero and zero....lol.

He had it much easier at Adelaide as the ball flew into the forward 50. Often could be a match winner. Here he has to work alot harder for the ball, and he better bloody well start doing it.  Work damn hard over the summer. We cannot possibly play him Sunday.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #72
I was mentally exhausted after that game. Six and a half goals down, should have won by five, then the umpires used the Carlton rule where they have to give an absolute shocker to the opposition in front of goal or miss a blindingly obvious one to us, fortunately the guy missed. Looked like his back foot slipped as he was kicking.
Other than Newnes, no one can kick the ball more than 35 meters in our forward line. Murphy, Fisher, SPS & Owies all couldn't make the distance running into the goals. I am really concerned by McGovern. Going forward if I was to chose our forward line I would have McKay, C.Curnow, J.Silvagni, Martin, Fisher, Cuningham and Gibbons, he wouldn't be there. I was willing to give him a pass last year after breaking a bone in his back but there has been a real lack of intent this season.
While Walsh was really good last night, a couple of his decisions were very poor. He should have hand balled the ball to SPS in the third quarter who would have either drawn the Swans player or SPS would have run the ball out of defence. His decsion to kick the ball to Cottrell who was out of position to take it cost us a goal. Walsh also should given the ball to Owies who would have been able to drive it into the F50, instead he held onto the ball and he got run down. It was like against Melbourne, his poor decisions in the last quarter cost us a chance to win that match. The kid is only 19 and obviously has confidence in his own ability, but he has got to learn to temper his ego and do the simple things well.
If we don't make the finals, which is likely, it will be because of the Hawthorn game and the Melbourne game. We were unlucky against Port but we were lucky against Freo. If we are able to kick one more goal a match and restrict our opponents by one goal, we will be well in the top eight. If we are able to improve by net one goal a quarter, we will be in the top four.

Not so worried about the Hawthorn game. Every side has put in a shocker. Something to be expected in a year. The Melbourne loss is now costly but if we didn't $hit the bed when leading the last 2 weeks at 3/4 time we'd be entrenched in the 8.  Those, together with a win against Melbourne too seeing us just outside top 4. Been a close year.

I just hope the Bulldogs don't touch us out of the 8 after that goal review decision last weekend. Half that ball was on the goal line and should've been called a behind.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #73
Finals would be fabulous but would you rather make it and get smashed or sit just outside and build some hunger for next year.

Watched the final quarter just now and have to say the last 3.30 Minutes Were the best and most composed I’ve seen all year.  Smart direct kicks, using their brains rather than try and mail it forward in a wild panic.  Huge step.

And the kicks in those last minutes, superb. Can’t recall who to Plow, who then hit up long to Casbolt and tHen Casbolts front of the square. Excellent.

Happy to make it even if we get smashed. Just help development us being there. We'd have to go to the Perth if we made it. We'd likely be competitive as we are most weeks but doubt we'd win.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

Reply #74
Happy to make it even if we get smashed. Just help development us being there. We'd have to go to the Perth if we made it. We'd likely be competitive as we are most weeks but doubt we'd win.
Agree, would love to sneak into the finals, whether we get smashed or not matters not for now. Reality is its now highly unlikely, we blew our chances against Coll and GWS.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time