Rubbish, we have turned over the list equal to or more than any other club in the competition, it's just a bogus claim that the list is the common factor!
The fate of our club doesn't begin and end with two or three, and those seniors as you call them, Simpson, Judd, Gibbs as three of them were among our best last night!
Geez I hate to see where we end up when Simmo and Judd retire!
They may have been among our best but their best obviously falls a looong way short of what is needed. We may have turned the list over but we didn't turn over the leadership/senior players. That's where we need to be focused.
WRONG! Premiership faves in 2012, one kick from a prelim in 2011.
Wouldabeen coodabeens. I never thought we looked like actually winning the flag. May have played some entertaining footy at times, but I saw heroic losers at best.
They are playing exactly the way they are coached, the problem is the way they are coached to play is mostly irrelevant to modern football and also doesn't suit our list!
Go back and watch the first few minutes of the 3rd term, you see a wide shot of the ground as we try to take the ball into F50. While we struggle to pick it up and use the ball on the fence line, three or four Wet Toaster's flood back across the outer wing and are standing spread across our CHF line waiting for us to bomb the ball. There is probably two or three of them for every Carlton forward!
We take the slow road to China every time, building compounds as we go, and when we get there we keep finding an army waiting at the border! It's fecking obvious!
FMD, the ancient Greeks knew the shortest way across a circle is through the centre. Our blokes look tired because the game plan requires them to run 50% more than their opponents. 30 seconds taking it around the boundary, 5 seconds watching it go back through the middle!
Finally the post match press conference, Malthouse struggles to recall even two or three names from the team he has coached for multiple seasons, do you lot need a clearer indicator it's over for him as a match day coach?
This is typical of the ageing process, stress causes an ever reducing number of neurons to misfire and people make bad or stupid decisions, they look confused and struggle to recall basic details after the fact!
It doesn't mean he isn't capable as a head coach or director of coaching, but he cannot match day coach, he looks confused and disorientated at times!
We haven't really looked like premiership material in the reign of 3 coaches and probably as many popes. The common denominator being the playing list, at least it's senior members.
On last night's performance the removal of Robbo, Garlett, Betts and Waite only served to demonstrate one thing - we didn't remove enough of the so called senior players and leaders. That is where our problems are together with the coaching group that can't get through to them and isn't being listened to.
The off field has improved. ..the on field will.take time.. agree cookie
I think the club needs to more honest with us MF. It needs to explain exactly what the plans are. The Saints is open and honest about the fact it is rebuilding. Hopefully CFC may well be doing the same but I for one am not sure what the strategy is. It's pretty plain to most that the present list isn't the answer but we can only surmise e.g. SOS's appointment is a fair pointer to a rebuild. On the other hand the recruitment of guys like Tutt and Jones would seem contrary to that idea.
The onfield exploits of this club are only a reflection of what has/is going on off-field. I can only hope that we are indeed taking steps to rectify those issues but that won't happen overnight. In the meantime we are probably in for a lot more of the pain we suffered again tonight and over an extended period.
No more patching up CFC, we need to look at rebuilding this club properly, even if it takes a few years. At least it would make the pain easier to bear if we knew we were systematically following a sound strategy and plan, rather than trying to paper over rapidly widening cracks.
I don't think MM would want to hang around anyway for a wooden spoon. I reckon if he believed that was going to happen he'd resign, and well in advance.
We are rock bottom after that display. the CFC is officially in crisis - or should be. Our guys are so mentally fragile now I'd be surprised if we won a game this year, indeed to paraphrase "I can't see us winning a game all year!"
We definitely look a lot worse than last year in terms of poor spirit and susceptibility to capitulation. We just look mentally shot, and I mean totally.
We are looking into the abyss without doubt. MM gorn (probably fairly soon) and a cleanout of senior players to occur, followed by years of rebuilding. I've just about had enough and probably won't be going to too many games now for a while.
We are a very low skilled footy team I'm afraid. Error riddled quarter where our forwards hardly caught sight of the ball. I think we've run out of legs already, don't fancy us much in the second half.