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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Lods -
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Yes, more coach churn is definitely the answer.

Paul im as change averse as anyone, but sometimes you have to acknowledge when your coach just doesnt have us on the right trajectory.

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The Swans rammed home 12 goals to four, with the 75 points scored making it the equal third-greatest quarter in terms of points since 1999. It was the AFL's highest-scoring quarter since round six, 2011.

We have had a fairly solid upheaval, but we were without an answer to that and its just not good enough for even the worst side in the AFL.

He has time to fix it, but if you had 10 factors to weigh up when making considerations of Voss future this is one of them.

Like MBB says, lose to Richmond and Voss is well and truly in the gun.

One of the things that is really hurting him is these ridiculous runs other sides get on, often when we've fought hard to get to a comfortable lead.
Sitting back as supporters we get four or five goals in front but it's become almost an expectation that the other side will get a run on and swamp us.
The problem is it's not a new problem and even changing a third of the side has had no effect in overcoming it.

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Robert Heatley Stand / AFL Rd 1 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by crashlander -
I hate Thursday night football. Not only can't I get to it often enough to matter, but we lose the vast majority of the games. I can think of only one game that we've won that I haven't got to, and only a couple of wins in the few that I could get to.

Then there was last night, where we appear to have improved in no way. We ran out of gas. Our initial strategies might have been OK, but we don't react to changes in the game. Our disposal to our forwards was questionable. Our match-ups didn't work. We didn't stop the opposition play makers from having an influence.
When Sydney got on top in the middle, we were dead meat.

So, what can we do about it?
Well, Richmond are no Sydney, so hopefully we can find something. If we lose this one, we are in serious trouble.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by LP -
If you go back and watch the replay, you'll find Swans dobbing goals from on or outside the F50 arc, that's a night out and they were on a high.

In contrast we spent most of the first half working into a similar range and failed to score at all, so as I see it the problem wasn't the 3rd quarter, it was the non-scoring first half.

Even BigH refused to pull the trigger on shots from 50m and he can easily cover that distance, Gov ran through CHF and put the footy to the top of the square, we looked indecisive and hesitant, that's a headspace issue not a lack of capability.

Do we have a player who can kick out to the F50 arc, and be running past to receive a handball a split second later before the mark is even set? Because what Gulden did is going to be the new tactic under the current stand rule. A slow kick to advantage, then run your guts out to receive knowing the opposition can't approach that zone without giving away a 50m penalty. By midway through this season every club with runners capable of kicking from FB will be doing this, and to those of us exposed to Gaelic Footy it will seem familiar.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: PaulP – on
Yes, more coach churn is definitely the answer.

Paul im as change averse as anyone, but sometimes you have to acknowledge when your coach just doesnt have us on the right trajectory.

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The Swans rammed home 12 goals to four, with the 75 points scored making it the equal third-greatest quarter in terms of points since 1999. It was the AFL's highest-scoring quarter since round six, 2011.

We have had a fairly solid upheaval, but we were without an answer to that and its just not good enough for even the worst side in the AFL.

He has time to fix it, but if you had 10 factors to weigh up when making considerations of Voss future this is one of them.

Like MBB says, lose to Richmond and Voss is well and truly in the gun.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Lods – on
There were rumours around last year that some players were glad to see the back of Curnow. They gave it to him during the game but all the 'key' players seemed to have no issue having a hug, and a handshake, and a grin after the game.
Charlie seemed a little emotional.
I'm not sure Charlie's issues were with the playing group so much as with other areas of the club.
I understand that perspective, but the surrounding abhorrent commentary is completely disconnected from reality, win or lose it is ruining the game!

I think part of the problem is that the commentary team, due to the nepotistic nature, is bored with the athleticism and physicality, because as old boys they have done it as a job for years and years for it to become ho hum. So they focus on what titillates them, the bitch laps, the social burns and the emotions, crap most of the public do not give a rat's clacker about. I suspect most of the commentary crew would prefer to watch an episode of MAFS than watch and attend another game of footy!

Gulden tore us a new one and barely a comment about it today, most of the media focusses on Charlie throwing Cripps to the ground, Florent not shaking hands and allegations of spiteful behaviour.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 In game Angst Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by LP -
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The FOX crew were extremely annoying; i.e. they never seemed to shut up.  If one of them paused to take a breath, another one jumped in without delay.
Yet far superior to seven, which is why even when it's FTA I usually watch Kayo.

My biggest problem with the current media setups, is that the commentary doesn't match the game play. They cherry-pick moments and build a fantasy around it, I wish they would just shut the feck up and call the game as it really happens!

AS I mentioned in another thread, if you watch the game in silence it's like watching a different event. If you don't believe this then watch the replay with sound on, you'll be astounded at some of the bizarre live to air conclusions and issues they make. You can't do the reverse, watch the reply in silence, because you've already heard the words and they stick in your conscious perception.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: LP – on
Fans focus on the wrong things.

The problem wasn't really the third quarter at all, the 3rd was inevitable given the wasted efforts of the first half. We were dominant in the first half but unable to score, it's demoralising and leaves the opposition cherry ripe to overrun our team. This is a story that repeats itself.

I've mentioned before, if we do not see a significant change in game style, if our tactics barely change despite significant list changes, it's a big negative because we are exposed as obviously formulaic. Everybody knows what we do, and plan for it accordingly, we bring little innovation.

As for the beat up around the game in the media, you can see that for yourself, and even in the broadcast when the special commentary went on about our players "gobbing off" at Curnow, then after the game Curnow tells the reporters he received the silent treatment from our squad. How do they twist this onto us, today they report we were full of spite and lost focus, is the media calling Curnow a liar? Also note the beat up about Florent and Mills, then post-game they take a selfie together! My advice to fans is to watch the game carefully and look for yourself, do not be influenced by the noise and spin that is basically designed to prey on your emotions. If you feel you cannot disconnect from the commentary, turn off the volume and you will experience a completely different game!

There were rumours around last year that some players were glad to see the back of Curnow. They gave it to him during the game but all the 'key' players seemed to have no issue having a hug, and a handshake, and a grin after the game.
Charlie seemed a little emotional.
I'm not sure Charlie's issues were with the playing group so much as with other areas of the club.