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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Thryleon on
who Melbourne or Geelong?  Had Cameron kicked like last week Geelong would have won.


What Melbourne didn't do is attack the ball carrier leaving players free in defensive 50.  They worked backwards to cover options which artificially creates panic and makes players kick longer to a contest.

We didn't change this against Geelong until it was far too late, and paid dearly for it.
Lever and May will just gobble up our bombs into the fwd line.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: Mantis on
Watching Melbourne against Geelong was an almost better side than when they won the last flag. Hard to find a weak link. If our pressure is just slightly off for a short period and if we continue to bomb long expecting talls to take a mark by chance, we will be given a lesson in how to lose another match.
who Melbourne or Geelong?  Had Cameron kicked like last week Geelong would have won.


What Melbourne didn't do is attack the ball carrier leaving players free in defensive 50.  They worked backwards to cover options which artificially creates panic and makes players kick longer to a contest.

We didn't change this against Geelong until it was far too late, and paid dearly for it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
He gave away 2 or 3 frees for holding plain and simple, his opponents had him bluffed. Not a defenders a-hole.
I called out Walsh immediately and will continue to.

Those frees were garbage.  He gave them away...


Let me kill that argument slightly.

Elliott engages his opponent to push off and create separation. They grab each other. Ump sees it pays a free kick. Watch every single duel and tell me that they aren't all identical.  I watched Rhys Stanley do similar to Max gawn (and arguably worse) and it was play on. 

The subjective nature here is what the problem is.  They ping Williams twice and then don't pay another free like it until mason Cox gets a bit of the same.

That equated to about 3 goals.  There was also the cripps handball paid holding the ball and then the jack crisp "drop" handball that was paid play on.

These things are a frequent occurrence, and I don't really debate the action I debate the consistency.   It's a free in our defensive 50 but you won't find a similar free for essentially the same action in our forward 50.  Why? 

The blocks that occur that take walsh off daicos and at other times cowan off Elliott.

They're not illegal.   Their blokes get on the bike and run around others who are there to hold illegally but no one cares about those holds. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: LP on
Williams coped two umpiring clangers early and fans spent the next four quarters blaming him for everything, he wasn't that bad.

Walsh left Daicos free unchecked in F50 in the critical game ending final moment, and fans are silent!
He gave away 2 or 3 frees for holding plain and simple, his opponents had him bluffed. Not a defenders a-hole.
I called out Walsh immediately and will continue to.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by PaulP -
What Zac Williams needs more than anything is some luck and the BOD. No doubt his career to date at Carlton has been a little underwhelming, but that's not surprising, given the significant professional and personal setbacks he's dealt with. It's hard enough firing on all cylinders in an elite performance environment when things are going your way.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Professer E on
I don't expect to win but I expect a lot of improvement in work rate, selection, and on field  set up.  A case of "how we play" (process) moreso than the results.
To be fair Prof, we did a lot well vs the Filth considering the limited I50s and only lost by 6 points as a result of a brain fade  at a stoppage.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
For a bloke who is meant to be an aerobic beast, he doesn't get on his bike much in an attempt to run his opponent ragged (or lay a tackle heaven forebid).

He is still an aerobic beast.

Difference is he is 100kg or whatever he is.

It's the starting, stopping, changing direction that sucks up energy.

Get him on a long distance run and he'll go all day. He's like a truck on the highway, get him up to speed and he can cruise all day. Change his cruising speed and it takes a lot of time and energy to get back up to speed.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Mantis on
I lived in a house of serious domestic violence for 22 years. I would love to tell people what I experienced but some might not want to hear the reality of what takes place. How it has a long term effect on children. I am happy to tell the story if people want to hear it first hand. How it was resolved after a further 25 years later.
I am sorry for what you had to experience Mantis. I personally think stories need to be told (as horrific as they might be) so people who live in a sheltered world (like me) can be horrified into understanding domestic violence and help in eradicating it.