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Bad kicking is bad football.  We continually put teamates under pressure, by playing uncomposed footy.  That was to simply get rid of it, rather than play the percentages.  Result, we turned it over a lot, and I would estimate that the Saints generated 80% of their scoring from turnovers be it forced by pressure, or unforced and just loose kicking into dangerous areas.

We played as poor a game as we have all season, and the result was that we kicked ourselves out of it, more than Saint Kilda beat us.  If we play that match 10 times over, I doubt we would lose it again.  Its a false negative.  St. Kilda played about as well as they could have hoped for, but in reality, they relied on us giving them back the ball a lot. 

Unfortunately, we accomodated. 

Cerra wasnt just rusty, he wasnt ready and shouldnt have played.  Was a bonafide witches hat.

I agree Baggers.

The other element was that the Saints never really gave up their pressure - it almost looked like we relaxed a couple couple of times when we were in front, allowing the Saints to score again and stay in the game.

Have we changed our game a bit to have more players in defense when the ball is there to compensate for injured personnel?  If so, that shift would affect play up the ground when we get the ball?

Gee, there has been some absolute rubbish written on Carlton fan pages and forums since the loss. The trolls are out in force.  A lot of them are obviously not Carlton folk. I'm not talking about here. We seem to be a fairly stable group (that may bite us in the bum long term as we need some fresh blood). But the big point of difference is that even when we're  a bit critical or disagree we put forward arguments to support our point of view. Sorry for the rant but what set me off was some goose on a Facebook site reckoned we should trade Hewett because he's not damaging. Moral of the story is... never let a mug upset you.😉😁

Gee, there has been some absolute rubbish written on Carlton fan pages and forums since the loss. The trolls are out in force.  A lot of them are obviously not Carlton folk. I'm not talking about here. We seem to be a fairly stable group (that may bite us in the bum long term as we need some fresh blood). But the big point of difference is that even when we're  a bit critical or disagree we put forward arguments to support our point of view. Sorry for the rant but what set me off was some goose on a Facebook site reckoned we should trade Hewett because he's not damaging. Moral of the story is... never let a mug upset you.😉😁

Here's a tip for free, stay away from Facebook footy pages. They are utter puss, every last one of them.

Obviously haven't watched the replay but how often was Cerra in the middle? Looked to me at the ground he was playing wing.

Why though, ................. probably because he wasn't 100% right to go!
 
I think Cerra's selection last week is the first rookie mistake I think I can identify from the Voss crew this season, let's hope they learn!

Cerra's only young still, he probably still has ambitions beyond his ability, that usually extends to players thinking they can limp through a match and still have an impact on the outcome.

I think we missed Owies work rate terribly, and that caused some of the others who have been good this season like Durdin, LoB and Fisher to be overloaded and fall short of expectations. Fans underestimate the impact of the 24x7 stuff they don't take any notice of, it's unglamorous and doesn't make the highlight reels, and fans overestimate the impact of the spectacular stuff that happens for 1 second in a 2hr match because it is replayed endlessly!

For example, and I mentioned this after his first game as well, Motlop's highlights do not make up for the rest of the time he is basically spectating. He'd have to do 10x as much spectacular stuff just to break even!

Why though, ................. probably because he wasn't 100% right to go!
 
I think Cerra's selection last week is the first rookie mistake I think I can identify from the Voss crew this season, let's hope they learn!

Cerra's only young still, he probably still has ambitions beyond his ability, that usually extends to players thinking they can limp through a match and still have an impact on the outcome.

I think we missed Owies work rate terribly, and that caused some of the others who have been good this season like Durdin, LoB and Fisher to be overloaded and fall short of expectations. Fans underestimate the impact of the 24x7 stuff they don't take any notice of, it's unglamorous and doesn't make the highlight reels, and fans overestimate the impact of the spectacular stuff that happens for 1 second in a 2hr match because it is replayed endlessly!

For example, and I mentioned this after his first game as well, Motlop's highlights do not make up for the rest of the time he is basically spectating. He'd have to do 10x as much spectacular stuff just to break even!

Good call on Owies, without him part as part of the trinity  with Durdin and Fisher we dont function as well down forward when he his missing IMO. He isnt a big possie winner but he provides plenty of pressure keeping the ball inside50 and being a leadup type forward he seems to drag players away from our main forwards and we look less congested.
Motlop is more of a crumber who can kick the freaky goal and he was good vs the Saints but I'll be glad to see Owies back in he team and Motlop can come off the bench, he reminds me a bit of Troy Bond.

I had Motlop as our one winner on the day.

He ran hard, and pressured hard too.  Kicked 3.1.  Surprised to only see 1 tackle registered to his name, but I guess it only counts a completed tackle on the stats sheet, because I saw him lay 3 tackles in on sequence with little reward given the Saints were able to get out of trouble because he was one of the lone hands pressuring multiple opponents.

FWIW, Shaun Higgins, and Dan Butler had very similar stats and both ended up with 2 goals 1 each and only registered a tackle each, but they also were quite menacing with their pressure.

Anyway, I could pick a handful of players who made pivotal issues on the day.

I thought Young did the job on King who kicked a couple of junk goals only and was another winner for us.
See my thoughts on Motlop in my other post, no doubting his talent he just needs more games and education for when he doesnt have the ball and when his opponents do, I thought Stkilda ran the ball out of defense a bit too easy which was a group issue rather than Motlop specifically but as I suggested I think Owies gives us a point of difference in that area.

See my thoughts on Motlop in my other post, no doubting his talent he just needs more games and education for when he doesnt have the ball and when his opponents do,