At the moment we are drawn to play Geelong. Don't know where, don't know when.
With half a team available, our chances do not look that good. But, as Gold Coast showed against Richmond, you never know what might happen.
Cameron should be out.
Cameron should be out.
Not sure that makes it easier, especially after Hawkins bagged six, just removes a potential confusion for the Handbagger midfield!
We're one a winning streak against Geelong of one in a row. If we win tonight then the game becomes really important.
What channel is showing our game?
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Very good spread of team effort against Freo with good or useful contributions from every player and reasons for retaining them:
Forwards
Harry McKay - the target was beaten against Freo but made the most of his chances for a change
Eddie Betts - still deserves his place in the team
Jack Silvagni - the hard worker
Jack Martin - lacks tank and intensity to play elsewhere but is an x-factor up forward - if only he could kick straight
Matthew Owies - does his bit - needs to continue doing so
Mids
Tom De Koning - the only ruck we have ATM - doing okay
Sam Walsh - our best player
Patrick Cripps - our former best player
Paddy Dow - finally on the way
Ed Curnow - still earns his part
Matthew Kennedy - better around the ground than in the midfield but midfield depth is very shallow
Utilities
Levi Casboult - necessary ruck relief who can contribute forward or back
Jack Newnes - was in Saints leadership group and has necessary strength, speed and skill to play on the wing or flank
Lachie Fogarty - hard at it but has yet to lock down a place in the team
Sam Petrevski-Seton - the jury's still out - except for the fact that he should never play in defence again
Defenders
Jacob Weitering - pillar of strength
Liam Jones - another pillar
Adam Saad - provides necessary speed and intensity
Liam Stocker - should now be an automatic selection but could contribute to midfield depth sooner or later
Lachie Plowman - panics too much on last line but provides flexibility to defensive match ups and is a good link player
Nic Newman - makes some dumb errors but generally a contributor who can keep Plowman off last line
Tom Williamson - main attribute seems to be to provide another tallish option to keep Plowman off the last line
I reckon Williamson and the players listed as utilities are on the bubble when a better option becomes available
@RR....
Hard to argue with any of that.
I reckon we'll have Williams and Fisher back for Geelong.
I suspect Williamson to be one out.
I'd keep Fogarty against his old side.
SPS needs more games in position.
Newnes is a seasoned body we'll need against the cats IMO.
I'd drop Casboult......but we won't.
I'd go back to playing Silvagni as 2nd ruck.
The Geelong rucks are too mobile for Casboult.
Stanley will dominate Casboult in the ruck.
Blicavz is like an extra midfielder the way he runs around.
TDK is a good matchup for both, but will need a chop out, so an extra mid in the ruck will allow us to run with Blicavz without flogging TDK.
Fisher should not come straight back in.....imo.
The week's rest should do Williams good - and the chance to work on improving his fitness.
Doesnt matter who comes in or goes out, this is the toughest assignment in footy, whilst we have won two in a row and Cameron is out, I give us virtually no chance. Dads Army are on ATM, I hope its not a flogging and we are competitive. If Crippa's foot is sore, I would rest him.
Doesnt matter who comes in or goes out, this is the toughest assignment in footy, whilst we have won two in a row and Cameron is out, I give us virtually no chance. Das Army are on ATM, I hope its not a flogging and we are competitive. If Crippa's foot is sore, I would rest him.
Yes, a big loss to the Lions, but good wins against the Dogs and Port in recent weeks, as well as wins against lesser lights Essendon and Collingwood. They are a class above, and should win comfortably, Cameron or no Cameron.
Yes, a big loss to the Lions, but good wins against the Dogs and Port in recent weeks, as well as wins against lesser lights Essendon and Collingwood. They are a class above, and should win comfortably, Cameron or no Cameron.
And yet we beat them at the Cattery early last year?
And were smashing them for 3 quarters.....
I thought Williamson was ok and doesnt deserve dropping .....
Casboult will have to play as TDK looked cooked late in the game and Blicavs is about the worst opponent in that regard
to have to front up to the following week as he works as a follower and not a genuine ruckman......those old enough will know the difference.
Cripps needs resting, he stayed on the field with only one functioning foot but looked very sore...probably Williams could take his spot but I'd leave the defense as is with Newman and Williamson along with Stocker as my small to mid defenders.
Plowman will probably get Rohan but thats a matchup I'm uneasy about and would almost play Jones on him.
Be interesting to see if the Cats play Constable this week given the press he has had, been flying in the twos....
EB, I reckon there's a few blokes down at the cattery that are way over rated, sure they'll probably flog us but blokes like Blicavs make some horrible decisions at critical times, especially if he plays in defence. If, and that's a big if, we get on top in the midfield and they have to throw him back I reckon McKay could really get off the chain. Owies and Eddie might run Kolojasniiv(sic) around as well, there's another weak link. I reckon this could be an interesting game, especially with Cameron missing.
EB, I reckon there's a few blokes down at the cattery that are way over rated, sure they'll probably flog us but blokes like Blicavs make some horrible decisions at critical times, especially if he plays in defence. If, and that's a big if, we get on top in the midfield and they have to throw him back I reckon McKay could really get off the chain. Owies and Eddie might run Kolojasniiv(sic) around as well, there's another weak link. I reckon this could be an interesting game, especially with Cameron missing.
With TDK its more about his endurance and needing a decent break in games to preserve him as he is still slender and as we saw with Darcy just got worn down by the bigger stronger player. TDK has all the skills to match Blicavs and more its just the Geelong player is an endurance beast and he will run all day and jump all day but our man will need a break or end up broken.
Cats with Henderson down back as the chief tall defender dont impress me either, Harry will enjoy the size advantage...think he found the equally tall Pearce from Freo an awkward dude to play on and hopefully he can towel up the traitor that is Henderson.
I give us a chance as Geelong are so far up themselves they need a guide dog and a roadmap to find their way back but we need to have everything going our way and no stupid basic errors like mismatching players, playing injured players or expecting TDK to ruck without proper breaks.ie a player like Tom Stewart needs an accountable forward not one who will chase the ball and leave Stewart alone taking intercepts at will and racking up ridiculous possession numbers.
I just want to see Chris Scott going through his antics in the coaching box and losing it with the umps etc....
Cats with Henderson down back as the chief tall defender dont impress me either, Harry will enjoy the size advantage...
It'll be tunnelling city against a Scott coached team, it was the twins major AFL skill, "body spoils" as they call them! :o
Manning Stewart up is an essential part of the "beating Geelong" playbook.
Expect some BS from the ducker and FIGJAM as well, especially if we get on top at any stage.
Look, I don't expect to win but I reckon we potentially match up OK versus this mob.
Always think Geelong are beatable. Good win the other night. Solid, workman-like but that was it. Lifted after a terrible first qtr. Essendon weren't great.
One thing we know is that we will always be in touch on the scoreboard. Just what we do somehow. So hopefully Geelong are a bit off on the day.
Manning Stewart up is an essential part of the "beating Geelong" playbook.
Expect some BS from the ducker and FIGJAM as well, especially if we get on top at any stage.
Look, I don't expect to win but I reckon we potentially match up OK versus this mob.
Best not to kick it high in Stewart's direction. Often the dumb things we do on poor days.
Manning Stewart up is an essential part of the "beating Geelong" playbook.
Expect some BS from the ducker and FIGJAM as well, especially if we get on top at any stage.
Look, I don't expect to win but I reckon we potentially match up OK versus this mob.
God, Selwood craps me, Danger not far behind....
And yet we beat them at the Cattery early last year?
And were smashing them for 3 quarters.....
That aint gonna happen again FB, not beyond the realms of possibility but very highly unlikely IMO.
That aint gonna happen again FB, not beyond the realms of possibility but very highly unlikely IMO.
1. We aren't playing them in Geelong.
2. They're entirely beatable if we bring it for more than 3 quarters...as other teams have done.
3. Clearly, we won't be favourites with the bookies.
1. We aren't playing them in Geelong.
2. They're entirely beatable if we bring it for more than 3 quarters...as other teams have done.
3. Clearly, we won't be favourites with the bookies.
My apologies, I was convinced it was at KP, its at the MCG. The G is a different proposition but as you say, we would need to bring our absolute best for 4 qtrs.
Ed to Selwood....he's done it before and gets right under his skin.
Any chance one of Carroll or Kemp get selected in the squad this week? Their VFL games sounded pretty good from what I read.
Williams comes back in.
My apologies, I was convinced it was at KP, its at the MCG. The G is a different proposition but as you say, we would need to bring our absolute best for 4 qtrs.
All good.
I think that last quarter resurgence against Freo might be the mental breakthrough our blokes needed...
It really was a terrific way to finish off the game.
How many here thought Freo were just going to waltz away with a 3-4 goal win at 3-4 time?
I did.
We played 2.5 good quarters against Freo, improve that to 3.5 qtrs. this week and we win.
TDK will be better for the Darcy beating.
Williams a big in and I reckon Martin is about to do something (he's bloody overdue).
Will Crippa be sidelined?
If so, I'd give Carroll a run.
Suggested Lineup
Newman Jones Plowman
Saad Weitering Williams
Walsh Curnow Newnes
SPS Casboult Silvagni
Betts McKay Martin
De Koning Dow Kennedy
I/C Fogarty (rotate throught the centre)
Williamson (rotate in the backline)
Owies (rotate in the forward line)
Stocker (rotate through the centre
Cottrell Medical sub (Don't be tempted to play debutantes as medical sub.....not fair)
Cripps out (inj) Williams in
Let the 'next gen' midfield* show what they have got against some experienced campaigners!! (*Do we forget Matt Kennedy is just 24 with only 53 games??)
All good.
I think that last quarter resurgence against Freo might be the mental breakthrough our blokes needed...
It really was a terrific way to finish off the game.
How many here thought Freo were just going to waltz away with a 3-4 goal win at 3-4 time?
I did.
We played 2.5 good quarters against Freo, improve that to 3.5 qtrs. this week and we win.
TDK will be better for the Darcy beating.
Williams a big in and I reckon Martin is about to do something (he's bloody overdue).
Will Crippa be sidelined?
If so, I'd give Carroll a run.
I gave up the ghost, Freo looked like they were going to run all over us so to keep the goalless in the last and kick a couple ourselves was very good in the context. I still reckon Dads Army are a different proposition, you never know though.
Suggested Lineup
Newman Jones Plowman
Saad Weitering Williams
Walsh Curnow Newnes
SPS Casboult Silvagni
Betts McKay Martin
De Koning Dow Kennedy
I/C Fogarty (rotate throught the centre)
Williamson (rotate in the backline)
Owies (rotate in the forward line)
Stocker (rotate through the centre
Cottrell Medical sub (Don't be tempted to play debutantes as medical sub.....not fair)
Cripps out (inj) Williams in
Let the 'next gen' midfield show what they have got against some experienced campaigners!!
No bad, like it TC.
Dangerfield starting to find top gear, Hawkins in AA form, Atkins is a real find, Rohan in career best form, balanced offence and defence, some quality ins with trades and kids. Matthew Scarlett can even get Henderson playing good footy.
Cats by 4 goals.
Dangerfield starting to find top gear, Hawkins in AA form, Atkins is a real find, Rohan in career best form, balanced offence and defence, some quality ins with trades and kids. Matthew Scarlett can even get Henderson playing good footy.
Cats by 4 goals.
Goes without saying, the Cats are very warm favourites. Rightly so.
But let's not forget the Jabbers are vastly overrated and lack proven quality across the park, in particular, in KPP spots at both ends of the ground.
4 goals in Q1, 4 goals in 3 quarters thereafter. Lamentable.
Who was manning big Tom? James Stewart. Says it all.
Danger - way past his best imo. see attachment.
Rohan? Still hot or cold. Clearly, does better when opposition are mindful of Cameron and Hawkins first and foremost.
Even with that bag of 5, still only just shading Betts for goal output. (ditto Owies).
Their back line is dinosaur like...we have the pace/smarts up front to exploit that, provided we're competitive out of the middle.
Martin is the one who needs to shine (but is he carrying something?)
ps anyone playing regularly as a forward should averaging at least a goal a game.
So Martin and JSOS need to step up imo.
JSOS's goal kicking has been abysmal (last game aside)
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tr-carlton-blues?year=2021&rt=TA&st=GO
Two Geelong players who will hurt us and who are under the radar are Smith and Menegola...both tall wingers, both get plenty of ball and kick goals. There will be plenty of hype over Selwood , Danger etc but those two every time I see Geelong are very prominent and we have a history of scouting poorly and not doing our homework on these B grade type players and getting burnt.
ps anyone playing regularly as a forward should averaging at least a goal a game.
So Martin and JSOS need to step up imo.
JSOS's goal kicking has been abysmal (last game aside)
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tr-carlton-blues?year=2021&rt=TA&st=GO
To his credit, he spent an hour before the game practicing kicking.
Martin had a very average game vs very average opposition in the likes of Tucker, Walker and Aish, 12 possies@67% isnt exactly tearing it up and he owes us a good game or three IMO.
For a player of his talent he just doesnt get enough of the ball and he needs to be out there with Jack Silvagni to practice his goal kicking routine. He is a good kick but has developed this habit of laying back on the kick and spraying it.
Not sure if he is injured or being coached wrongly but he is very frustrating as he is such a pleasant player to watch when he gets the footy but you only get a cameo most games of what he can really do. He could be the difference in winning 2-4 extra games a year and playing finals but at the other end of the spectrum you sometimes have to look hard to see if he still on the ground.
Martin had a very average game vs very average opposition in the likes of Tucker, Walker and Aish, 12 possies@67% isnt exactly tearing it up and he owes us a good game or three IMO.
For a player of his talent he just doesnt get enough of the ball and he needs to be out there with Jack Silvagni to practice his goal kicking routine. He is a good kick but has developed this habit of laying back on the kick and spraying it.
Not sure if he is injured or being coached wrongly but he is very frustrating as he is such a pleasant player to watch when he gets the footy but you only get a cameo most games of what he can really do. He could be the difference in winning 2-4 extra games a year and playing finals but at the other end of the spectrum you sometimes have to look hard to see if he still on the ground.
I reckon Martin and a lot of our blokes try and kick the leather off it and get right under it when they are not that far out. Eddie and maybe Owies do it well. Low, half post high is all you need to do.
Martin is horrible at that game facet ... gets too close and kicks high.
EB....Martin was good in maybe first or second quarter of the Adelaide game...can't remember which. Had multiple possessions, quite a few shots on goal and set up a few scoring shots. Then he completely disappeared.
Similarly against Freo, only a handful of possessions in the first half.
Very frustrating to watch especially when you see a guy like Silvagni, not blessed with the same pace or skills, but who runs himself ragged to chase, tackle, smother and get to contests. If Martin could replicate that sort of effort in games he'd be something pretty special. We must spend a fortune on tape and strapping on Martin too....looks like a racehorse the way he comes out each week.
He's not fit, and playing on one leg.
Martin has no depth in his kicking. In round 1 he was slotting them from 45 metres out. I think he has a muscle issue which is preventing him from doing a lot, and we have rushed him back in. For mine, I would be getting him focussed on strength and conditioning, because its his major flaw.
He's not fit, and playing on one leg.
Martin has no depth in his kicking. In round 1 he was slotting them from 45 metres out. I think he has a muscle issue which is preventing him from doing a lot, and we have rushed him back in. For mine, I would be getting him focussed on strength and conditioning, because its his major flaw.
He didn't play round 1 Thry. This didn't sound right to me so I checked (sorry).
He kicked 3 in rnd 2 v Coll:
goal 1 20-25m out 45 deg angle, played on and snapped with his left foot
goal 2 received from Fish on the run in the goal square and dribbled it through
goal 3 opposite pocket to goal 1, snapped from 20-25m out.
No 45m slots from those three.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlD9Abvy76k
I will say this, when he first came to us, I noted his kicking action as poetry (to me at least) and didn't miss, (kicked 4 on debut). It is a confidence and continuity thing ATM, it will come good, nothing to do with injury if you ask me.
He's not fit, and playing on one leg.
Yes, he's another one of those we have, playing injured.
Not sure what his problem is, but he's clearly not kicking the ball like he could previously, lots of taping on those legs is a tell.
Yes, he's another one of those we have, playing injured.
Not sure what his problem is, but he's clearly not kicking the ball like he could previously, lots of taping on those legs is a tell.
I noticed it in the 1st quarter 2 weeks ago. He was hobbling despite not having any obvious contact.....the game had just started!
If he is on 1 leg, and that stops him from using his weapons, speed, agility, kicking......then why are we playing him?
He didn't play round 1 Thry. This didn't sound right to me so I checked (sorry).
He kicked 3 in rnd 2 v Coll:
goal 1 20-25m out 45 deg angle, played on and snapped with his left foot
goal 2 received from Fish on the run in the goal square and dribbled it through
goal 3 opposite pocket to goal 1, snapped from 20-25m out.
No 45m slots from those three.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlD9Abvy76k
I will say this, when he first came to us, I noted his kicking action as poetry (to me at least) and didn't miss, (kicked 4 on debut). It is a confidence and continuity thing ATM, it will come good, nothing to do with injury if you ask me.
was thinking last year round 1. We rushed him back for indigenous round.
Id wager calf issues but yeah I've got this years details wrong.
was thinking last year round 1. We rushed him back for indigenous round.
Id wager calf issues but yeah I've got this years details wrong.
No probs mate, agree though last year early he was a dead eye dick in front of goal.
He's not fit, and playing on one leg.
Martin has no depth in his kicking. In round 1 he was slotting them from 45 metres out. I think he has a muscle issue which is preventing him from doing a lot, and we have rushed him back in. For mine, I would be getting him focussed on strength and conditioning, because its his major flaw.
Jack has lost his leap and the lateral step that was giving him space and time.
I’m not sure why he’s playing - he probably wants to play - but it would be best for him and the club if the focus was on getting him fit for next season.
If he is on 1 leg, and that stops him from using his weapons, speed, agility, kicking......then why are we playing him?
We don't know what the injury is, how much of it is physical and how much is mental / confidence, players limp for all sorts of reasons and injury is just one of them, some are playing possum, others looking for an excuse.
It might not be as bad as we think, because when he gets on a roll he certainly looks more spritely.
If he is on 1 leg, and that stops him from using his weapons, speed, agility, kicking......then why are we playing him?
It’s the usual presumption, Martin will attract a certain level of opposition attention, regardless of how many legs he’s got, same theory is keeping Cripps out there.
They’ll still do some good team stuff and take an opponent (or two) leaving 2nd tier players with lesser opponents.
I don’t think we have seen our 2nd tier guys stand up enough, generally…
I presume Williams will be straight back in.
I'm not so negative about this guy, I get that some people see the dollars and think he should be a messiah, but that is in my opinion an unrealistic perspective. He arrived at the club, surrounded by new team-mates and had some immediate influence, that is about all you can ask for in year one.
The point here is perhaps not that Williams is paid too much, or isn't performing to the level required by his remuneration, but that perhaps someone like Judd wasn't paid anywhere near enough! :o
The point here is perhaps not that Williams is paid too much, or isn't performing to the level required by his remuneration, but that perhaps someone like Judd wasn't paid anywhere near enough! :o
Nah I think we have overpaid for Williams. Not that it's his fault. He put himself in the market and the market (us) paid him well. I think if anything is to be learnt from this it's that, sure you can get 800k but there has to be some incentives in that contract.
800k is an elite player. Not what you play a player you are hoping is elite.
Hope we don't make the same mistake with someone like Cerra who is asking elite money and Fremantle will ask for elite player compensation. He well may well become that player, but he isn't that player yet.
Nah I think we have overpaid for Williams. Not that it's his fault. He put himself in the market and the market (us) paid him well. I think if anything is to be learnt from this it's that, sure you can get 800k but there has to be some incentives in that contract.
800k is an elite player. Not what you play a player you are hoping is elite.
Hope we don't make the same mistake with someone like Cerra who is asking elite money and Fremantle will ask for elite player compensation. He well may well become that player, but he isn't that player yet.
Good post..its not the players fault, we over paid for a half back flanker/unproven mid who was a known quantity in terms of fitness. Everyone knew his endurance game needed work and he missed a season with achillies issues...so how was he ever going to handle game after game of full on midfield running.
Doesnt appear he was fit from day 1 and its rumoured his achillies is still a major problem and like I suggested on another thread that Russell is expected to work miracles on a bloke who came with problems.
Its a recruiting fail not a fitness fail IMHO...
Nah I think we have overpaid for Williams. Not that it's his fault. He put himself in the market and the market (us) paid him well. I think if anything is to be learnt from this it's that, sure you can get 800k but there has to be some incentives in that contract.
800k is an elite player. Not what you play a player you are hoping is elite.
Hope we don't make the same mistake with someone like Cerra who is asking elite money and Fremantle will ask for elite player compensation. He well may well become that player, but he isn't that player yet.
Business 101: Don't pay for potential
Nah I think we have overpaid for Williams. Not that it's his fault. He put himself in the market and the market (us) paid him well. I think if anything is to be learnt from this it's that, sure you can get 800k but there has to be some incentives in that contract.
800k is an elite player. Not what you play a player you are hoping is elite.
Hope we don't make the same mistake with someone like Cerra who is asking elite money and Fremantle will ask for elite player compensation. He well may well become that player, but he isn't that player yet.
....if 800k is actually the figure.
....and if whatever figure it actually is, hasn't already been heavily incentivised.
Everytime I read figures like that I think that's max amount. Take out bonuses for AA, top 3 (5 or 10) in the b+f, finals bonuses etc etc etc and he may only get 500k.
Not to mention we seem to have a front loading or rear loading magic number of between 750 to 900k.
That gets extended out to each year of contract in all circumstances but I can't see how we got Williams if this were the case with mcgovern, Martin and now Williams. Saad apparently is on 700k a season too. Can't be right. 10 million wouldn't cover most of our contracts if it were the case.
The media always quote exaggerated and extreme figures, some people just want it to be true!
....if 800k is actually the figure.
....and if whatever figure it actually is, hasn't already been heavily incentivised.
Everytime I read figures like that I think that's max amount. Take out bonuses for AA, top 3 (5 or 10) in the b+f, finals bonuses etc etc etc and he may only get 500k.
Yeah it's hard to know for sure. The figured mentioned might be up to to 800k, and then via Chinese whisperers in the media you get he is on 800k.
However, it's been reported up to 900k via the Herald Sun.
I feel 800k is not far from the mark.
As I understand it, just like McGovern and Martin, Williams is front loaded and the media are happy to quote the front loaded figure, and what is more they quote the extreme high estimate of the front loaded figure.
Some of this of course comes from player agents who want to pump up their client and tout their wares, but that is bullcrap inflated figures as well.
So I suspect neither player is on anywhere near that on a per-annum basis.
As I understand it, just like McGovern and Martin, Williams is front loaded and the media are happy to quote the front loaded figure, and what is more they quote the extreme high estimate of the front loaded figure.
Some of this of course comes from player agents who want to pump up their client and tout their wares, but that is bullcrap inflated figures as well.
So I suspect neither player is on anywhere near that on a per-annum basis.
As detailed on Foxfooty.com.au in late October, the former Giant's deal is worth an average of $800,000 across six years, with incentives that could bring it up to $900,000 a season.3 Nov 2020....
Even forgetting the money you only give six year deals to superstars.....
Some 2020 Figures with CoVid cuts....
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/afl-rich-100-who-are-the-afls-highestearning-stars-see-the-players-ranked-51100/news-story/d6052138cb2be56ce41f2059386ef132
Joel Selwood is being rested this week Hope that means they are taking us a kittle lightly.
As an aside....who played on Michael Walters last week....was it Stocker or Saad or a bit of both? I wasn't taking notice but after the game realised Walters had only had about 10 touches and one goal.....he's having an ordinary year but not too many more dangerous players around than him. Whoever did that role should've got a mention.
We only lost an "on" this week....lol.
IN: Williams
OUT: Williamson
Joel Selwood is being rested this week Hope that means they are taking us a kittle lightly.
Very Cheeky and arrogant resting players, hope we knock them over.....Williamson very unlucky unless Cripps pulls out at the last minute.
As an aside....who played on Michael Walters last week....was it Stocker or Saad or a bit of both? I wasn't taking notice but after the game realised Walters had only had about 10 touches and one goal.....he's having an ordinary year but not too many more dangerous players around than him. Whoever did that role should've got a mention.
Stocker...Walters just looked lazy all day, rumour is he wants more midfield time ,doesnt like Longmuir and wants out.
Very Cheeky and arrogant resting players, hope we knock them over.....Williamson very unlucky unless Cripps pulls out at the last minute.
Emergencies:
Matthew Cottrell, Zac Fisher, Will Setterfield, Tom Williamson
Joel Selwood is being rested this week Hope that means they are taking us a little lightly.
That's about 10 less free kicks to the Cats, which should help.
We only lost an "on" this week....lol.
IN: Williams
OUT: Williamson
Willo is unlucky to miss out. Zac will have to put in a very good game to justify his selection.
I'm perplexed that Fisher and Setterfield are straight back in the mix after injury. Neither of them should be walk-up starts on pre-injury form. It must be frustrating for a couple of players in the twos.
Willo is unlucky to miss out. Zac will have to put in a very good game to justify his selection.
I'm perplexed that Fisher and Setterfield are straight back in the mix after injury. Neither of them should be walk-up starts on pre-injury form. It must be frustrating for a couple of players in the twos.
I would think that Setterfield will come in if Cripps doesn’t pull up. (If I see Cripps predominantly using his left foot, I’ll do a Terry Wallace!!)
That's about 10 less free kicks to the Cats, which should help.
Shaun Higgins should pick up that slack......usually gets them near goal too, they must be sponsored by NIDA at the Cattery.
The level of acting is of academy award proportions...
EB.....Longmuir denied the rift in the paper here today.....but his form has been ordinary all year so something's not right. Walters wants to play in the middle but Longmuir committed to younger blokes like Brayshaw, Cerra, Serong etc....and then Fyfe/Mundy as well....
Willo is unlucky to miss out. Zac will have to put in a very good game to justify his selection.
I'm perplexed that Fisher and Setterfield are straight back in the mix after injury. Neither of them should be walk-up starts on pre-injury form. It must be frustrating for a couple of players in the twos.
They're emergencies.
EB.....Longmuir denied the rift in the paper here today.....but his form has been ordinary all year so something's not right. Walters wants to play in the middle but Longmuir committed to younger blokes like Brayshaw, Cerra, Serong etc....and then Fyfe/Mundy as well....
Something is wrong Surfie, Walters is a very good footballer but played like he was in a purple haze, not sure why Longmuir didnt give him a run in the middle when they were struggling.
Could see him at another club if it continues...
Shaun Higgins should pick up that slack......usually gets them near goal too, they must be sponsored by NIDA at the Cattery.
The level of acting is of academy award proportions...
If they're not performing in the contest, we'll certainly see them directing the umpiring 😁
Something is wrong Surfie, Walters is a very good footballer but played like he was in a purple haze, not sure why Longmuir didnt give him a run in the middle when they were struggling.
Could see him at another club if it continues...
Won't run both ways, so he is exposed under the current rules.
They're emergencies.
Yes and one could replace Cripps and one could be the medical sub. Being named in the 26 should be a reward for form and effort and, if that was the case, Honey and Kemp would be named before Setterfield and Fisher.
Despite the outs for them, I give us little chance, Geel by 24-30.
Willo is unlucky to miss out. Zac will have to put in a very good game to justify his selection.
I'm perplexed that Fisher and Setterfield are straight back in the mix after injury. Neither of them should be walk-up starts on pre-injury form. It must be frustrating for a couple of players in the twos.
I think its more about the opposition we are facing and what we might need in the team.
I think its more about the opposition we are facing and what we might need in the team.
In that case Willo would stay in the team and Williams would come in for Martin. Cottrell, Martin, Honey and Kemp would be the emergencies.
Cannot and will not win this game.
I can't see it either. All but a small faint hope
I give us some hope, Geelong are very cocky and resting a couple of senior players because they think they are that good.
Got a carp ruckman in Stanley, dont have a real tall defender unless Blicavs play down there so Harry should be in play a bit and Danger only turns up when he feels he has to. Got some very decent forwards but Weitering can match Hawkins and Rohan is very hit and miss. Obviously if those two get enough ball it will be over as they dont miss but if we can control the midfield we can limit their entries and provide our own forwards with more supply. Its going to require great defensive effort from our forwards as well given they are a strong intercept team with players like Stewart, The traitor Henderson and Henry who take a lot of marks from poor entries. Expect OConnor and Guthrie to tag Cripps, Walsh so a few other mids will need to be on their game to pick up the slack.
Danger players IMO as I said before are Smith and Menegola on the wings who play well every week and we dont need two bananas picking them up who want to play wide and not man up their opponents..
I give us some hope, Geelong are very cocky and resting a couple of senior players because they think they are that good.
Got a carp ruckman in Stanley, dont have a real tall defender unless Blicavs play down there so Harry should be in play a bit and Danger only turns up when he feels he has to. Got some very decent forwards but Weitering can match Hawkins and Rohan is very hit and miss. Obviously if those two get enough ball it will be over as they dont miss but if we can control the midfield we can limit their entries and provide our own forwards with more supply. Its going to require great defensive effort from our forwards as well given they are a strong intercept team with players like Stewart, The traitor Henderson and Henry who take a lot of marks from poor entries. Expect OConnor and Guthrie to tag Cripps, Walsh so a few other mids will need to be on their game to pick up the slack.
Danger players IMO as I said before are Smith and Menegola on the wings who play well every week and we dont need two bananas picking them up who want to play wide and not man up their opponents..
I would think Cripps wont play.
I give us some hope, Geelong are very cocky and resting a couple of senior players because they think they are that good.
Got a carp ruckman in Stanley, dont have a real tall defender unless Blicavs play down there so Harry should be in play a bit and Danger only turns up when he feels he has to. Got some very decent forwards but Weitering can match Hawkins and Rohan is very hit and miss. Obviously if those two get enough ball it will be over as they dont miss but if we can control the midfield we can limit their entries and provide our own forwards with more supply. Its going to require great defensive effort from our forwards as well given they are a strong intercept team with players like Stewart, The traitor Henderson and Henry who take a lot of marks from poor entries. Expect OConnor and Guthrie to tag Cripps, Walsh so a few other mids will need to be on their game to pick up the slack.
Danger players IMO as I said before are Smith and Menegola on the wings who play well every week and we dont need two bananas picking them up who want to play wide and not man up their opponents..
Is play curnow on menagola and take him out of the game. Underrated player imo.
Is play curnow on menagola and take him out of the game. Underrated player imo.
Yep.
Curnow should not be in the 22 unless he is given a tagging role.
we will know in the first 2 mins of the game if we are in with a shot of winning. start well and we are in with a big chance.
Haven't beat a side in the current top 10.
Casboult and Jones late outs.
Setterfield, Williamson in.
Jones out will test the team defense!
Just hope our game doesn't follow the trend of this round. Thrashings. No. I don't think we have a hope in hell of thrashing the cats.
Casboult and Jones late outs.
Setterfield, Williamson in.
That doesn’t help 🙄
Who helps young DeKonig?
He'll compete with Stanley, Ratugolea, and Hawkins at different times.
Jones out is a real bugger. Despite the odd brain fade, he and Weitering are among the best KB combos in the comp IMO. That's a real bonus for the Cats. Rohan and Hawkins must be licking their chops. Rhys Stanley may also spend more time forward.
Casboult and Jones late outs.
Setterfield, Williamson in.
We are toying with them, clearly we dont rate Geel and will win easy.
Jones out will test the team defense!
Now the screwtard decision to delist every other tall defender we had comes back to bite us.
Now the screwtard decision to delist every other tall defender we had comes back to bite us.
Always just a matter of time. Very poor management.
Cats are very tall. What's the weather like?
Cats are very tall. What's the weather like?
Suns out, perfect Melb weather
Our chances of winning rely on the Fox effect!
Go Blues. We've got nothing to lose.
Just as well they've lost Cameron!!
Can we get Hendo to play a half from them and half for us?
Our chances of winning rely on the Fox effect!
Go Blues. We've got nothing to lose.
Whats the Fox effect?
Now the screwtard decision to delist every other tall defender we had comes back to bite us.
Which ones? The unproven never tested ones? Having all of Oscar Macdonald, Jones, Levi, marchbank and pittonet at the same time you just can't plan for.
Which ones? The unproven never tested ones? Having all of Oscar Macdonald, Jones, Levi, marchbank and pittonet at the same time you just can't plan for.
We should have taken a taller defender type in the mid season draft given we were always going to be short on resources in that area and flirting with fate. Boyd was a ridiculous selection IMHO given how many smaller types we have on the list.
Hindsight is amazingly accurate.