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Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #90
Interesting “Access All Areas” on the AFL website today. Examines and compares 6 “holding the ball” scenarios that ALL went against Carlton. The only consistency was ruling against the Blues. Better not watch it Baggers because it will make your blood boil.
Here's my point of view on yesterday's game, despite the terrible umpiring against us, I was a lot more calm during and after the game compared to the Haw game the week before. We took it right up to a contender and if not for a poor 10-15mins, we would have won.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #91
With all these blokes going forward we won't have many left in the Midfield/backline. ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

But you know, if we ever reach the stage  where the seasons done and dusted for us, and if we had a tall back-up defender I wouldn't mind seeing Jones switched to the forward line for a bit of an experiment.
The reasoning is... we could do with a tall swingman who could play both ends.
We struggle with responses at the moment when the opposition gets a run on.
We need to develop a few tricks of our own

You would know in a game or two whether Jones has learnt a bit playing on some of the competitions best forwards.
His marking on the weekend was strong ...and we finally have a few small forwards who might be able to make something of the chaos he sometimes creates.

It may be that he proves to be as ineffective as his previous stints forward but if we've nothing  to lose give it a go.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #92
With all these blokes going forward we won't have many left in the Midfield/backline. ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

But you know, if we ever reach the stage  where the seasons done and dusted for us, and if we had a tall back-up defender I wouldn't mind seeing Jones switched to the forward line for a bit of an experiment.
The reasoning is... we could do with a tall swingman who could play both ends.
We struggle with responses at the moment when the opposition gets a run on.
We need to develop a few tricks of our own

You would know in a game or two whether Jones has learnt a bit playing on some of the competitions best forwards.
His marking on the weekend was strong ...and we finally have a few small forwards who might be able to make something of the chaos he sometimes creates.

It may be that he proves to be as ineffective as his previous stints forward but if we've nothing  to lose give it a go.
The season is over, we would need to win 5 of the next 7 plus other results go our way, aint gonna happen so experiment away I say.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #93
With all these blokes going forward we won't have many left in the Midfield/backline. ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

But you know, if we ever reach the stage  where the seasons done and dusted for us, and if we had a tall back-up defender I wouldn't mind seeing Jones switched to the forward line for a bit of an experiment.
The reasoning is... we could do with a tall swingman who could play both ends.
We struggle with responses at the moment when the opposition gets a run on.
We need to develop a few tricks of our own

You would know in a game or two whether Jones has learnt a bit playing on some of the competitions best forwards.
His marking on the weekend was strong ...and we finally have a few small forwards who might be able to make something of the chaos he sometimes creates.

It may be that he proves to be as ineffective as his previous stints forward but if we've nothing  to lose give it a go.
As for Jones going fwd, I dont think effort, endeavour or marking the thing will be a problem, I think his kicking for goal would be a problem
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #94
As for Jones going fwd, I dont think effort, endeavour or marking the thing will be a problem, I think his kicking for goal would be a problem

You may be right...I'm probably thinking more about the opportunities he could create for players like Betts, Fisher and Martin.
And going ahead you would see it more a 'switch' role.
Something you would try mid-game if you needed to shake things up.
He's not SOS....but it was a tactic we used to try with Silvagni at times, often with success.
McGovern v Jones...I'm not sure we'd lose a lot.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #95
With all these blokes going forward we won't have many left in the Midfield/backline. ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

But you know, if we ever reach the stage  where the seasons done and dusted for us, and if we had a tall back-up defender I wouldn't mind seeing Jones switched to the forward line for a bit of an experiment.
The reasoning is... we could do with a tall swingman who could play both ends.
We struggle with responses at the moment when the opposition gets a run on.
We need to develop a few tricks of our own

You would know in a game or two whether Jones has learnt a bit playing on some of the competitions best forwards.
His marking on the weekend was strong ...and we finally have a few small forwards who might be able to make something of the chaos he sometimes creates.

It may be that he proves to be as ineffective as his previous stints forward but if we've nothing  to lose give it a go.
I subscribe to the "if it aint broke dont fix it" with Jones, dont want to play him forward then he loses it and goes back to the old flaky Jones.
Your swingman is Kemp....great mark and nice kick...

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #96
You may be right...I'm probably thinking more about the opportunities he could create for players like Betts, Fisher and Martin.
And going ahead you would see it more a 'switch' role.
Something you would try mid-game if you needed to shake things up.
He's not SOS....but it was a tactic we used to try with Silvagni at times, often with success.
McGovern v Jones...I'm not sure we'd lose a lot.
Fair call
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #97
Here's my point of view on yesterday's game, despite the terrible umpiring against us, I was a lot more calm during and after the game compared to the Haw game the week before. We took it right up to a contender and if not for a poor 10-15mins, we would have won.
I felt the same. Realised it was because we weren’t expected to win, yet Hawks game talked up all week that we would 🙄

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #98
Opposite for me.  I was extremely annoyed with our inability to be effectie last week but half expected it.

The West coast game felt very much like we were expected to play with one hand behind our back, and I couldn't help but think this isn't  fair contest and not because West coast were a better side.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #99
Opposite for me.  I was extremely annoyed with our inability to be effectie last week but half expected it.

The West coast game felt very much like we were expected to play with one hand behind our back, and I couldn't help but think this isn't  fair contest and not because West coast were a better side.
I agree about us getting a hard ride. It’s frustrating, we just want to watch an evenly officiated game.  The stats speak for themselves and we deserve an explanation.

How Curnows was deliberate, when he was up against the boundary and kicked 50m in and it then dribbled out, is just an illogical ridiculous call.

I can’t Believe umpires care who wins or try to help someone win, but something is not right with the way our games are officiated.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #100
Only problem is Danger hits the scoreboard, Cripps doesnt.
If he gets a few shots you hope he'd nail a couple at least. Throws the opposition out as he can take a good grab (although I wonder about his shoulder). We showed last year we played ok when Cripps was out so hope the rest of the mids stand up.

Just a thought.

Bet he's thinking that dropping weight wasn't such a great idea now.

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #101
If he gets a few shots you hope he'd nail a couple at least. Throws the opposition out as he can take a good grab (although I wonder about his shoulder). We showed last year we played ok when Cripps was out so hope the rest of the mids stand up.

Just a thought.

Bet he's thinking that dropping weight wasn't such a great idea now.

Agree. Reckon there'll be a bit more gym time for Crippa over the pre season... plus more of mama's home made pasta!
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #102
Agree. Reckon there'll be a bit more gym time for Crippa over the pre season... plus more of mama's home made pasta!
If its weight he needs to gain, I can train him in that area easily, this covid period has not been kind.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

 

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #103
If its weight he needs to gain, I can train him in that area easily, this covid period has not been kind.

 :))  :)) I know that feeling... I just thought my feet were shrinking (when I looked down). Sweets cupboard has been nailed shut... exercise routine increased.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #104
Interesting “Access All Areas” on the AFL website today. Examines and compares 6 “holding the ball” scenarios that ALL went against Carlton. The only consistency was ruling against the Blues. Better not watch it Baggers because it will make your blood boil.

They missed the one from Nic Nat, early, when he took the ball out of the ruck, tackled (free, i believe??), went to kick, missed his foot (def free!!).  i think in front of our goals